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[Tony Rocky Horror]

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/12/world/africa/zimbabwe-mugabe-election/index.html

Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe said Monday the West and his political opponents can commit suicide if they cannot accept his recent re-election.
"Those who can't stomach the defeat, you can commit suicide. Even dogs will not sniff their carcasses," said the 89-year-old leader while addressing an event to commemorate veterans of Zimbabwe's war for independence.
It was his first public speech since the Zimbabwe Electoral Commission declared him winner, with 61% of the vote, of the July 31 elections, beating Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai.
Tsvangirai's Movement for Democratic Change last week challenged the election results, accusing the electoral commission of rigging the polls for Mugabe's ZANU-PF.
"We will never go back on our victory. We do not know what is retreating," Mugabe said.
To the West "we are delivering democracy on a platter. Will you take?" asked Africa's oldest leader. "We say take it or leave it. We will never go back on our victory."
Some of the people that attended the event Monday had placards reading "Which Africa Observed Elections in Europe or America?"; "Come on, concede defeat"; "Obama: Zimbabwe will never be a second Chile"; "Thank you Zimbabwe for defending our sovereignty"; and "Zimbabwe will never be a colony again."
Tsvangirai -- who got 34% of the July 31 vote -- and officials of his MDC party boycotted the Monday event.

Good going, Mugabe.

 

[captainnapalm]

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/12/world/africa/zimbabwe-mugabe-election/index.html



Good going, Mugabe.

No surprise. We're going to have to wait for this guy to die. I have no doubt the elections were rigged.

 

[Tony Rocky Horror]

No surprise. We're going to have to wait for this guy to die. I have no doubt the elections were rigged.

Yeah.. the only good part of this story is that the guy's already 89.

 

[ElbowRocket]

The president of SA Jacob Zuma congratulated him on his win and added that the elections were free and fair.

Mugabe is a tyrant dictator and whomever surpasses him will be just as bad.

 

[CyclopsRock]

No surprise. We're going to have to wait for this guy to die. I have no doubt the elections were rigged.

The African Union - which really has no desire to see Mugabe in power - declared it fair. Of course, they could be wrong, or otherwise covering it up for political reasons I don't understand, but it's entirely possible that the Mugabe political machine has been effective enough to actually convince people to vote for him.

 

[captainnapalm]

The African Union - which really has no desire to see Mugabe in power - declared it fair. Of course, they could be wrong, or otherwise covering it up for political reasons I don't understand, but it's entirely possible that the Mugabe political machine has been effective enough to actually convince people to vote for him.

Maybe, I haven't been following this election, but I remember in the last one there were lots of reports about shenanigans going on, voter intimidation and so on.

I just don't think Mugabe will ever give up power willingly.

 

[Tamanon]

The African Union - which really has no desire to see Mugabe in power - declared it fair. Of course, they could be wrong, or otherwise covering it up for political reasons I don't understand, but it's entirely possible that the Mugabe political machine has been effective enough to actually convince people to vote for him.

I wouldn't be surprised if they kept out of it to keep the violence at a minimum. Playing the waiting game now.

 

[maxheadwound]

They are tribe buddies... so the one look after the other one does not matter what needs to get done. Its a shame as its such a nice country but its all gone to waste as the mummy is ruling it.

 

[aorange999]

Mugabe's party 'cleanly' rigged the elections if thats possible. There was no overt violence, voter intimidation or anything that could cause an international uproar. The AU and SADC (local economic bloc) have no legs to declare anything other than a free peaceful election. Unfortunately this round goes to Mugabe, the opposition were lulled into thinking there wouldn't be elections this year and then didn't move fast enough to out manouvre the old dog. Out of the entire region the only country that said anything was Botswana, smh.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-08-06/world/41107190_1_zimbabwe-poll-botswana-mugabe

 

[GaimeGuy]

Maybe President DibalaMugabe will end up in a US hospital while attending a UN conference, and one of his doctors wil misdiagnose him and give him the wrong medication! :O

 

[General Choomin]

Maybe President DibalaMugabe will end up in a US hospital while attending a UN conference, and one of his doctors wil misdiagnose him and give him the wrong medication! :O

Wow that's terrible. Anyways the wrong candidate won so now people are claiming the new black panthers where at the voting stations. Same shit different place.

 

[Sky Chief]

Classy as always

 

[Akuun]

Pretty much saying "If you don't like it, then fuck off and die." in a public statement. Classy.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Wow that's terrible. Anyways the wrong candidate won so now people are claiming the new black panthers where at the voting stations. Same shit different place.

I don't mean to call for Mugabe's death. But it does seem like he's a real life version of Dibala from that House episode, doesn't he? Wonder if Dibala was modelled after him

 

[nephilimdj]

The president of SA Jacob Zuma congratulated him on his win and added that the elections were free and fair.

Mugabe is a tyrant dictator and whomever surpasses him will be just as bad.

The guy who said you can shower off HIV is hardly credible

 

[Dude Abides]

The guy who said you can shower off HIV is hardly credible

He's also a little rapey.

 

[General Choomin]

The guy who said you can shower off HIV is hardly credible

But he's incredibly clean.

 

[v1oz]

The African Union - which really has no desire to see Mugabe in power - declared it fair. Of course, they could be wrong, or otherwise covering it up for political reasons I don't understand, but it's entirely possible that the Mugabe political machine has been effective enough to actually convince people to vote for him.

The AU respects Mugabe because he's a revolutionary and a freedom fighter. He is also the most experienced and longest serving President in Africa. Many other Independent poll monitors reported numerous widespread irregularities.

And yes Mugabe did rig the elections. The whole election was a stage managed affair. His political party even rigged it's own primary elections pissing off a lot of their own political candidates in the process. Anyone thinking they can remove Mugabe from power with elections is kidding themselves - the man has committed himself to dying in power and hasn't won the last two or three elections.

 

[Mashin Haters]

holy fuck hes 89??? he'll probably die before his rivals commit suicide

 

[General Choomin]

So he went through the whole process of having an election so the opposition could bad mouth him and just rigged it anyways? Sounds kinda like doing a whole lot of work for nothing if you are a dictator.

 

[GungHo]

I wish our guys over here would be more descriptive in their insults. "I piss on your bill. Even dogs will not sniff it."

 

[aorange999]

So he went through the whole process of having an election so the opposition could bad mouth him and just rigged it anyways? Sounds kinda like doing a whole lot of work for nothing if you are a dictator.

He isn't the 'typical' dictator, he prides himself in winning elections and democracy. He has always had an opposition to 'compete' against. For the first time in 2000-2008 he had a semi organized opposition that was decently funded and they actually beat him. The story goes that he had actually decided to step down in 2008 but his military generals promised to prop him up if he stuck around because they were still milking the gravy train. The AU and SADC region stepped in and made him sign a unity accord and do a shaky coalition. This then gave them 5 years to regroup and figure out a way to rig elections and maintain power forever.

He will definitely die in office, they set up the new constitution so he can hand pick a successor.

 

[BruiserBear]

What a despicable human being.

 

[Quixzlizx]

Obama should say that to the House Republicans who keep voting to repeal the ACA every other week.

 

[childplease]

African politics

 

[maxheadwound]

If you look at him he already look embalmed....

 

[G.O.O.]

Mugabe is the man

 

[ElbowRocket]

The guy who said you can shower off HIV is hardly credible

Yes that's obvious but it just shows how corrupt these African leaders are, so sad.

 

[Majine]

Mugabe is the man

And here I thought that country was in the shitter. They must have millionaires left and right!

 

[General Choomin]

I'm sick and tired of all the people talking shit on Mugabe! I know a lot of people that voted for him!

 

[Reuenthal]

An interesting article about the Zimbabwean elections:


Diamonds ensure Mugabe is forever
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ugabe-is-forever/story-fnb64oi6-1226690905128

THE president of Zimbabwe, Robert Mugabe, used $850m of diamond money to rig the country's elections, intelligence documents obtained by The Sunday Times reveal.

The documents, dated June 3, detail how Chinese and Zimbabwean diamond companies pumped cash into a war chest used by Mugabe to manipulate the results of the election and intimidate the population.

As Zimbabweans prepared for another five years of autocratic rule after the country's electoral commission announced that Mugabe had won the presidential elections with 61 per cent of the vote.

The classified documents reveal how Mugabe's Zanu-PF party received $800m from two diamond mining companies controlled by Chinese investors and senior military commanders in the Zimbabwean army, police and intelligence services. Joseph Kabila, president of the Democratic Republic of the Congo, allegedly gave $85m and the government of Equatorial Guinea gave $92m to the slush fund.


Zanu-PF used the money to pay an Israeli firm, which the documents name, to rig the electoral roll, according to the documents. The company requested $3bn "to secure 50 per cent of the adult vote" for Mugabe.

The documents also disclose that Zimbabwe's intelligence service, the Central Intelligence Organisation (CIO), spied on communications between foreign diplomats in the run up to last week's elections. One document says that conversations between David Cameron and Jacob Zuma, the South African president, were monitored by the CIO.

The documents also accuse Morgan Tsvangirai, leader of the opposition party, the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC), of passing state secrets to foreign governments, putting Tsvangirai at risk of arrest.

The debate about the extent to which Mugabe rigged the elections has centred on an elusive document contained in 1,958 ring binders and weighing more than two tons - the electoral roll.

In many areas, particularly in places considered to be Zanu-PF strongholds, the number of registered voters far exceeded the adult population.

"How is this possible?" asked one political adviser with strong links to the government, before bursting into laughter. "Zanu-PF created millions of ghost voters they then used to swing the elections in their favour."

The government's attempts to block access to the electoral roll broke into the open in the weeks before the election when the High Court, on orders from the registrar-general, banned the publication of an investigation into these discrepancies.

Tobaiwa Mudede, the registrar and a fierce Mugabe loyalist, accused the group behind the investigation - the Research and Advocacy Unit - of trying to cause chaos.

A leaked copy of the group's damning report states that more than 2m potential voters under the age of 30, an age group more likely to vote for the MDC, had been left off the electoral roll. The investigation also discovered that more than one million dead people had been registered, along with more than 116,000 people over the age of 100. One of those is a 135-year- old army officer.

That same electoral roll has about 900,000 duplicate names with identical addresses and dates of birth but different ID numbers. The intelligence documents reveal that Mugabe hired an Israeli company to add duplicate names, allowing Zanu-PF supporters to vote many times in different wards.

The intelligence documents show that a member of the Chinese Communist party liaised with the Middle Eastern firm and the registrar-general's office to "neutralise hostile votes" in urban areas by under-registering young voters and over-registering older ones.

The documents also show that Zanu-PF bought the loyalty of election observers. The documents state that "... 33 per cent of the budget will cover regional diplomacy to drum up support for poll credibility before, during and after elections".

A Chinese investor, Sam Pa, who is chairman of one of Zimbabwe's largest diamond mining operations, provided Zanu-PF with 2m campaign T-shirts and other election regalia.

Another company, which allegedly wants to buy concessions in the diamond mining sector, provided 500 vehicles to the president's campaign for "transport and mobilisation", the documents state.

They also reveal the extent to which Mugabe was terrified of losing. "The state of the party at cell and ward level is compromised and under siege from the enemy," the CIO states.

The documents show China provided Mugabe's government with short-wave jamming equipment to shut down local radio stations deemed to be pro-MDC.

Fears are rising that Mugabe's landslide could split the MDC, which held emergency meetings yesterday to decide how to tackle the crisis. A divided opposition would further strengthen Mugabe's 33-year rule which, critics say, has been characterised by crippling economic mismanagement and human rights abuses.

 

[General Choomin]

Yeah that seems to be too complicated just to rig an election. Leaving people off and adding ghost voters? You can just do one of those things. I really doubt you would need one billion dollars in a dictatorship to rig it. Sounds like a smear campaign just like the one against Chavez.

 

[pulsemyne]

Yeah that seems to be too complicated just to rig an election. Leaving people off and adding ghost voters? You can just do one of those things. I really doubt you would need one billion dollars in a dictatorship to rig it. Sounds like a smear campaign just like the one against Chavez.

Yeah because he defiantly didn't do that in the previous election. Mugabe is mental.

 

[General Choomin]

I'm sick of this bullshit where the loser politicians take a quick poll to see if they will win and when it turns out they won't they declare they won during the voting time so that when it shows they didn't they can have a hissy fit and say the shit was rigged. Then later they say they won't participate unless the government of the winners do a national reconciliation government which is 50% them and 50% the winners. This has happened most recently in Cambodia and it's a load of shit and subverts democracy. That's why no one in Africa is talking about this cuz they already know the tactics (something similar is happening in Tunisia) and its bullshit.

 

[Kiraly]

Mugabe does not fuck about.

 

[reggieandTFE]

Yeah that seems to be too complicated just to rig an election. Leaving people off and adding ghost voters? You can just do one of those things. I really doubt you would need one billion dollars in a dictatorship to rig it. Sounds like a smear campaign just like the one against Chavez.

Amazing. You sound like some of those Republican senior voters who were still voting for Romney even after being detailed his policies (Medicare cuts, privatizing social security, etc) because they didn't believe they would actually do that.

 

[Mesousa]

They are tribe buddies... so the one look after the other one does not matter what needs to get done. Its a shame as its such a nice country but its all gone to waste as the mummy is ruling it.

Yeah....I mean, Rhodesia was just lovely when blacks knew their place right?

This thread really is showing westerners opinions of Africans.

 

[General Choomin]

Amazing. You sound like some of those Republican senior voters who were still voting for Romney even after being detailed his policies (Medicare cuts, privatizing social security, etc) because they didn't believe they would actually do that.

HUH WHAT?