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[Bluemercury]

Need to explain how the hell Bush won......because, his last 4 years were disastrous, i mean this is the man who failed to get bin laden and who attacked Hussein because of the supposed mass destruction type material that was never found and the supposed relation to the bin laden group that was also not proved and right now i can say that the US intervention was the worst solution for iraq .......also, werent most of you against the iraq war????

 

[DaCocoBrova]

Middle motherphuckin' America... That's how.

Say 'Hi'!

 

[belgurdo]

Are blacks treated well in Canada? What kind of job opportunities are there? I need to know

 

[GG-Duo]

It wasn't the war or the economy that killed us. It was the notion of "values".

Massachusetts has the lowest divorce rate in the nation, yet Kerry was bad because he had "Massachusetts values" or other such nonesense.

We need to retake the language. We need to reframe the notion of "value".

That's why Obama's speech below is so brilliant. He speaks of God in a way that not just fails to offend this atheist, but inspires me. It's faith used for the purpose of living a good life, rather than faith wielded as a weapon against a whole class of people.

The wedges: gays, abortion, and guns.

Democrats have abandoned guns as an issue, and over the next three or four cycles it will prove an increasingly ineffective wedge. The NRA won. Good for them.

That leaves the two "faith based" wedges -- gays and abortion. And with great skill, the Republicans have equated those two issues with the word "value".

That's going to have to change.

That, and marketing.

 

[radioheadrule83]

I think many pro-war people like myself didn't want to see Bush win either. Especially on East / West coast America. At least from what I've read. I'm only from the UK, so I'll be first to admit I have little knowledge compared to others here...

but from what I gather, Bush is a winner on personality, on strength in times of war, with big business, and with devout christian/prodestant middle america.

This vote has me re-considering my support of Tony Blair. Who I personally find to have always been an excellent prime minister of sound judgement and conviction. But recently those feelings have been wavering. Never once has he challenged any aspect of White House policy. We've got our man this side of the pond, slightly left of center puporting to promote social justice, the environment, and a better world -- and on that side of the pond, the man he is colluding with, is trying to take away freedoms. In fact Bush is so far right wing compared to Blair's last ally Clinton, that it baffles the mind to why he offers such complicity.

Though I still believe he is good for our country, and went into Iraq with a genuine desire to help the middle east and not allow emerging Federal Europe to polarise itself with the United States, I'm not sure I can support a Bush supporting Blair much longer.

 

[Minotauro]

God is making us suffer for our decadent lifestyles.

 

[CrimsonSkies]

I'm doing great under Bush. I’ve got a nice job, just bought a new F-150 truck, might build a house this year, etc. You see I voted for Bush because I work and live in the real world. I don't sit on message boards all day reading and believing crazy conspiracy theories and screaming whoa is me. So you non Americans that are complaining. Maybe we are right and you're wrong. That might be something you can think on.

 

[DaCocoBrova]

just bought a new F-150 truck, might build a house this year, etc.

See what I mean...

 

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[duderon]

I'm doing great under Bush. I’ve got a nice job, just bought a new F-150 truck, might build a house this year, etc. You see I voted for Bush because I work and live in the real world. I don't sit on message boards all day reading and believing crazy conspiracy theories and screaming whoa is me. So you non Americans that are complaining. Maybe we are right and you're wrong. That might be something you can think on.

We just look at the facts, dude. Just because YOU are doing well doesn't mean the rest of the country is. The reason Bush is back is because of fear. The average american is afraid of change in this time of "terrorism", that of which was insanely pushed by the republicans.

 

[radioheadrule83]

:lol

 

[Mike Works]

Even though Alberta is heavily conservative (from a Canadian prospect), I could not see them- nor any other part of Canada- voting for Bush.

Also, there's a fucking stickied political thread. Use it.