Xbox One: Details on Connectivity, Licensing (24 hour check-in) and Privacy Features

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I'm not used to it, you'd think I'd be by now
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If it makes anyone feel any better, my friends and his co-workers that upload vids up in the xbox market place aren't too thrilled about the xbone either.
 
Ishmae1 said:
Also, reading between the lines a bit, but if you can use cellular to authenticate, would that mean that smartglass can authenticate the box? So, if you're in range of any cell signal, the box could work for offline over 24 hours... although games that use the cloud wouldn't.
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I was curious about this idea as well.
 
And to think that, in the end, Adam Orth was just being honest.
I guess MS didn't like him showing the turd Xbone is without the pr-bs icing.

What I don't understand is that MS seemed to be going towards a world market, even having Xbox Live locally (like here in Brazil, quality and availabity issues aside). But then, they showed a device that catters a very specific consumer, even inside the USA and, on top of that, will simply not work in a lot of places on America itself.

Add to this the convoluted "you can´t borrow/lend/sale" unless and if we say so, you got to figure what MS is thinking.

p.s. Holy shit at the flowchart. Congrat's Cheesemeister. Now try to explain that to a tired mom/dad in a crowed shop around Xmas in less than 10 minutes.
 
Pubic opinion on Xbone turned 185 degrees today here in Slovenia, where X360 was quite popular due to easy modding. Just waiting for some big media outlets to pick up this story about MS policies.
 
Pennywise said:
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Welp
If this is true, it's gonna be one hell of a show :D
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This can't be a joke right? CVG has to believe this at least a bit right? I'm beginning to feel a bit relieved.
 
one part i don't understand is this:
"After signing in and installing, you can play any of your games from any Xbox One because a digital copy of your game is stored on your console and in the cloud.

"So, for example, while you are logged in at your friend's house, you can play your games."
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... is this the pay off, the benefit i get for this draconian crap? how do i get to this game? is it streamed to my friend's xboxone somehow? do we have to sit there and wait for the 25gb+ to download before playing it? gee, thanks microsoft. thanks for liberating my games and allowing me all this unadulterated freedom.
 
Trading in my 360 for a PS3 today. Cancelled all my pre-orders for 360 as well on newegg. I am voting with my walle. Microsoft just lost at least 5 game sales from me.

To be fair, it also has to do with exclusives this year. PS3 seems like the ideal console to end the generation with since I don't have time for MP these days.

Not happy at all with the way the next gen is shaping. The public will catch on eventually.
 
mightynine said:
Direct from the horse's mouth:
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Worse than I thought... I was close to just ignore the whole thing, but no, I can't support this. It'll be exactly as when my I got my first refurbed 360. All my 50 or so XBLA games turned into trial versions when I went offline until I got the licences transformed to the new console. Only this tme I won't ever be able to get them back.
 
it just occured to me, MS has basically made Sim City the console. not just with the online requirement but also doing calculations in the cloud (except actually doing it unlike sim city).

what happens when titanface or whatever its called comes out and due to 'unprecedented demand' you have to queue for 4 hours to play the game? and if the games really rely on these cloud services there will actually be no way to play it offline

this could conceivably lead to a situation where there is literally nothing MS can do if they don't prepare their cloud stuff well enough
 
One more benefit... people can't really steal your games. At least not alone, they'd have to at least steal the console as well.
 
panda21 said:
it just occured to me, MS has basically made Sim City the console. not just with the online requirement but also doing calculations in the cloud (except actually doing it unlike sim city).

what happens when titanface or whatever its called comes out and due to 'unprecedented demand' you have to queue for 4 hours to play the game? and if the games really rely on these cloud services there will actually be no way to play it offline

this could conceivably lead to a situation where there is literally nothing MS can do if they don't prepare their cloud stuff well enough
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I get what you're saying but titanfall is a bad example as its mostly an online multiplayer game.

I actually think that many are missing the big picture. Microsoft is banking on multiplayer/social experiences. I myself prefer single player but they are probably right. Games like titanfall are exactly the kinds of games that will flourish on microsoft's system.
 
AstroLad said:
Is Kevin Butler an even bigger joke than Don Mattrick at this point? I don't know if their his opinions or all scripted, but to trot an executive out there in ads to tout some of the fanboy bull&%& he was spewing is beyond incompetent. Think he lost all his credibility a long time ago.
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jim2011 said:
I actually think that many are missing the big picture. Microsoft is banking on multiplayer/social experiences. I myself prefer single player but they are probably right.
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Oh I see it alright. But the big picture doesn't have to literally screw the smaller picture. Less focus on single player I expect, but to lead single player/offline gaming to extinction is another matter. Its also short-sighted.
 
AstroLad said:
Is Kevin Butler an even bigger joke than Don Mattrick at this point? I don't know if their his opinions or all scripted, but to trot an executive out there in ads to tout some of the fanboy bull&%& he was spewing is beyond incompetent. Think he lost all his credibility a long time ago.
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This--and some people's reactions to it--made my day right here. Bravo, Astrolad. Bravo.
 
I'd love to see Kevin Butler back. For me that would win the conference on it's own (entertainment value).

He got sued, but settled and agreed not to work anywhere else without getting approval for a couple years. I imagine he would work with Sony again if they paid him well enough and he got back in their good graces.

I think Sony only has to approve commercials, he can act in Movies and TV shows, just not as the KB character which Sony owns.
 
jim2011 said:
I get what you're saying but titanfall is a bad example as its mostly an online multiplayer game.

I actually think that many are missing the big picture. Microsoft is banking on multiplayer/social experiences. I myself prefer single player but they are probably right. Games like titanfall are exactly the kinds of games that will flourish on microsoft's system.
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except what if microsoft's giant cloud isn't giant enough to handle all the people wanting to play titanfall on the first day? and then because the game relies on offloading calculations to the cloud, it won't work. needing people owning the 'bone to be online is only half of it, MS has to deliver the clod computing power too

and it could end up being that they don't have enough servers, and there is nothing MS can do to fix it for weeks because they can't just offload it onto amazon or something.

edit:
and it sounded like sim city's usage of cloud computing was really minimal, whereas with titanfall it sounds like its a significant element of the game. if EA can't get sim city to work for a very light load, it seems very likely that a game as big as the next thing from the COD people will be a whole lot worse
 
panda21 said:
except what if microsoft's giant cloud isn't giant enough to handle all the people wanting to play titanfall on the first day? and then because the game relies on offloading calculations to the cloud, it won't work. needing people owning the 'bone to be online is only half of it, MS has to deliver the clod computing power too

and it could end up being that they don't have enough servers, and there is nothing MS can do to fix it for weeks because they can't just offload it onto amazon or something.
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Well you'd run into the same problem with any game on any platform that uses dedicated servers. If the servers can't handle it, there will be downtime. Though I think Microsoft will be ok. They seem committed and confident.
 
jim2011 said:
Well you'd run into the same problem with any game on any platform that uses dedicated servers. If the servers can't handle it, there will be downtime. Though I think Microsoft will be ok. They seem committed and confident.
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except most multiplayer games are just using dedicated servers to send data between players, titanfall is aiming to offload a lot of calculations for everyone playing the game onto the servers too. its an extra thing that could fail they are adding to the equation, that hasn't really been done before in gaming. it will be like an MMO launch but about a zillion times worse because the stuff they are proposing to do in the cloud is a lot more sophisticated, and MMO launches always go great.
 
digoutyoursoul said:
What did they say?
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They work in the movie/tv division, but pretty much what was discussed here. Unfortunately, he's the type not to break NDAs so I couldn't get anything else out of him (which is fine even though we've been friends since middle schoool).

Although, I'm sorta having a debate about the 24 hour authentication with him and he's saying, "We're connected online all the time anyways, so it's not a big deal"; then I gave him my retort.

But interestingly enough he says him and those that aren't too thrilled about the xbone won't be getting one unless they win it in a contest or are freely given to them at their office.

Edit:

Guess he totally agrees with me now...
 
DeathNote said:
so, you've been a gaf member for a whole 8 days huh?
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NeoGAF One New Member Policy:

  • Be Able to Post With Your GAF Friends:
    NeoGAF One is designed so GAF moderators and administrators can enable you to post positively or negatively about any console (including the Xbox One). There are no NeoGAF Gold fees charged as part of these posts. There are two requirements: you can only defend insane anti-consumer policies of the console of your choice only if you have been a member for at least 30 days and if any of your posts is ban-worthy: perma.​
 
reddmyst said:
They work in the movie/tv division, but pretty much what was discussed here. Unfortunately, he's the type not to break NDAs so I couldn't get anything else out of him (which is fine even though we've been friends since middle schoool).

Although, I'm sorta having a debate about the 24 hour authentication with him and he's saying, "We're connected online all the time anyways, so it's not a big deal"; then I gave him my retort.

But interestingly enough he says him and those that aren't too thrilled about the xbone won't be getting one unless they win it in a contest or are freely given to them at their office.
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Interesting,thanks
 
I keep seeing the occasional person posting, "who cares, you won't be playing these games in 20 years anyway."
"Nobody gets their old SNES or Genesis out of the closet and plays with them anymore. Everyone wants to play the latest games"

Oh really? Fuck you.
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bill0527 said:
I keep seeing the occasional person posting, "who cares, you won't be playing these games in 20 years anyway."
"Nobody gets their old SNES or Genesis out of the closet and plays with them anymore. Everyone wants to play the latest games"

Oh really? Fuck you.
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Saturn on top, where it belongs.
 
bill0527 said:
I keep seeing the occasional person posting, "who cares, you won't be playing these games in 20 years anyway."
"Nobody gets their old SNES or Genesis out of the closet and plays with them anymore. Everyone wants to play the latest games"
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The bigger factor for me has been digital re-releases of many of these games: why dig through the closet or some box when I can just buy Super Mario World on the VC (nevermind that my copy is dead)? But when that ISN'T an option I like to keep the option to haul them out, as the case has been with all games before this gen! And even this gen with many PS2/Xbox games. Nevermind how many games will never be made available again, if I could access my entire prior libraries on each successive console it wouldn't really matter as much.

But yeah, the neophilia's nauseating. Especially as this kind of crap is at an extreme a GREAT excuse to tackle my backlog.
 
bill0527 said:
I keep seeing the occasional person posting, "who cares, you won't be playing these games in 20 years anyway."
"Nobody gets their old SNES or Genesis out of the closet and plays with them anymore. Everyone wants to play the latest games"

Oh really? Fuck you.
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I still have my Saturn, Dreamcast, and N64 all hooked up. So yeah I 100% agree with this.
 
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