Xbox One: Details on Connectivity, Licensing (24 hour check-in) and Privacy Features
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SirMossyBloke
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For people with bandwidth caps?
Because 35GB a download is absolutely practical.
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Deleted member 752119
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Bluray based games will mean lots of 10+ GB games. Not everyone has the broadband speed/reliability/big enough data cap to regularly download such big files.
They'd have LOVED to go fully digital, but the internet infrastructure just isn't there yet. Even for the online checks some will be screwed if they can't use dial up somehow since some places still don't have broadband or 3g (my parents don't for one--just use Verizon cellular 1x service currently--middle of no where rural crap hole). Much less if everyone had to have really good broadband to download stuff easily.
freenudemacusers
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I can trot down to target and get a game in 10 minutes vs waiting hours for a download.
evil solrac v3.0
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Marty Chinn
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While true, heh it seems kinda ironic given that the console requires online =)
Fox Mulder
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I honestly got bored of gaming a few years ago with all the damn shooters and short linear single player campaigns, and retro games brought the spark back. I've built up a decent collection of ps1, snes, GameCube, n64, and just started getting dreamcast and ps2 stuff.
Fuck next gen and its bullshit DRM. I'll take my money and go play my old ass games on a fat CRT I got off Craigslist for $25.
Maybe. It really depends on what Sony announces as their policies. Sony could clean house this generation or they could be neck and neck again with Microsoft. It's up to them. Publisher backlash won't last if you have the dominant system of the generation. They need Sony/MS more than Sony/MS need them IMO because a publisher that ignores either of these two for multiplat games is leaving money on the table.
But if Sony announces the same shit that MS did, I'll personally stick with PC but it will also mean no advantage on either side other than pure specs on PS4 and greater value on PS+ than Gold (but this is also subject to what their policy brief contains...)
Then what are they doing buying the XBO? /MS
Agent Dale Cooper
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As opposed to being so poor they need to trade in games?
Why do they have to be so big? Why are the same games a fraction of the size on PC? Maybe developers need to do the same compression techniques and pretend we're not all going to be playing their games through a blu-ray drive.
Marty Chinn
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Have you downloaded a PC game lately? They're huge too.
Yeah, but they're not 40GB uncompressed audio/video big like you find on blu-ray. Developers realize they're working with blu-ray and they go buck wild, but this generation the DD versions of these games need to be managable. It should take a lot of work to fill up the internal HDD with PS+ games or XBox DD's.
gamergirly
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They'll probably only be around for the first 2 years..
Proposed Law
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wrong thread
Agent Dale Cooper
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I don't even know what I'm watching.
Can we wear hooded robes?
Will we be living in ancient monestaries built upon the side of great cliffs?
Will we only able to eat porage from old clay bowls using wooden spoons?
Will we only be able to game by candle light?
If "yes" to all of these then I'll join you, brother.
SymbolicGamer
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I like having a collection. If I have the choice between digital and physical, I will always go with physical. But I also like having a digital copy to compliment it. I'm a big fan of movies and music that come with digital copies.
The Xbox One is kind of a double edged sword for me though.
I love the fact that I'll soon be able to play my games without the disc, as it will help my collection stay in better condition. I've already broken one copy of Halo: Reach (I'm an Inheritor BTW), because a piece broke off while I was putting it back in the case.
But I hate that if Microsoft doesn't accommodate, my entire Xbox One collection will become useless if their Xbox One servers are ever shut down.
She is using the gas to wash her car.
Marty Chinn
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Most games don't hit 40GB. I'd bet 1% of the PS3 releases actually does that. Plus video is not uncompressed. It wouldn't fit on the disc if it was. Lossless audio is a good thing too. We just have to accept as these systems become more powerful, art assets gets bigger.
Tylahedras
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Is... is that what I think that is? Holy crap lady. LOL.
Oh, you don't do that?
It's a fantastic de-icer.
Also gets sticker residue off.
Fox Mulder
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The xbox 360 games on demand service had games optimized for download instead of just straight DVD rips. Too bad the pricing wasn't optimized as well.
BigWeather
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You have my quill*!
Keeping the Odyssey2, Commodore 64, and Amiga alive!
*or whatever the heck it is a monk would have.
If Sony jumps in it will be the end of the Console industry.
fallingdove
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Excellent. There have been Redmond steamers laid all over the place the past few days
Serious question, was there this much backlash regarding iTunes and steam? I am just trying to put this into context.
Also I do remain optimistic that if the policies don't get changed, that at least they will evolve to have some of the better pricing pressures like on steam and the various app stores.
Also I do remain optimistic that if the policies don't get changed, that at least they will evolve to have some of the better pricing pressures like on steam and the various app stores.
That's REALLY optimistic. And honestly, it depends on what Sony announces that will probably determine what is next. STEAM lets you play offline for months once you set it to offline mode. Games are super cheap and can be played offline. But since it's PC, if you ever want to be sure you can play offline, there are ways.
itunes? First I've heard of this comparison. itunes lets you manage/reset your allowed computers once every few years and gives you something like 5 PC activations in the meantime which corresponds to regular user system upgrades. I've reset mine once since buying my first ipod in the late 90's. Once you've activated that computer, you can play the songs and add them to your ipod without any internet access at all.
link1201
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This made it to the Wall Street Journal Tweeter feed.
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/343150811234316288
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/343150811234316288
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
The context is that I've never used iTunes or Steam, and thus have never felt like I've needed to bitch about them.
Evolution_1ne
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then customer blames Ubisoft as if they slapped them for no reason
There was a ton of backlash regarding steam iirc
freenudemacusers
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itunes music is drm free, shows/movies can be watched offline with zero issues.
Even if Microsoft backpedals on everything - no online requirement ever, buy/sell/trade/lend used games as always (and this will never happen), I will still NEVER BUY AN XBOX AGAIN because the fact that Microsoft would even be willing to implement such things show me what they thinks of me as a consumer: A dollar sign to be collected, with no rights. I do not wish to do business with such a company. There are no exclusive games good enough to make up for this.
It is now, but wasn't it DRM-laden at some point? (I don't use iTunes.)
IIRC it was consumer frustration/backlash that helped change the DRM situation. But again, my memory of it isn't so good.
(I don't anticipate the same happening here.)
freenudemacusers
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yeah, they lifted the restriction a couple years ago IIRC. probably because it was really pointless and more annoying than anything, I think you could crack the music drm in seconds. Even then, you could (and still can) watch/listen offline without needing to phone home.
Yeah because FairPlay isn't DRM. You used to only be able to play your music using iTunes and on iPods lol
All music originally did have DRM. IIRC Apple had to negotiate with the record labels to allow the DRM to be stripped. They wanted it to be DRM-free from the beginning, but it took years to make it happen.
Yes, it was. You had to activate music on a device before listening to it by signing into iTunes*. I think it was a max of 5 devices at any time.
I know I bought very few albums on iTunes, then really dove in when Amazon popped in offering all DRM-free content. Now I buy as much in a month as I did in the entire DRM era.
*Edit: Once, when the music is first on the device, not every single time you want to listen to it.