I've been told it's the best series of all time with nothing else being close. Maybe it's just the hype.
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I've been told it's the best series of all time with nothing else being close. Maybe it's just the hype.
The Artful Dodger
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Idk about it being the best series of all time. I still think that honor goes to The Wire. However, I do think it did raise the bar quite a bit as far as what television shows can and can't do in terms of narration and cinematography.
Anton Sugar
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I think he's talking about The Wire?
I kinda agree--if you don't think The Wire is up there after Season 1, it may just not be for you. I rewatched Season 1 recently and forgot how great it is.
brianjones
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its no true detective but its well worth it
idk though after this show you might not be able to watch anything else ever again
The conversation I'm having is actually about The Wire.
I don't think it's bad at all. I understand the significance of a show being that grounded, at the date it aired, and touching subjects that were largely void from television (and film).
Cornballer
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Folks, let's ease up on The Wire derail. If you're interested in discussing that show at length, feel free to make a LTTP thread.
Heh.
The Artful Dodger
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Lol, I just hopped in, I thought you were talking about True Detective, I've heard peopel say that shit about it here.
Idk, The Wire just has a level of depth and realness to it that I appreciate, that is super refreshing and amazing. It broke quite a few molds, and tested television in many ways. I don't think it won't ever be surpassed (I think in some ways Treme did many of the things that the Wire did but better), but haha, Idk. That's just me. I got super into the Wire and was hooked from episode 1. As I said before Season 2 kinda slowed down and I almost lost interest but I'm glad I kept in on it. I do feel Season 4 is the strongest season overall.
Again sorry for jumping in and making assumptions.
HalfBakedProphet
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I just ordered "The Conspiracy Against the Human Race" by Thomas Ligotti. I want to go deeper down the Rust rabbit hole
hahaha, no kidding.
Didn't mean to get into it too much, just following up.
My only point was "Hey, I started this show. Finished a season. Still, amazed how much True Detective has done in a very brief period of time."
Just contrasting the two experiences going on simultaneously.
Sanjuro, bro. Wasn't talking about you. Two weeks ago some junior came in here and stirred this pot up. You're just feeling the aftermath.
Well in this case 4 episodes is half of the complete work.
Spoiler: The final four episodes were done in one take.
Anton Sugar
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I wasn't trying to imply that you thought it was bad or that the material was "beyond" you or anything, sorry. If you're at least enjoying it, I don't see any reason not to continue, though--it's consistently good. Season 2 is considered the "lesser" of the series, FWIW.
The Artful Dodger
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Which show has a better Crabman? My Name is Earl, or True Detective?
the show is good, the episode was pretty good. I don't know how people lavish hyperbolic praise on it yet though; so much of how I respond to any story (but especially a mystery) is going to be driven by the resolution. right now, the show doesn't even seem that interested in the mystery, which is very disappointing. I mean, like every fucking show on cable is about misanthropic men asking "WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE A MAN" and it gets a little old. that goes twice for the family/divorce subplot that is just lazy and hasn't even attempted to tread over new ground.
how about that fucking shot though...
how about that fucking shot though...
There's no question here, Darnell is the man.
If we wanna do a really good derail I was sorta blown away (not in a good or bad way) when I realized Talking Heads "Stop Making Sense" wasn't actually a single concert. I always thought man these guys are like the greatest live act in the history of live acts. It was actually 2 or 3 nights if I remember correctly. It's still the greatest concert movie ever (I don't like to rank TV series or movies but for this one I'm sure).
Anton Sugar
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I think this reading is a little shallow. I don't think the show is exploring what it means to be a man. It's more interested in what it means to "be" a human being, to live in a socety where your own instincts and urges go against everything that you've been told to do in order to live a good and righteous life.
Rust thinks that nihilism is the only honest way to make sense of the world and clings to that, even though he very much wanted (wants?) a family, a wife, children, happiness.
Marty maintains the appearance of your average guy, but regularly compromises his own values and his own rules in order to stay afloat and maintain. His wife was right about him: he spends so much time lying to himself that he doesn't even realize when he does it.
Even though Marty accuses Rust of it, myopia is something that both characters struggle with every day. Neither understands or acknowledges how their actions push them further away from what they really want.
That. Was. Stunning. It's only 4th episode of the entire series, 4th episode of the first season, and this show is already reaching such heights. And with every episode it gets better and better. I didn't really watch too much of TV, but this episode was truly out of this world.
I caught that immediately and loved it. As you saw shadows pass by and by you could truly feel the tension continuing to rise.
I caught that immediately and loved it. As you saw shadows pass by and by you could truly feel the tension continuing to rise.
Anton Sugar
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Last ten mins here, enjoy the faps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_qlkRt6lK4
EDIT: I remembered liking this while watching, but forgot how Rust is the only one smart enough to clear the entire house while the rest of the gang is dicking around in front. That's when I started thinking, "this group is too stupid for this to go down smoothly".
EDIT EDIT: Amazing sound design, too. The camera gets closer to the window and the one little conversation you hear is people outside talking about how they're probably fake cops.
EDIT: I remembered liking this while watching, but forgot how Rust is the only one smart enough to clear the entire house while the rest of the gang is dicking around in front. That's when I started thinking, "this group is too stupid for this to go down smoothly".
EDIT EDIT: Amazing sound design, too. The camera gets closer to the window and the one little conversation you hear is people outside talking about how they're probably fake cops.
The first three episodes didn't really grab me, but having just seen the fourth, I'm really looking forward to episode 5.
Episode 3 spoilers:
Like I said; I'm really warming to this series.
Episode 3 spoilers:
What was the deal with the tattooed gas mask wearing guy in briefs at the end of the episode? Was that Ledoux? They made it out like there was gonna be some big showdown or something, and then in episode 4 it was like it never happened. Some sort of jump in chronology? In that case, cliffhangers aren't really an effective way to end an episode.
Like I said; I'm really warming to this series.
right, I don't deny any of that, but the show just outright tells us that. It's so on the nose and obvious about everything about these characters; so maybe that's why I haven't really gotten invested in these characters. Rust, I like, even if the whole nihilism schtick is a little tiring, but you can tell at least there's some humanity there and something genuinely compelling there, but Marty... they've done absolutely nothing to transform him from just yet another misanthropic-male-lead into a fully fleshed out character yet.
so I guess I'd be fine neglecting the mystery nitty-gritty stuff if they were really exploring these guys, but Marty comes across as borderline parody. he's just a flat character, atm. Rust just needs to shut the fuck up every once in a while.
Cornballer
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- Episode #4 Clip - High Stakes (youtube)
Minor spoiler from interviews about the context of that scene:
It was a flash-forward.
EverythingShiny
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We are. Harrelson mentioned in a video about the making of True Detective that they had 3 distinct timelines to keep track of while filming - 1995, 2002, and 2012.
yea, I loved it... rust is all about being reasonable and fair and if you are not doing likewise at the time, he has no more use for you.
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SlowRevolution
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That ending was incredible.
kinoki
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This is the best series in a long while. I can't wait until next episode. For next season I hope they adapt the Netflix standard of releasing every episode at the same time. This wait is unbearable.
pr0cs
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Man I love this show, the opening sequence is one of the most memorable sequences in recent TV memory for me.
I read a few reviews before the first show aired that suggested that the story starts to falter from episode to episode but I really haven't found that, if anything it seems to have gotten better. The first episode I really didn't like Rust, I found him a brooding nutjob but as the show went on I can understand his madness. I enjoyed how in this last episode he's more than willing to bring Martin into his madness to keep things moving forward.
I'm curious how the show ends, and if the same quality we've seen thus far can be replicated in a new season with new characters and story, I can't help think that it will be a difficult act to follow as McConaughey and Harrelson have been killing it IMO.
I read a few reviews before the first show aired that suggested that the story starts to falter from episode to episode but I really haven't found that, if anything it seems to have gotten better. The first episode I really didn't like Rust, I found him a brooding nutjob but as the show went on I can understand his madness. I enjoyed how in this last episode he's more than willing to bring Martin into his madness to keep things moving forward.
I'm curious how the show ends, and if the same quality we've seen thus far can be replicated in a new season with new characters and story, I can't help think that it will be a difficult act to follow as McConaughey and Harrelson have been killing it IMO.
brianjones
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i think we can all learn a thing or two from rust
BenjaminBirdie
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Wait I forget, what happened in 2002?
The Marty-Rust breakup.
Anton Sugar
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Their falling out.
Full ending sequence
Man, that's just an amazing sequence. Full six minutes and eleven seconds. Certainly raising the bar for cinematography for television, no matter what you think about the show compared to The Wire (spoiler: the two shows have nothing in common so stop comparing).
Man, that's just an amazing sequence. Full six minutes and eleven seconds. Certainly raising the bar for cinematography for television, no matter what you think about the show compared to The Wire (spoiler: the two shows have nothing in common so stop comparing).
The Artful Dodger
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They Both Have Cops. *Drops Mic*
blainethemono
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I was looking up the actor who plays Charlie Lange because I thought his performance was pretty awesome despite only having a few scenes, and I found this. Thought it was pretty interesting
Musician Fighting To Record an Album Before It's Too Late!
Musician Fighting To Record an Album Before It's Too Late!
Loved that scene. Rust was not having it at all. Pretty rare to see this sort of thing in a show. I'm too used to people getting into needless and petty arguments.
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