I would agree if we talk about people like us who can instantly list 10+ exclusives for each platoform. But we are not representative, i bet most casuals would struggle after Mario and Zelda and some woulnb't even know exclusive means. So i can't agree on that "mostly" part.
Lying to shareholders is a hell of a way to instigate a lawsuit against yourself. Anyone who thinks the guy is lying is so deep in the console war as to be unrecoverable.Where is this narrative that no one believes Satya Nadella coming from?
Surely if people don't care about exclusives they'd go for the series s because it's cheaper right?
Very much my sentiment earlier, hence my Keep The Faith post. Xbox is doing what they’re doing out of desperation and they are in that situation alone.
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on one thing - exclusives are a necessity much more for Nintendo than anyone else.
They could release the game pass streaming app on Roku and that would make his statement true. It's corporate double speak that could mean anything from a streaming app all the way through to them being essentially a third party.
Timeline is fluid because everything moves slowly. PS5 is likely going mostly as is until 2026. Let's guess 2027 at the earliest for PS6, but if people are spooked about adoption or price, maybe even 2028 if the economy worsens. Then that means PS6 with an optional disc drive is going to be around 2027 - 2034. 2035, the "console" will still exist as a local computing device but it will look a lot different.
Not again. It's more complex than just one reason. I mean let's get back to PS4/Xbox One release. Both had really bad launch exclusives. Why did so many people chose PS instead of Xbox?
Yep - a Roku streaming app would be them continuing to extend their content to new platforms.
They are going to rake it in with that.
Because of the promise of more exclusives? Sony built a strong first party that was firing on all cylinders. MS was just spamming halo and forza and kinect. It also didn’t hurt that it was the stronger console at a cheaper price.
Because Xbox went after the Kinect crowd and tv tv TV with HDMI pass thru for US cable markets, NFL etc....they failed to deliver a console dedicated to max gaming performance. Also an extra $100 to boot.
To quote a certain guy: "When
Exactly. Exclusives may be part of the reasons to choose a platform, but usually not the main or only reason.
There's no such Kinect related gimping of the series x console this generation though. On paper the series x has more GPU tflops for what that was worth. But they continued to release their games day and date with PC, so continuing to lack any real need to own a series console this generation.
Pun intended?
Do you have any casual gamers in your friends circle? I'm the only "real gamer" (man that sounds awful) in mine. They all got a PS5s and Switchs, but other than Mario and Zelda i don't know any of them having bought any exclusive. GTA,, RDR2, Fifa or COD sure thing. The son of my best friend only plays Fortnite and Goat Simulator 3 (lol). But of course me and my friends are not representative for the world, but that's why i think the way i think.
I already posted that awful pr stuff above, i just wanted to demonstrate why it's not all about exclusives.
Sony is already at "some day and date" right now in 2024. You do concede that Sony is likely to continue with PC ports. They are likely to continue with cloud integration. And they are likely to transition to all-digital. That basically means the PS brand is going to be the "blue" app, and the app will be on everything. You can play on PC, some kind of local computation box possibly sold by Sony still, or cloud. Do you disagree with any of that? Sounds like that will be locked in over the next decade and we both agree more or less.
Would probably be smarter than canceling GaaS games.
Well it's just a prediction, so who knows. Pretty damn difficult to guess what things look like a decade from now. But I see 3rd party exclusives on console mostly going away in the extremely near future. I see games like Helldivers or Black Myth Wukong that are day 1 on PC blowing up a lot more than Stella Blade. I think without 3rd party timed exclusives like Final Fantasy, or all the rest, Sony's 1st party output isn't really fast enough to carry a whole box exclusively. We're talking 1-3 games a year, with anything multiplayer, GAAS being day 1 on PC already. But yeah, maybe they will delay their prestige titles a bit. That wouldn't surprise me at all.
That's what i think too that's why i said i expect it mid to end PS6. At this time PS should have outsold Xbox by >5:1 and Xbox should have announced the end of hardware.
I think they would get significantly more sales on pc for two reasons. First: Their huge console AAA marketing campaigns that already sell millions of copies on their own would also benefit pc. Second: Pc players have so much to play, many are not interested in full priced "old" games on release. Call me crazy, but i think a day one Spider-Man 1 on pc could have done 10 million sales.
Pretty sure ps cloud is coming to ps portal but they wanted to get it working smoothly on ps5 first.
I think they'll get their own PC store up and you can buy it day 1 there. Or 2 years later on Steam, and depending on how it does, they would obviously want to phase out Steam completely and keep all their money without paying 30% for nothing. Being on any device is fine. Being on someone else's app though is very expensive. And personally, I don't think that's unreasonable at all to get the game on the device you want but use their storefront. Sony would get all the money, and they deserve it. They're capable of running a functional store, friend list, wishlist, etc. That's where I think the next big battle is. I just can't see everyone laying down and giving all that money to Valve for nothing just because people won't load a different store up. And the benefit of buying on Sony's store will be the portability, cross save, trophies, etc.
I don't think MS exiting consoles would cause Sony to switch to day 1 PC releases. Sony would rather that you buy within psn on PS5. They've seen what continued day 1 on PC has done to the identity crisis of the series Gen.
Activision must not even give a shit about YouTube. They have 3 videos there in the past year. Most current one was from 4 months ago. Looking at their history, their video postings died off after the acquisition announcement. Since they are part of Xbox Game Studios, I assume they must be relying on their Xbox youtube then. However the Activision main webpage and the COD main webpage both advertise Game Pass for Blackops 6.
I talked about it yesterday, but Microsoft is far closer to doing this than Sony is (and have far greater imperatives to do it).
I think it really depends on what they want out of this. I think %5-10 of the PC market can be taken over a period of say, 10 years? That's a slice that Sony never had access to before and would represent pure growth.
Yeah, and that's fine with me. Quick resume and windows lite is good. And there should be multiple storefronts. If Nintendo ever goes this route in the distant future, it will 100% be only on their own store. I can't imagine the arrogance of anyone thinking Nintendo should put stuff on PC and give 1/3rd of it to Valve for no reason. I think PC gamers really have a giant blindspot with their demand for everything to be on Steam. If Valve took 5% or something, fine, but they often are taking 1/3rd which is pretty insane. At least buying games on a MS, Sony or Nintendo storefront is putting money back in the pocket of a company that reinvests in great games. Valve is harvesting 30% out and giving you hats and 1 GAAS game every decade. That's a gigantic sum of money basically lit on fire as far as the gaming consumer is concerned.
