foxuzamaki
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I'm not feeding you pop-O-matic.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U Thread 5: Yarning for Yoshi
- Thread starter IntelliHeath
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You guys are downplaying what the 3DS can handle. The 3DS can handle Smash, it's just framerate that's the biggest issue and what needs to be done to keep a fixed framerate for a game like Smash.
I'd much rather have the Wii U version out first but I understand that Sakurai needs time and I'd rather have a great complete game rather than something shoddy and not up to par.
I'm completely fine with a slight delay as long as the game continues to come out by the end of 2014. And by that, I mean an international release date by then. It'd be great if the game was being released simultaneously but that's not gonna happen.
For now if you want the characters you love and you know they have no chance in SSB4, just mod Project M.
I finally finished and debugged my current version of Project M: The Ultimax Ultra Suplex Hold and I'm liking it right now. It might be done unless there are some changes I want.
-Tons of model and texture replacements
-Menu Changes
-Background Changes
-Final Smash Changes
-Moveset Changes such as Ganon getting a new sword moveset alongside his PM one.
-and more...
PM me if you want to learn how to do it. I've been playing on my Wii U and it's been fulfilling my itch for the next Smash Bros. Plus the game looks pretty good on an 56in HDTV.
If it's not against the rules, I'll post up a link for my current build. If not PM me.
It's not just Project M, but you can basically do this with Vanilla Brawl while keeping Brawl physics and gameplay. Mod the game to however you'll like it. Have Smash be something wacky while not being some broken Mugen fighter.
I'd much rather have the Wii U version out first but I understand that Sakurai needs time and I'd rather have a great complete game rather than something shoddy and not up to par.
I'm completely fine with a slight delay as long as the game continues to come out by the end of 2014. And by that, I mean an international release date by then. It'd be great if the game was being released simultaneously but that's not gonna happen.
For now if you want the characters you love and you know they have no chance in SSB4, just mod Project M.
I finally finished and debugged my current version of Project M: The Ultimax Ultra Suplex Hold and I'm liking it right now. It might be done unless there are some changes I want.
-Tons of model and texture replacements
-eg: Olimar has an alternate where he becomes the Prince and Pikmin become Katamari
-Lucina over Marth, Marceline over Ike, Luffy over Lucario
-Stage Replacements such as Poke Floats over Flat Zone 2, etc.-Working on getting Dive into the Heart/Sora's Awakening over FD
-Music Replacement-Menu Changes
-Background Changes
-Final Smash Changes
-Moveset Changes such as Ganon getting a new sword moveset alongside his PM one.
-and more...
PM me if you want to learn how to do it. I've been playing on my Wii U and it's been fulfilling my itch for the next Smash Bros. Plus the game looks pretty good on an 56in HDTV.
If it's not against the rules, I'll post up a link for my current build. If not PM me.
It's not just Project M, but you can basically do this with Vanilla Brawl while keeping Brawl physics and gameplay. Mod the game to however you'll like it. Have Smash be something wacky while not being some broken Mugen fighter.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Looking through my posts from the Smash threads was like a trip down memory lane. Good times.
And I really liked this:
What the hell is Mega Man doing there?
It doesn't say reduce amount characters.
So gooood. I remembered those gifs
TBQH, I love the entire Smash roster as of Brawl and the bits of Smash 4 we know about. It might just be me coming back home after a long leave of absence with Brawl's waning appeal and my search for something to fill the void. It might also be a combination of learning Melee style game play with Brawl's roster thanks to Project M. At this point however, I don't think there's one single character that's out of place, should be cut or could move over for the sake of someone else.
Of course, I'm not Sakurai so it's totally up in the air until the discs are pressed, but I can only hope that he is working hard for the best outcome.
no Falcon = no buy
I have faith that Falcon will return. Sakurai mentioned Falcon Punch in an interview regarding character balancing.
Granted, he could be referring to any Smash game, but I would imagine he would have chosen to talk about a different character if Falcon wasn't planned to return.
I have faith that Falcon will return. Sakurai mentioned Falcon Punch in an interview regarding character balancing.
Granted, he could be referring to any Smash game, but I would imagine he would have chosen to talk about a different character if Falcon wasn't planned to return.
Pop-O-Matic
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I'm not trolling, I'm just providing a healthy dose of crushing cynicism to a thread where a fair deal of the posters seem to ask for the moon and the stars. I would love to see Smash 4 have the entire Brawl roster + a bunch of newcomers + Mewtwo, but I just don't see it happening.
Indeed. I totally understand. I am so happy that Project M, came to be though. Breathing life into my copy of Brawl.... invigorating.
22 Characters are out so far and we know of probably half at the very least.
Out of these, the third party characters have been unlockables in Brawl so I can assume that Mega Man will be unlocked rather than be playable as a starter.
That leaves 20 or 21 characters who will be starters for the game which are announced so far.
Brawl had 25ish starters and 14 Unlockables.
Assuming that we have around 44-50 characters for SSB4, I'm guessing we'll only get a handful of characters revealed left while the rest are saved as secret characters.
The rest of the reveals will probably be made up of stage reveals, ATs, items, and better yet gameplay mechanics.
The roster's thinning out and I hope they cap the character reveals to about 30 maximum so that we can find out the rest of the roster ourselves.
Out of these, the third party characters have been unlockables in Brawl so I can assume that Mega Man will be unlocked rather than be playable as a starter.
That leaves 20 or 21 characters who will be starters for the game which are announced so far.
Brawl had 25ish starters and 14 Unlockables.
Assuming that we have around 44-50 characters for SSB4, I'm guessing we'll only get a handful of characters revealed left while the rest are saved as secret characters.
The rest of the reveals will probably be made up of stage reveals, ATs, items, and better yet gameplay mechanics.
The roster's thinning out and I hope they cap the character reveals to about 30 maximum so that we can find out the rest of the roster ourselves.
theprodigy
Member
nah
Sakurai should be like "there's x amount of characters in this game", and then gradually reveal them all
the salt that would flow from the last few reveals would be legendary
That first DaBoss gif reminded me of my siblings going batshit when the Smash trailer feint turned into the actual Smash 4 trailer.
"YO ITS THE SYMBOL, SMASH TIME"
"...wait Animal Crossing?"
"Villager got his tax return, he's hype as hell-- OH SHIT ITS THE SYMBOL, SMASH TIME CONFIRMED"
*Montage of franchises begins; next few lines are punctuated by the trailer's music during that segment*
"Smash Bros?"
"Yes."
"Smash Bros?!"
Yes!
"Smash Bros!"
"Yes!!"
"SMASH BROS!"
"YES"
"SMASH BROS!!!"
"YES!!!"
"YO ITS THE SYMBOL, SMASH TIME"
"...wait Animal Crossing?"
"Villager got his tax return, he's hype as hell-- OH SHIT ITS THE SYMBOL, SMASH TIME CONFIRMED"
*Montage of franchises begins; next few lines are punctuated by the trailer's music during that segment*
"Smash Bros?"
"Yes."
"Smash Bros?!"
Yes!
"Smash Bros!"
"Yes!!"
"SMASH BROS!"
"YES"
"SMASH BROS!!!"
"YES!!!"
Nintendo really missed the ball with the launch trailer. Nothing will beat Melee's reveal and the genuine hype that came from it.
Oh mannnnnn, this would be amazing. TBH, I'd prefer it this way even without the salt offering.
I agree. That way they can keep the mystery of the rest of the characters in the dark (as it should be, Brawl was no surprise when it came out) and explain other things about the games.
When we gonna get more 3DS footage?!?!??!?!!!??!
I genuinely think that if Nintendo would have held an actual E3 conference the Smash 4 trailer (and subsequent Mega Man reveal) would have generated mass hype in the crowd. Missed opportunity indeed.
MrSaturn99
Member
Because cuts have to be made in a post Brawl environment and no one likes Ike, Wolf, or Lucas for real.
WUT YOU SAY-
oh <3
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
Nah, Brawl's reveal will always be the most hype, even if it's only for the OMGWTF factor that Snake gave it.
theprodigy
Member
Lucas is my third favorite Smash character ever as per Brawl and the love is amplified even further thanks to Project M (you know, I gush about P:M a lot but it really did show the upper bound on almost every character's potential). The only two characters I love more are Pit because Uprising made me a KI fanboy and Marth because Marth's been the best for the past 13 years.
Melee was announced six months before the game came out, so they had the benefit of using the opening cinematic as the reveal trailer.
Dimitri LH
Member
I will be a sad Panda is Lucas gets cut. Back in Melee days I have always tried playing and Ness and tried to "Click" with him. But it was just not happening, I hate his floaty jump and his moves felt weird. When I got to try Lucas out Day 1 at gamestop though.....it clicked immediately, he is so much fun for me. <3
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Indeed. I totally understand. I am so happy that Project M, came to be though. Breathing life into my copy of Brawl.... invigorating.
God I love that picture.
Only going off of onsite E3 reactions. There's no doubt that Snake and Sonic generated hype because I sure was freaking out when Snake was revealed.
Melee's is special because you don't get the same genuine reactions anymore like you did with that and the DS reveal.
Nintendo's reveals for the DS, Wii, and so many more generated so much excitement and it sucks not being able to see that now especially with the SSB4 release.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Good times, I fucking love it.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
uh, eh? Your the first person ive seen to have this opinion, you do know the trailer was suppose to start with a fakeout and reached some real highs all the way through, even the ending, went on long but just long enough that you started to really think there would be no "surprise announcement" and then boom challenger approaching comes up and suddenly god is real again. it was an amazing experience, so many emotions I had.
Nintendo would've done the same for this if the Wii U wasn't (and still is) sinking so bad.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Thats not how game development works horizon.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Then why didn't they announce Brawl later (with the projected December 2007 launch)?
Baron von Loathsome
Member
It may not happen with a new Smash Bros. game, but it happened with DKCR and Mario 3D World.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
Actually, that's fairly in line with what they do now. Remember that Super Mario 3D World was revealed at E3 last year.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Indeed. I totally understand. I am so happy that Project M, came to be though. Breathing life into my copy of Brawl.... invigorating.
I really love this group shot, if only because Wolf's like "these two are show-offs".
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I have a feeling that we are going to see Lucario again tomorrow morning for Daily Image.
Are you talking about the SSB4 reveal that was streamed online or are you talking about when Iwata said that they would be on 3DS and Wii U.
The SSB4 reveal was hype, but what I'm getting at are the reactions onsite, at E3 or other conferences.
Fans will be hyped up no doubt, but its a special thing when they get really riled up in the crowd like when the DS and Metroid Prime: Hunters, Twilight Princess, and more were revealed. As much as I have an opinion on Twilight Princess, the hype after the game was revealed and after Miyamoto came on stage was ridiculous.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
I don't want any Nintendo characters cut.
Yeah I did mean Smash Bros, but I loved that they did that with those games. Hopefully there's at least a couple surprises for Wii U games this year.
Dimitri LH
Member
I expect a new Item. Been awhile since we've seen any. It will be fire emblem related.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
ohhh ok, I was confused at first, there is something about a crowd but I most def can deal with it, I was with a group of people on skype and we had alot of fun on it so it wasent like it was just me being hype and stuff and talking about it, it was a pretty great time of people sharing their opinions over mic and stuff.
PadWarrior
Member
I remember when G4 was about gaming and they were broadcasting live from E3 they showed Melee. I was working out watching it at home and nearly dropped my weights when I saw it. I love Brawl more than Melee, but that Melee reveal trailer to me was more hype than Brawl's reveal trailer. But the Mega Man reveal is more hype than both reveal trailers to me.
What if the Double Cherry became an item for SSB4 and for a set amount of time, you'd get a clone of your own character doubling up on your attacks.
That would be pretty cool, especially with Ice Climbers. Double the Popo, Double the Nana.
theprodigy
Member
Is it me or does Sonic down-air goes a lot more straight down than it did in Brawl? This could probably avoid a lot of stupid deaths.
Btw, Mario, Sonic and Mega Man fighting each other in the same game.
THINK ABOUT HOW CRAZY THAT SHIT IS!
Also, is that gif speed up? Because that looks a lot faster than Brawl.
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