Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U Thread 5: Yarning for Yoshi

Jaeger said:
You are playing Project M, correct?
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The problem is a lot of brawl mods don't really work with Project M, and even if you get them to work they aren't balanced around project m's new physics/mechanics. Stages and music are pretty universal and I'm sure I'm not the only person who wants the project m physics, characters, and turbo with more traditional Smash style stages and less "like battlefield BUT" competitive levels.
 
BassForever said:
The problem is a lot of brawl mods don't really work with Project M, and even if you get them to work they aren't balanced around project m's new physics/mechanics. Stages and music are pretty universal and I'm sure I'm not the only person who wants the project m physics, characters, and turbo with more traditional Smash style stages and less "like battlefield BUT" competitive levels.
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You can have whatever stages you'd like, in Project M. And same for character (visual) mods. Unless you wan't to start changing up actual movesets, then that's a whole 'nother can o' worms. That's something that just doesn't work well in any environment, Project M's, or otherwise. It's never balanced. Kind of like MUGEN antics.

You can do move and visual mods, though. I just don't see why. =/

EDIT - Actually, I see that's what you were saying to begin with! But yea, you can add/remove stages in Project M.
 
Jaeger said:
You can have whatever stages you'd like, in Project M. And same for character (visual) mods. Unless you wan't to start changing up actual movesets, then that's a whole 'nother can o' worms. That's something that just doesn't work well in any environment, Project M's, or otherwise. It's never balanced. Kind of like MUGEN antics.

You can do move and visual mods, though. I just don't see why. =/
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I know the "new" characters aren't balanced and don't usually look that great, but if I'm going to mod a game it's going to be for something like that, not to have Mario have ice flower colors and have ice effects/sounds when he attacks. Alt colors/costumes don't do much for me where new characters and stages do. I totally plan to add more stages to project M and revert some stages back to their original version (like Warioware).
 
BassForever said:
I know the "new" characters aren't balanced and don't usually look that great, but if I'm going to mod a game it's going to be for something like that, not to have Mario have ice flower colors and have ice effects/sounds when he attacks. Alt colors/costumes don't do much for me where new characters and stages do. I totally plan to add more stages to project M and revert some stages back to their original version (like Warioware).
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I hear ya. I only put stuff in that fits, per say. Like alternate colors for Bowser (one is the Giga Bowser colors, for example). I also have Link in those badass Twighlight Princess tunics.

Also like you said, Music. ;)
 
Jaeger said:
i hear ya. I only put stuff in that fits, per say. Like alternate colors for Bowser (one is the Giga Bowser colors, for example). I also have Link in those badass Twighlight Princess tunics.

Also like you said, Music. ;)
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I will admit some of the alt costumes like Link's TP tunics would be sweet, but some of them look pretty blah. Being color blind alternate colors doesn't really do much for me outside of an obligatory black/red evil color for everyone
 
BassForever said:
I know the "new" characters aren't balanced and don't usually look that great, but if I'm going to mod a game it's going to be for something like that, not to have Mario have ice flower colors and have ice effects/sounds when he attacks. Alt colors/costumes don't do much for me where new characters and stages do. I totally plan to add more stages to project M and revert some stages back to their original version (like Warioware).
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If you're gonna do that, it's not gonna be Wi-Fi safe unless you know for sure the mods you're using are Wi-Fi safe.

You can easily change the motion pacs and add different character movesets, but a handful work with Project M.

At the moment for me, I'm happy with model/texture replacements, stage, and music. I also changed some Final Smashes and some movesets. I'm not in the business to create movesets from scratch as that takes too long for a university student like me.

Lucina over Vanilla Marth makes me happy enough.
 
BassForever said:
I know the "new" characters aren't balanced and don't usually look that great, but if I'm going to mod a game it's going to be for something like that, not to have Mario have ice flower colors and have ice effects/sounds when he attacks. Alt colors/costumes don't do much for me where new characters and stages do. I totally plan to add more stages to project M and revert some stages back to their original version (like Warioware).
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IF you really want to go all out with adding new characters check out BrawlEX Clone Engine
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shunxsato said:
If you're gonna do that, it's not gonna be Wi-Fi safe unless you know for sure the mods you're using are Wi-Fi safe.

You can easily change the motion pacs and add different character movesets, but a handful work with Project M.

At the moment for me, I'm happy with model/texture replacements, stage, and music. I also changed some Final Smashes and some movesets. I'm not in the business to create movesets from scratch as that takes too long for a university student like me.

Lucina over Vanilla Marth makes me happy enough.
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Not really worried about it being wifi safe lol this is for me and my buddies to play together and have fun.

While that Lucina mod looks awesome, I'd rather not replace Marth as he's been my main/favorite since Melee, I'd either place her over Roy or somehow use the below post to make her separate

Jagsrock said:
IF you really want to go all out with adding new characters check out BrawlEX Clone Engine
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Ugh my head hurts reading this, sounds cool though
 
BassForever said:
While that Lucina mod looks awesome, I'd rather not replace Marth as he's been my main/favorite since Melee, I'd either place her over Roy or somehow use the below post to make her separate
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The cool thing about the mods is, you actually only change one color/palette slot for mods. You can have 6 different mods per character, if you like.
 
shunxsato said:
If you're gonna do that, it's not gonna be Wi-Fi safe unless you know for sure the mods you're using are Wi-Fi safe.

You can easily change the motion pacs and add different character movesets, but a handful work with Project M.

At the moment for me, I'm happy with model/texture replacements, stage, and music. I also changed some Final Smashes and some movesets. I'm not in the business to create movesets from scratch as that takes too long for a university student like me.

Lucina over Vanilla Marth makes me happy enough.
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This sounds like my exact situation right down to the Lucina over Marth. My friends and I were highly involved with modding until we started on our Bachelor's degree.
 
You just replace one of Marth's costumes (unless it's one of those new new characters and not a texture mod, I imagine Lucina is the latter) though, so you can switch between both.

I got Project M, and I'm just goofing off with simple texture changes. Found an amazing Dixie one over Diddy, and a cool looking Laughing Dog for Olimar (flanked by Ducks!).
 
Jaeger said:
The cool thing about the mods is, you actually only change one color/palette slot for mods. You can have 6 different mods per character, if you like.
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Watch Da Birdie said:
You just replace one of Marth's costumes (unless it's one of those new new characters and not a texture mod, I imagine Lucina is the latter) though, so you can switch between both.

I got Project M, and I'm just goofing off with simple texture changes. Found an amazing Dixie one over Diddy, and a cool looking Laughing Dog for Olimar (flanked by Ducks!).
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Woah

Do they change the sounds as well or does Lucina sound manly?
 
Watch Da Birdie said:
You just replace one of Marth's costumes (unless it's one of those new new characters and not a texture mod, I imagine Lucina is the latter) though, so you can switch between both.

I got Project M, and I'm just goofing off with simple texture changes. Found an amazing Dixie one over Diddy, and a cool looking Laughing Dog for Olimar (flanked by Ducks!).
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Lucina is an import model, so it's just a replacement of the .pac and .pcs files.

@Bass forever

You can't use Lucina over Roy because the files are too big. If you want to get it to work, you're going to need to resize and reduce the quality of the textures to get it to work. But that would make it look ugly.

Roy's PM and Brawl limit is around 750kb for the files and anything larger than that, you'd need to swap with Marth.

They share the same hacks but Roy is a completely custom character and can only handle less.

On the topic of SSB4, I'd like Masked Lucina to be an alternate, sharing the same palette as Marth rather than Princess Lucina since you wouldn't want to spoil the game.

Plus it's as easy as putting a mask over Marth's face and making Lucina slightly thinner than Marth. If they do this, I have no doube we'll also get the Parallel Falchion for the alternate as well.

Lucina's taunt could be her pose in Ferox Arena, her turning away and taking the mask off, and a voiced taunt akin to her portrait cut ins during battle in FE Awakening.
 
GIF OF THE DAY:

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The Fox is a beautiful creature.
 
Watch Da Birdie said:
You just replace one of Marth's costumes (unless it's one of those new new characters and not a texture mod, I imagine Lucina is the latter) though, so you can switch between both.

I got Project M, and I'm just goofing off with simple texture changes. Found an amazing Dixie one over Diddy, and a cool looking Laughing Dog for Olimar (flanked by Ducks!).
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Sorry for the misinterpretation, I was doing a scenario comparison. The Lucina I have on Marth is a texture mod. I also have Palutena over Zelda and Rosalina over Peach as well many others. My favorite would have to be Billy Mays over Ganondorf.
 
shunxsato said:
Lucina is an import model, so it's just a replacement of the .pac and .pcs files.

@Bass forever

You can't use Lucina over Roy because the files are too big. If you want to get it to work, you're going to need to resize and reduce the quality of the textures to get it to work. But that would make it look ugly.

Roy's PM and Brawl limit is around 750kb for the files and anything larger than that, you'd need to swap with Marth.

They share the same hacks but Roy is a completely custom character and can only handle less.

On the topic of SSB4, I'd like Masked Lucina to be an alternate, sharing the same palette as Marth rather than Princess Lucina since you wouldn't want to spoil the game.

Plus it's as easy as putting a mask over Marth's face and making Lucina slightly thinner than Marth. If they do this, I have no doube we'll also get the Parallel Falchion for the alternate as well.

Lucina's taunt could be her pose in Ferox Arena, her turning away and taking the mask off, and a voiced taunt akin to her portrait cut ins during battle in FE Awakening.
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Id personally like for Chrom & Lucina to be one character on the roster. I also don't think spoilers matter so much since they had that Sheik transformation in Melee and you don't find out Sheik is Zelda until nearly endgame. Unlike Lucina which is mid game.
 
Watch Da Birdie said:
You just replace one of Marth's costumes (unless it's one of those new new characters and not a texture mod, I imagine Lucina is the latter) though, so you can switch between both.

I got Project M, and I'm just goofing off with simple texture changes. Found an amazing Dixie one over Diddy, and a cool looking Laughing Dog for Olimar (flanked by Ducks!).
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Every version of Lucina I've seen so far had a moveset included. ..
 
My Melee gif of the day

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Rare footage of Armada's Marth wrecking Leffen's Fox.

His Peach is insane, but holy crap Armada's red Marth gave me chills of seeing Ken in his glory days.

KHlover said:
Every version of Lucina I've seen so far had a moveset included. ..
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The newest model comes with masked short hair, short hair, masked long hair, long hair, and color palette swaps from Noire to Nowi to Gaius to Olivia. No moveset included.
 
Looking at that Marth gif makes me upset that I haven't gotten the hang of Ken Combos (once a staple in my play) in Project M as yet. :(
 
Yoshi's Story is SoCal's stage
Battlefield is NorCal's
Final Destination is apparently East Coast's?
who gets Pokemon Stadium, Fountain of Dreams, and Dreamland lol
 
theprodigy said:
Yoshi's Story is SoCal's stage
Battlefield is NorCal's
Final Destination is apparently East Coast's?
who gets Pokemon Stadium, Fountain of Dreams, and Dreamland lol
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I love Yoshi's Story. Based Randall, playing Marth and knowing that you can tipper anything anywhere on the stage, and Yoshi's Story music.
I still wish if Love Is In The Air was an official playlist song for the stage.

Tangent: Dreamland 64 is like the defacto Smash stage. Show me one person who doesn't like playing on it. The best version of Gourmet Race ever also supports this fact.
 
Eh I think no matter what the picture is, it'll be better than yesterday's.

That dog was basically mocking us, waiting around while staring at our screens hahah
 
TheLegendOfCap said:
Eh I think no matter what the picture is, it'll be better than yesterday's.

That dog was basically mocking us, waiting around while staring at our screens hahah
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When fans think that the Smash Bros. update can't be any more disappointing, Sakurai proves them wrong! Sakurai: "Leave it to me!"

I'm never gonna get over that
 
J@hranimo said:
I'm sure he knows that WE know that he's gonna reveal Diddy this week so until that day we may just get average to below-average pics.
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Or he might not even unveil Diddy on that day. Precisely because he knows we're conditioned to expect a pattern now. Sakura's a rat bastard, I tells ya, a real rat bastard!
 
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