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Yet another tipping thread...

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missbreedsiddx said:
Tips are taken out of waitstaff paychecks. So they may get 10 an hour, but the paycheck is going to be for 40 bucks or so, sometimes even just a couple of cents ( I had a friend who held onto a paycheck for 1 cent). Although that depends on the policy of the restaurant. I worked at one place that didn't take tips out of the paycheck because of how they categorized us, so I made bank.

In many states that is against the law. States such as California, Nevada, Hawaii, Washington, and Oregon. I forgot Alaska too. The western states.
 
Pointing out 5 unique states compared to the other 45 doesn't really add anything to a tipping thread other than telling us "okay, at least waiters are paid well there." What do you want us to say?
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Pointing out 5 unique states compared to the other 45 doesn't really add anything to a tipping thread other than telling us "okay, at least waiters are paid well there." What do you want us to say?
Well he really was just answering your question.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Pointing out 5 unique states compared to the other 45 doesn't really add anything to a tipping thread other than telling us "okay, at least waiters are paid well there." What do you want us to say?

I don't think there is anything in particular he wants you to say, just maybe to aknowledge his point. Some places base pay isn't an issue, yet the obligation still stands.
 
weepy said:
Question for those who tip: Do you tip despite performance/service? Like, if you get shoddy service would you still tip the person?

Just yesterday I was at a restaurant with some friends and our waiter was bad...I mean really bad. He flubbed two of our orders, didn't refill any drinks, and forgot an appetizer we ordered (we wasn't billed for it, thank God). When it came down to pay (the meals were, give or take, $35) I still felt obliged to put down $5 despite my friends telling me I shouldn't tip the guy. IDK, I guess I didn't want the guy to think I'm part of the stereotype (black ppl don't tip) or I figured I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and guess that it was his first day on the job, who know?

Nevertheless, would you tip regardless or do the service have to warrant the payment?

If the service is shite, I have no qualms about not tipping, but I've only not tipped twice in my life as the service I've received has generally been of a pretty good standard.
 
I always tip, i worked a courier for chinese food, so i know how much tips can make a difference on your income.
But o boy was it an issue when me and my buddy were in the states, probably every place we went, they thought we weren't gonna tip beacause we were from europe :lol :lol
 
Kinitari said:
I don't think there is anything in particular he wants you to say, just maybe to aknowledge his point. Some places base pay isn't an issue, yet the obligation still stands.

Food industries will collapse if they stop slave driving their servers.

Duh!
 
Nobody tips in my country. I like that, I enjoy knowing what I am going to pay beforehand and not having to stress over how much should I tip.
Besides, I find the practice in abroad countries to give an almost non-existent salary to waiters and the like and make them live off tips abhorrent and degrading. They're basically making them live off charity.
 
Petrie said:
I wish more people got this. I don't even mind staying around late. It's part of the job. But to keep me around hours after close and then not leave me a dime?

Now try to put yourself in a cook's shoes. Not only do we have to stay, cannot break down our stations, don't get any extra money and have sniveling servers hovering around waiting for their desserts.
 
agrajag said:
Now try to put yourself in a cook's shoes. Not only do we have to stay, cannot break down our stations, don't get any extra money and have sniveling servers hovering around waiting for their desserts.
But how much do you get paid.

/sarcasm
 
agrajag said:
Now try to put yourself in a cook's shoes. Not only do we have to stay, cannot break down our stations, don't get any extra money and have sniveling servers hovering around waiting for their desserts.

At one of the restaurants we worked at, the cooks actually got tipped out. Not much, but still it was something. It was the only place i'd ever heard of doing that though. Those guys were awesome, all mexican, so my half assed spanish was in constant use. First rule I learned, get the cooks to like you. Life will be ten times easier.
 
missbreedsiddx said:
At one of the restaurants we worked at, the cooks actually got tipped out. Not much, but still it was something. It was the only place i'd ever heard of doing that though. Those guys were awesome, all mexican, so my half assed spanish was in constant use. First rule I learned, get the cooks to like you. Life will be ten times easier.

Yeah, that's not really typical though. My friend works on a charter yacht and they tip out the cooks. But yeah, it's nice know some non-douchey servers who don't treat you like a fucking philistine.
 
I never, ever tip if I get shitty service or if my food comes really late.

I pay people well if they do their job well, if they don't I'll keep their company in business but I won't give them any extra cash for making my day worse.
 
DKnight said:
Nobody tips in my country. I like that, I enjoy knowing what I am going to pay beforehand and not having to stress over how much should I tip.
Besides, I find the practice in abroad countries to give an almost non-existent salary to waiters and the like and make them live off tips abhorrent and degrading. They're basically making them live off charity.

$10 an hour is not a non existent salary. That is how much they usually make here and they get tip on top of this.
 
DGodlessOnessss said:
$10 an hour is not a non existent salary. That is how much they usually make here and they get tip on top of this.

What they "usually make here" is 3 bucks an hour. The implication is that they make the rest up from customers who aren't cheap.
 
Banzaiaap said:
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"You know what this is? It's the world's smallest violin, playing just for the waitresses."
Exactly what I was thinking of :lol

I'm too awkward to tip, what if I give too much and they end up complimenting me? I can't take that chance.
 
My mom and I feel awful if we need to add the tip to our debit/credit cards. Specially for people who did a good job. How does the server get their money in that case? Does it get added to their check or something?
 
red shoe paul said:
My mom and I feel awful if we need to add the tip to our debit/credit cards. Specially for people who did a good job. How does the server get their money in that case? Does it get added to their check or something?

It depends on the restaurant, but it's no big deal.

We had this equation thing at the end of the night (no computer system, old school ticket system). Total sales - credit card sales - credit card tips - anything else that would prevent us from receiving actual cash (gift certificates, house accounts, etc). The number we'd end up with (our "turn-in") should theoretically be equal to cash sales for the night. The difference is our cash tips + credit card tips. Basically our boss fronted the tips to us, and when the transaction cleared, they kept it.

A friend worked at a different place that waited until the credit card transactions cleared, so they'd get their credit card tips within a day or two.

I think most places, you just hit a few buttons on the computer and it tells you down to the penny what is yours to keep.
 
I'm with Mr. Pink, i don't think their job should be set up the way it is but I tip anyway. Today the guy from Mellow Mushroom got a good tip from me and all he did was refill my GF's drink once and bring the pizza, granted that's all we needed. Maybe they should set it up so that if you're hosting a bunch of people at a table you need to tip but if it's just two people you're job isn't that hard..
 
As several people have stated already, the best thing to do for someone who does not want to tip because of lousy service, is not to leave no money, because then it looks like you forgot. You tip them $.23 or something rediculous like that.

I always think to myself when I have bad service that I won't tip, but when I get the reciept I add a tip on when I sign anyway. The only time I don't tip is when I am kind of broke. If I am running low on funds, sorry, but no tip. I would have no problem though with really horrible service, not tipping them something nice.

I look at the tip as the reward for doing your job well, which doesn't make sense because I already said that I generally tip regardless of service.
The most I ever left was at a resteraunt in Korea. I paid for me and a buddy and the total was about $60. The place, Puffins, had excellent bread and an awesome italian sauce to use on it. He probably brought out 5 things of bread for us. Everytime we saw him we asked for more. Also, there was this really cool oil candle that we lit and put on the edge of the table. The server, when he brought out the plates, said that they were hot so he was being careful with them. While slowely lowering the plate, his arm was over the flame. He started to grimace and we realized he was being burned. He set down the plate and politely excused himself in Hungul. My buddy left about 15 dollars on the table for him and when I paid the $60 dollar bill, I added a tip and totaled it at $90. The actual food wasn't that great. Koreans can't make good lasagna. But it was the best service I have ever had and probably will ever have, until I go back to Korea. I'm damn sure not going to get service like that in the US...
 
The S-Word said:
I'm with Mr. Pink, i don't think their job should be set up the way it is but I tip anyway. Today the guy from Mellow Mushroom got a good tip from me and all he did was refill my GF's drink once and bring the pizza, granted that's all we needed. Maybe they should set it up so that if you're hosting a bunch of people at a table you need to tip but if it's just two people you're job isn't that hard..

Wouldn't the fact that a tip is generally a percentage take care of that issue though. As a table of 2 people the expected amount would be much less than a larger table simply based on the size of the check to begin with.
 
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