cj_iwakura
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Fear.
La-Mulana 2 Kickstarter: We'll Show That You Don't Need Big Names To Make Money
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charlequin
Banned
Probably every single person who could get more than ten minutes into La-Mulana without crying uncle has already pledged.
I like the idea and the concept, but I'm just not that hardcore when it comes to these kinds of games. Perhaps a lot of other people aren't either. On top of that, I don't generally play games on my PC/Mac (except for Mass Effect). The stretch goals for console versions are way too far off.
Feels more like a "side-flipper" than a side-scroller to me.. I finally jumped on the La-Mulana bandwagon just a few weeks ago - And hated every second of it. I wanted to like it, but there just was no way (the touch the controller, flip the screen, instant respawn, that was one of the biggest turn-offs for me). I see the developer himself compare it to Dark Souls, which I have played 250-300 hours of, and completed several times..But I got no such feeling from it myself. La-Mulana feels a bit eccentric and niche, which doesn't exactly help when it comes to getting people to pledge for the sequel on Kickstarter.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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When do you think this will come out?
thetrin
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We're aiming for the end of 2015.
I love the way the game looks, but i never made any sort of progress. It is just too hard.
KojiKnight
Member
I'm a wimp, I never beat La Mulana, barely made it more than a few dozens of minutes in... I'm more interested in watching my favorite LPers tackle the game again.
A game like this will likely get quite a bit of money in once they are actually released, at least I certainly hope so.
A game like this will likely get quite a bit of money in once they are actually released, at least I certainly hope so.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Well good luck! That's a long wait!
I'll look forward to it!
I know it seems like a world away, but it's a pretty tight schedule compared to the time Nigoro had for La-Mulana 1. They're very much up to the challenge, though.
One thing we're very big on for La-Mulana 2 is designing the beginning such that we can bring new players up to the level of expertise required to play the rest of the game, which was one thing Nigoro admits was a big flaw in the first La-Mulana.
My newbie issues with La-Mulana were:
Unexpectedly triggering
Hard Mode
of having a random tablet trigger Hard Mode
The Holy Grail
there is a pit in the Sun Temple near the grail point thats pretty much impossible to get out of if you fall in and dont have the ability to warp. I fell into that problem once or twice before I learned how to activate the grail points.
Thought it was worth mentioning, but Shuhei Yoshida just backed the kickstarter https://mobile.twitter.com/yosp/status/434646199207866369 pretty cool of him.
Jimmyfenix
Member
Yeah saw that as well. Pretty awesome of him to back it!
I don't think this game is as popular as you might think. It has a decent following, but nothing like say, Cave Story. Plus indie developers have oversaturated us with 8/16 bit style platformers since that game came out. That or people are just sick of Kickstarting videogames.
Yeah even on a supernerd forum like GAF La-Mulana just doesn't come up in conversation much.
Stupid holy grail. I beat two or three bosses before I accidentally read how to get it in the guide. (I didn't want to spoil myself.) That puzzle was just poorly designed; the red herring at the bottom of the pit, the poorly worded hint on the other end of the map, and the lack of a logical connection between the two.
I would have but I don't have a Windows computer. This would have got a lot more attention if it was definitely coming to consoles instead of being a distant stretch goal.
cpp_is_king
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Especially considering the new console generation is so similar architecturally to PCs. PC + Next Gen Console should have been the baseline, all available at $200k. It's a very small effort to port from PC to PS4 / Xbox One, they wouldn't even need to outsource. But I guess they are historically a PC shop, and didn't know this.
FreddieQuell
Member
So are La-Mulana fans super-mega-turbonerds?
Robert J. Sullivan
Member
Too bad I can't back. I'll buy the game as soon as it hits Steam though, same as La-Mulana 1.
Brianimaniac
Banned
I'm terrible at the last one and didn't play much of it. If I want more La-Mulana, most of the last one is still unplayed, so I don't need to buy another.
Lots of Kickstarters also tend to use the platforms I own as stretch goals. I don't have or want a PC. If I donated, I would never get to play the game I funded.
cj_iwakura
Member
It's kind of sad they have so much to show and are barely making the goal, whereas a KS with almost nothing to show made 600k.
The difficulty and expense with consoles isn't porting to different architectures, it's going through the licensing/QA/cert process. PS4 and XB1 wouldn't really be much if any easier to realize than the other systems for a low performance game like this.
I suppose that's the effect of word of mouth (sadly)
Robert J. Sullivan
Member
The OST is boss, as expected.
EDIT : looks like it's a bonus track from La-Mulana 1
.I'm looking forward to the sequel's soundtrack.
kunonabi
Member
the console/handheld stretch goals are too far away for me to consider it.
Hopefully there will be a sizable surge in the last day. Still working through the first game, but its the best platformer I have played in years.
The game has a slow and meticulous pace. It's barely into development, they are mocking up full areas already. Unlike AAA games that need to be easily marketable this game will be introducing highly complex puzzle systems and not just easily conveyed gimmicks.
The game has a slow and meticulous pace. It's barely into development, they are mocking up full areas already. Unlike AAA games that need to be easily marketable this game will be introducing highly complex puzzle systems and not just easily conveyed gimmicks.
I'm sure there will be and it still has six more days to raise around $3,000, which I don't think should be a problem at all
Soo... while we're waiting for the sequel, can anyone recommend a game that'll fill the gaping hole left after completing the original?
Preferably a challenging platformer/metroidvania. I tried Spelunky, but it did nothing for me. Aquaria doesn't look very exciting either. Man even with all it's flaws, La Mulana really did scratch quite the itch for me.
Preferably a challenging platformer/metroidvania. I tried Spelunky, but it did nothing for me. Aquaria doesn't look very exciting either. Man even with all it's flaws, La Mulana really did scratch quite the itch for me.
cj_iwakura
Member
Prinny is fantastic if you have a PSP.
DXLelouch153
Banned
Valdis Story
just dont go full luck or int as it breaks the game super hard
especially with Reina
I can't think of anything quite like La Mulana. From a pure mechanical POV, the Dizzy games are sort of in the same ballpark, but they have nothing like the scale (but more of a focus on adventure game puzzles, for the most part). Chuckie Egg 2 has the scale, but is fairly simple in presentation.
Mind you, one game I've never played is the game La Mulana is inspired by, Maze of Galious. That might fit the bill. Also possible are Falcom's Xanadu games, of which a few can be found in English (and I keep trying to make doe eyes at XSeed and/or Carpe Fulgur about the PC versions)
Edit: I've just thought of Ricochet on the BBC, which is similarish, but has a level-based structure and a more puzzly means of getting around (You have to rebound off the floor to move); There's another platform puzzler with a lot of unique setpieces in the form of Imogen on the BBC, with a remake here. There's a few BBC games, actually. Possibly Citadel, possibly Palace of Magic, possibly Quest.
I think that's the most distinctive aspect of La Mulana, and therefore the thing that makes it hardest to find comparisons to: Ordinarily with a platform puzzler you learn basic mechanics that might get more advanced over time but everything boils down to the base mechanics of the game in the end. La Mulana, on the other hand, is full of unique setpiece encounters and puzzles that don't share mechanics with anything else; it doesn't conform to a rulebook.
theMrCravens
Member
Party on people!
We're getting a new La-Mulana !
We're getting a new La-Mulana !
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Yay, congrats Nigoro!
lol, where is that from? So perfectly fitting.
Hours Left
Member
Woot! Now bring out the big guns and go for those stretch goals! 
