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I'm not hung up. :p I'm completely sure with what I want haha. And that is no relationships. Just family and friends. I'm gonna go make some Italian and French friends! Or something. Gonna go hang out in Paris and Rome. :D
Then why do you hang out on Dating-Age? Or the OkCupid thread before that?
 
If I couldn't succeed with a girl that was completely into me and shared all the same dorky interests then what chance do I have with someone else? Especially considering most people aren't complete nerds.

Dude. I run into it all the time and have luck that's every bit as bad as yours. Only I'm very outgoing/social, and it still doesn't help me on this front. One woman even came back to my place to make out, two days in a row, and still gave me the cold shoulder with no real reason why. This was about two weeks ago.

I just shrug my shoulders and move on. Which isn't easy because I don't have any other prospects right now, but it's cool, I consider it a success. As for you, you managed to go on a date! That's progress. So what you didn't find your soul mate, use that momentum to go out again and again until you eventually do find someone. Personally, I recommend going out next time with no real agenda. Just enjoy your time with someone new. If you set up all these expectations, you're stressing yourself out over what should be an enjoyable experience.

But I still like you guys. :p

Even me?!
 
If I couldn't succeed with a girl that was completely into me and shared all the same dorky interests then what chance do I have with someone else? Especially considering most people aren't complete nerds.

You'd be surprised at what non-uber nerdy girls are attracted to, and also how attractive a girl who isn't exactly like you can be. There are a million different flavors of girls out there, give both them and yourself the benefit of the doubt where attraction is involved.
 
I'm a huge nerd (game, have comic books from way back, laugh at internet jokes, etc...) and out of all the girls I've attracted, only one of them would be considered a real nerd. Some of the others had nerdy qualities but not nearly as much as me. Hell, some of them were even hardcore party girls.

Its actually more fun to find a girl that isn't like you. I realized over time that I wouldn't necessarily want to date a gamer who posts on GAF and laughs at memes all day. Because then I'd be dating myself.
 
I only enjoy playing with myself, nothing else! :D

On a serious note, I think its best when a girl is different than me to the point where she introduces something new into my life. Back in the day all I did for fun was gaming and basketball. Then I met a girl who clubbed nonstop and suddenly I realized I liked going out and partying. Because of that my attitude changed, I became more social, and in a way molded into the person I am right now. Suddenly I was dressing nicer, learning some basic dance moves to have fun, and even drinking a lot for the first time. I consider these to be important socialization skills for people within our age group. So yeah, even though this girl was really wrong for me and hates my guts today, I benefited greatly.

Moral of the story: don't always seek what's comfortable and safe.
 
I've been thinking about this a lot today and I've gotta rant a bit, describe you my situation and hopefully get some advice. I'm not trying to make excuses, lie or any bs like that I've been annoyed since last night and gotta get it of my chest. Also if you're from here and have opposite experience PM me.

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I think the issue is you are trying to wedge PUA culture into a traditional society like yours.
Most PUA "gurus" come from Canada, which is a multi-racial society and where women have a good degree of emancipation. Most PUAs are active in Austin, L.A and NYC, which again are not exactly the most traditional and conservative of places.
You are trying to pull girls for one night stands in a country where religion is still a big part in people's lives and where I'm sure you get pretty frequent "crimes of passion" on the news.
Most of all, I think the problem is in your lone-wolfing, which is great (and admirable) when it comes to so-called day game but is IMO counterproductive in clubs.
In traditional society people tend to go out in groups, not only because it's more fun but also because when you are having fun it's very likely you are more susceptible to get into trouble: a guy can get drunk and end up in a fight and get stabbed, a girl can end up completely drunk (or stoned) in the company of some sleazy douche. Your friends are there to make sure you make the most out of the fun and that you incur in the least of problems.
As for this myth of "grass is greener on the other side": this is in my opinion not true. I have travelled my fair bit and I have a bunch of friends who live abroad, and yes when it comes to brief affairs you will have an easier time in a foreign country, but in the end as soon as you get in a relationship guys and girls all act the same in every part of the world. This thread is proof of it: people from all over the globe, coming from different countries but with the same issues in relationships.
Poland is in my opinion not very different from the situation you describe, but I only know of Poland because there's a big polish community where I live, and of course people who are away from their own country tend to look at it with heart-shaped glasses. Guys are tough as nails and girls are very religious.
I think that's the reason why serbians fall so bad for your princesses, as you say. The club scene is chock-full of guys and girls who are into one night stands, but then who they choose for a long term relationship? the people they used to see in clubs? no, they go for the "good guy" and the "good girl", the ones who they believe will be more loyal and more controllable because they have less experience.
Your best bet is to find a group of guys who are constantly going to clubs and to get in their ranks. If you are able to not judge them on what they do, and you won't mind to get a girl you were talking to taken away right under your nose from one of them, you'll learn a lot. It's either that or going to a foreign country: if you feel "out-of-place" dating wise, I'd say this will recur in other aspects of your life. There's a lot of similarities between what you describe there and what I see here in Italy: people are generally social and outgoing and for them it's very difficult to relate to introverts and nerd culture. Unless you want to live in another country, there isn't much you can do to change the situation.

While i don't think you're wrong, you seem to define "romantic relationship" mainly, if not only with "sex". I think there's much more to it, when it comes to feelings and intimate moments, and I absolutely understand if people don't want to be (or can't just switch to) "just friends" with a Person they love in a romantic way.

I'm not sure I get your point 2) either ^^

"Friendzone" is a crappy word though.

Well, english is not my first language so I guess I got too convoluted, but basically what I meant is that when guys say they liked a girl "for her smile" and "personality" those things would still be accessible to them in a friendship. If a friendship isn't "enough", then I guess it wasn't really their "personality" and their "smile" they were into.
Also, all my theories were related to a guy meeting a girl, hugging/kissing/dating for a while and then getting the "I see us as friends" situation. Being friends with an ex is a whole different matter, since it has to take into account the relationship's history and its past dynamics. And that's a beast I'm not going to tackle ;D
When a guy gets hang up on someone they don't know and they want more than just being friends, that's a black and white issue to me.
 
date #6 tonight :)

only problem so far is that it's really hard to read whether she wants me to get very physical or not. and i don't like being pushy. so far all we've done is kissed. which is not a huge deal to me, i just hope she's not secretly wondering what i'm waiting for
 
date #6 tonight :)

only problem so far is that it's really hard to read whether she wants me to get very physical or not. and i don't like being pushy. so far all we've done is kissed. which is not a huge deal to me, i just hope she's not secretly wondering what i'm waiting for

Have you kissed more than the first kiss that you felt was kind of awkward? Has it gotten less awkward? Had a full on make-out session yet? I usually find when you get to that point, the person is ready to take the physical activity to the next level.

Good luck, relax and have fun! :)
 
Personally, I wanted to leap across the coffee table and wrestle the last girl I had a first-date with. Had we met a second time...I would have (its much less scary than it sounds, hahaha). Anyway, if you see that there's flirting going on between you or that she's more comfortable in terms of touching you, go for it! I don't think you'll strike out. Its date #6, she clearly likes you.
 
By date #6 you should definitely be ready to get things a little more physical. I'm not one to put a timeline on when you sleep together, I always let that develop naturally. But a this point she's probably waiting for you to make a bolder move.
 
You wait too long to initiate physically, it can be misinterpreted as there not being any attraction on your end.

Honestly without the physical side, how is it any different from hangout with a friend at that point?
 
Yea at this point its jsut wayyyy to long

Even by 3rd it was a little long

Its only going to get more awkward the longer u wait
 
Been seeing someone for a few weeks, and we're taking our time on it - well, I got called away from a dinner of ours for some work and had to make a quick trip out - and when I got back, she demanded that she smell my dick. Is this normal behavior for people? That's a little too stalkerish and weird considering that we aren't an official THING by any means. Initially I didn't know wtf she wanted to do that for but then I figured it out.
 
Been seeing someone for a few weeks, and we're taking our time on it - well, I got called away from a dinner of ours for some work and had to make a quick trip out - and when I got back, she demanded that she smell my dick. Is this normal behavior for people? That's a little too stalkerish and weird considering that we aren't an official THING by any means. Initially I didn't know wtf she wanted to do that for but then I figured it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgWgEoaAYDY
 
The reason she couldn't hang Saturday was that her parents were coming into town and when I asked if she wanted to go to this other party thing (which was more of a nightclub sort of) friday she said she should probably just stay home and clean up her place before her parents got there. Idk what other reasons she would have for wanting to come to the first party and then not the next one, she doesn't know my roommates and certainly not their friends, and she'd have been getting drunk at both.

Then for Lego movie she said she already had plans to go see it with her friends that same night.

To me at least, both sound like reasonable and believable excuses. She would have been down for a chill house party thing but maybe not a packed club when she has to get up early to meet her parents. And then she very well could have been going to the movies with her friends.

And she's usually the one initiating all of the text/facebook convos we have on weekends. Idk, I think I'll follow the rule of threes and give it one last shot before giving up.

Yup, only you can feel what's going on. I think many responses are too cynical. I think they're reading too much into her not reading enough into it, if that makes sense. They seem like reasonable excuses. But it's still true that if she wanted to hang out with you, she'd see to it that it happened. But hey, you might also not be at the point where anyone's really THAT interested that they'll give a leg and a limb for a chance. I see no problem with asking once more, especially if you feel natural about it. Just sounds healthy. There's no need to bottle up unresolved emotions, so rather ask and get a definite answer as to whether she likes you or not once and for all, than to 'save face' and 'get out'.

Without knowing the situation, it's could be both ways, so trust your own instincts. That's the only way you'll be able to calibrate them to serve you purpose, rather than trying to save yourself.
 
Been seeing someone for a few weeks, and we're taking our time on it - well, I got called away from a dinner of ours for some work and had to make a quick trip out - and when I got back, she demanded that she smell my dick. Is this normal behavior for people? That's a little too stalkerish and weird considering that we aren't an official THING by any means. Initially I didn't know wtf she wanted to do that for but then I figured it out.
Holy shit, smell yo dick is based on real life?!

Uh... I don't know about you, but unless this girl was joking and said it in the most hilarious way, I'd bounce.
 
Been seeing someone for a few weeks, and we're taking our time on it - well, I got called away from a dinner of ours for some work and had to make a quick trip out - and when I got back, she demanded that she smell my dick. Is this normal behavior for people? That's a little too stalkerish and weird considering that we aren't an official THING by any means. Initially I didn't know wtf she wanted to do that for but then I figured it out.

So, you're at the beginning of a relationship, excused yourself from a dinner because you had to go in to work. Then when you got back she asked.. nay, demanded to smell your dick? If this wasn't a poor excuse or bad joke to get in your pants, I'd say "bail". Now, I'm not just gonna say "GET OUUUT", I'm going to try and point out that this is not a good foundation for a relationship. If you're an honorable person (I have no idea) that went to work (I have no idea) and properly excused yourself (I have no idea), then this kind of behaviour is a very bad sign. If she can't trust you in the beginning of your relationship, it's really just going to get worse. Because, she'll find something. If you don't fuck up by responding "sure, that'd be nice!" to a female friend wanting to meet you, and she finds it one night when she's going through your phone, she'll misconstrue something else you've done to suit her expectations.

That kind of fundamental lack of trust is not something you should build a relationship on. Try and talk with her. If that doesn't work, I'd say your relationship is doomed.
 
Holy shit, smell yo dick is based on real life?!

Uh... I don't know about you, but unless this girl was joking and said it in the most hilarious way, I'd bounce.

Imagine my surprise. I guess that's a thing people do, some people, I don't know. Still, I gave her a noseful.

I'm probably done anyway for other reasons though.
 
Yup, only you can feel what's going on. I think many responses are too cynical. I think they're reading too much into her not reading enough into it, if that makes sense. They seem like reasonable excuses. But it's still true that if she wanted to hang out with you, she'd see to it that it happened. But hey, you might also not be at the point where anyone's really THAT interested that they'll give a leg and a limb for a chance. I see no problem with asking once more, especially if you feel natural about it. Just sounds healthy. There's no need to bottle up unresolved emotions, so rather ask and get a definite answer as to whether she likes you or not once and for all, than to 'save face' and 'get out'.
I'd agree in a general case, but the way he said he'd wait a couple of weeks and try again suggests to me that subconsciously he knows it's not too likely.
 
Erryone! I just like watching you all and cheering you on for successes and stuff haha. It's fun! :p



Nice is all I have...lol

I wouldn't agree about nice being everything you have, but I know plenty of people here have told you that. There are plenty of things that seem fun about you.
 
Cause I like you guys :p

But really, I thought I wanted something, but I've just come to realize I don't.

But I still like you guys. :p

Understanding what you want is the best thing. No wasting your time with bullshit. Right on.
 
Been seeing someone for a few weeks, and we're taking our time on it - well, I got called away from a dinner of ours for some work and had to make a quick trip out - and when I got back, she demanded that she smell my dick. Is this normal behavior for people? That's a little too stalkerish and weird considering that we aren't an official THING by any means. Initially I didn't know wtf she wanted to do that for but then I figured it out.

If you're being serious, I would dump that 'relationship' immediately. That's fucked up.
 
Been seeing someone for a few weeks, and we're taking our time on it - well, I got called away from a dinner of ours for some work and had to make a quick trip out - and when I got back, she demanded that she smell my dick. Is this normal behavior for people? That's a little too stalkerish and weird considering that we aren't an official THING by any means. Initially I didn't know wtf she wanted to do that for but then I figured it out.

Lol holy crap.
 
I failed you GAF. I don't know if anyone remembers my situation with with the rich girl who has only dated rich guys. I told myself I was gonna ask her out today to get it over with but I couldn't do it. I don't feel comfortable doing it unless we're alone which is never. But that's just an excuse and I know it. Dammit. Every time she calls me "papi" my heart melts.
 
I failed you GAF. I don't know if anyone remembers my situation with with the rich girl who has only dated rich guys. I told myself I was gonna ask her out today to get it over with but I couldn't do it. I don't feel comfortable doing it unless we're alone which is never. But that's just an excuse and I know it. Dammit. Every time she calls me "papi" my heart melts.
bro, what the fuck.

I will say this, if you arent willing to ask her out, drop this infatuation you have with her. Nothing good is going to come from that shit.
 
i'm currently stuck between two girls. i'm 22.

girl A: loves to have fun (dancing, drinking, down for anything), 23, fantastic body, daughter of a professional football coach, has 2 bachelor's (one in engineering, other in something else), and is working on her masters in linguistics while getting ready for med school, works out and generally knows what she wants to do with life. she's really outgoing and very much stands up for herself and doesn't take shit. it's kind of hard for me to talk to her 1 on 1 because it doesn't seem like she has much to say (nerves?) twerks with the best of them.

girl B: also really fun to be with, body isn't nearly as good, doesn't really exercise (altho she did just get a membership at my gym), pre-med, connect a little bit better with her imo, 18.

i would choose girl B but for a few things: A is sexier. like, way sexier. also, B was raped and has some weird emotional and physical issues, although it seems like we are mostly past them. and girl B is 18. i'm 22 and will be 23 this year. she just graduated hs in 2013. should that even matter? i have had sex with both of them, multiple times, and it was great on both counts.

anyways i just want to know what you guys think. who would you choose?
 
I failed you GAF. I don't know if anyone remembers my situation with with the rich girl who has only dated rich guys. I told myself I was gonna ask her out today to get it over with but I couldn't do it. I don't feel comfortable doing it unless we're alone which is never. But that's just an excuse and I know it. Dammit. Every time she calls me "papi" my heart melts.

Lol, either do it or not Man. THe Failure is sitting around debating whether you should or shouldn't. Don't come down on yourself too much, just make a decision and stick to your guns.
 
i'm currently stuck between two girls. i'm 22.

girl A: loves to have fun (dancing, drinking, down for anything), 23, fantastic body, daughter of a professional football coach, has 2 bachelor's (one in engineering, other in something else), and is working on her masters in linguistics while getting ready for med school, works out and generally knows what she wants to do with life. she's really outgoing and very much stands up for herself and doesn't take shit. it's kind of hard for me to talk to her 1 on 1 because it doesn't seem like she has much to say (nerves?) twerks with the best of them.

girl B: also really fun to be with, body isn't nearly as good, doesn't really exercise (altho she did just get a membership at my gym), pre-med, connect a little bit better with her imo, 18.

i would choose girl B but for a few things: A is sexier. like, way sexier. also, B was raped and has some weird emotional and physical issues, although it seems like we are mostly past them. and girl B is 18. i'm 22 and will be 23 this year. she just graduated hs in 2013. should that even matter? i have had sex with both of them, multiple times, and it was great on both counts.

anyways i just want to know what you guys think. who would you choose?

Seems to me like girl A is the more stable choice.. plus she's hotter.
 
i'm currently stuck between two girls. i'm 22.

girl A: loves to have fun (dancing, drinking, down for anything), 23, fantastic body, daughter of a professional football coach, has 2 bachelor's (one in engineering, other in something else), and is working on her masters in linguistics while getting ready for med school, works out and generally knows what she wants to do with life. she's really outgoing and very much stands up for herself and doesn't take shit. it's kind of hard for me to talk to her 1 on 1 because it doesn't seem like she has much to say (nerves?) twerks with the best of them.

girl B: also really fun to be with, body isn't nearly as good, doesn't really exercise (altho she did just get a membership at my gym), pre-med, connect a little bit better with her imo, 18.

i would choose girl B but for a few things: A is sexier. like, way sexier. also, B was raped and has some weird emotional and physical issues, although it seems like we are mostly past them. and girl B is 18. i'm 22 and will be 23 this year. she just graduated hs in 2013. should that even matter? i have had sex with both of them, multiple times, and it was great on both counts.

anyways i just want to know what you guys think. who would you choose?

Sounds like A is the winner.

In regardless to the age difference with B. Don't worry about it.
 
i'm currently stuck between two girls. i'm 22.

girl A: loves to have fun (dancing, drinking, down for anything), 23, fantastic body, daughter of a professional football coach, has 2 bachelor's (one in engineering, other in something else), and is working on her masters in linguistics while getting ready for med school, works out and generally knows what she wants to do with life. she's really outgoing and very much stands up for herself and doesn't take shit. it's kind of hard for me to talk to her 1 on 1 because it doesn't seem like she has much to say (nerves?) twerks with the best of them.

girl B: also really fun to be with, body isn't nearly as good, doesn't really exercise (altho she did just get a membership at my gym), pre-med, connect a little bit better with her imo, 18.

i would choose girl B but for a few things: A is sexier. like, way sexier. also, B was raped and has some weird emotional and physical issues, although it seems like we are mostly past them. and girl B is 18. i'm 22 and will be 23 this year. she just graduated hs in 2013. should that even matter? i have had sex with both of them, multiple times, and it was great on both counts.

anyways i just want to know what you guys think. who would you choose?

Are you kidding??? A!!! And it has nothing to do with the body thing.
 
I wouldn't agree about nice being everything you have, but I know plenty of people here have told you that. There are plenty of things that seem fun about you.

I'm just joking around. Haha. IT'S ALL ANY CANADIAN HAS OKAY? NICENESS AND ICE. And poutine.

Understanding what you want is the best thing. No wasting your time with bullshit. Right on.

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bro, what the fuck.

I will say this, if you arent willing to ask her out, drop this infatuation you have with her. Nothing good is going to come from that shit.

Yeah now I'm pissed. I don't know why the fuck I do this to myself. It would put my mind in such ease getting it over with. It would make seeing her every other day mean a lot less.
 
The weird thing about "let me smell your dick" is that we'd never had sex either.
 
Doesn't matter. She was trying to smell pussy on your dick. Although, this is assuming you didn't shower.

She smelled nothing, I'm not the cheating type. Learned my lesson early in life, will NEVER cheat again!
 
The weird thing about "let me smell your dick" is that we'd never had sex either.

That should be your tag. It's too funny. But yeah, I would be creeped out by that as well if a girl told me that. It's so random. Never heard of a dude telling a girl to let him smell her crotch.
 
i'm currently stuck between two girls. i'm 22.

girl A: loves to have fun (dancing, drinking, down for anything), 23, fantastic body, daughter of a professional football coach, has 2 bachelor's (one in engineering, other in something else), and is working on her masters in linguistics while getting ready for med school, works out and generally knows what she wants to do with life. she's really outgoing and very much stands up for herself and doesn't take shit. it's kind of hard for me to talk to her 1 on 1 because it doesn't seem like she has much to say (nerves?) twerks with the best of them.
What the what? How is that possible?
 
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