Mental Health |OT| Depression & Co.

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Why do people suck so bad at understanding depression? To feel like shit and then have someone wave it off or something else is just so crushing. I don't get it, even people who go to those like trevor and suicide prevention things seem to be utterly clueless when it comes to depression or what it means. It feels like having one of those trust exercises where they catch you but instead they miss and smack face first into the pavement.

I feel ya man... I feel ya...

If you can get a therapist for one on ones, do so, preferably someone who can't prescribe pills.

CBT is something that has helped when I've been depressed, and I mean like when the really bad, self harming thoughts pop in.

Most people just don't get depression. It's one of those things where you feel like you're trapped in a room with 4walls, a ceiling, and a floor while the room collapses into itself an inch at a time.
 
Fuck me, I got pulled over for speeding again. Luckily the officer only gave me a warning. There wasn't a speed limit sign posted nearby, so it's not like he had a case. He asked me if I had been arrested/ticketed for dope. ??? He also asked me about my ticket from a few weeks ago which was awkward.
 
Had my first CBT lecture yesterday ...... mainly went over stuff I already knew really, about not getting into those crippling thought cycles, and to actually do stuff rather than shy away from it. Don't know what to think yet really, will just carry on with it.

Then had a family wedding today, and all the things that make me miserable came into play, feeling completely awkward, anxious as crazy, unable to relax, enjoy myself, be social, have a laugh with people yada yada. Its like I am completely unable to do these things. Couldn't really drink either as i had man flu and had been taking pills, not that drink does anything for me these days either, don't seem to get a "buzz" from it anymore these days.

In other news, I finally have a "promotion" of sorts at my job. Out of the call center and being trained into being a field service engineer (or, going around fixing printers and other things). My own van, laptop, mobile phone, and just get up and go do the jobs i am given, could be good :) Extra money wont hurt either. Although in the back of my head i still think the only thing I am remotely good at is "work", everything else not so much.

Might be able to afford my own place hopefully with these new role .....
 
Those who know me well know that I've been struggling with a phantom illness with no cure that has only been getting worse over the years. It has taken my life away from me, one piece at a time, despite a valiant (albeit often dramatic) struggle. The doctors are useless, sometimes condescending and just throw potent drugs with even more potent side-effects to attempt to try and smother symptoms. They don't work and often just make things worse.

At a hellish trip to the grocery store last night, I had to rest three times in between filling my cart, held in my tears from the pain while waiting in line (standing in place is the worst for some reason. Makes my feet and shoulders burn horrifically) and then, struggled to lift these bags up two flights of stairs. Once I made it to the apartment, I dropped the bags and started crying. I got my food but was it worth it?

I was already having a dreadful month, where I'd fought with a bunch of people I loved, struggled with adjusting to a new medicine (which of course, does nothing), suffered through two nearly unbearable flares (in the middle of the second right now, oh joy of joys) and just haven't been holding it together as well as I'd like. And I feel so goddamned alone because no one can relate to this at all. They can relate to depression, sure. And who wouldn't be depressed in circumstances such as this?

I get lots of support for the depression but excruciating, chronic pain? It's like I live in a different world from the healthy, from the ones who actually can go to the grocery store and not feel like they're passing on to the next life. And the fatigue? Sweet Jesus. It always feels like I have the flu, no matter how much pain I'm in. That sickish, exhausted feeling that makes it sometimes impossible to get out of bed or even lift your head to look at the television.

The one thing that I've been trying to hold on to is my apartment. I've a very solitary person and when I'm in pain (which I always am, to varying degrees of misery), I want to be left alone. They're my goddamned fucking tears and I refuse to let anyone see them. And financially, it has been very treacherous. I simply don't get enough income from the government to maintain where I live (I'm below the poverty level) and sudden expenditures always happen (especially with my goddamned car) so my savings is getting steadily depleted. I know there's nothing left once it's gone so that scares me. But it doesn't really matter all that much because it's becoming very clear that I simply can't take care of myself any longer. I can't maintain my apartment, which is invaded with dust, dirt, and food particles. I can't maintain myself, as evidenced by the grocery incident. Other needed trips are similarly impossible. When I sold my last car, my mom had to do all the work because I couldn't drive out there myself at the time. I'm still waiting to hear back from mental health on my therapy but it doesn't matter because nine times out of ten, I'll be in too much pain to go. Simply getting into the shower these days requires a herculean effort.

Ordinarily, I'd move in with my mom, in a town I hate and we'd proceed to kill each other because I'm the solitary type and she desperately wants to help, at any cost. But she got diagnosed with the same illness a few months ago (albeit at a lesser severity, for now) and already suffers from bad arthritis. She's retiring soon and together, we wouldn't have enough money to maintain her rental house. She currently lives in and maintains my grandma's house, which is really only big enough for her. The only other offer is with my buddy Bob and his wife. I've known him for most of my life (since I was 10) and his wife in particular would push to take me in. But their place isn't large, their basement still isn't fixed up after a flood and it's a really uncertain situation. Moving in with friends (especially married ones) is ordinarily a dicey situation but with my health being the way it is? I'm a very heavy burden being pushed on other people to take care of. I don't want that. Worse, I'm basically tethering myself to them so every decision they make about their future requires a concession. What if they ever decide to move? Or have a family?

The decision I have to make is whether this is all worth fighting for. People make these grand statements about life (hell, I've read a few in recent GAF threads) about how amazing it can be and how it's so much better than being dead. I beg to differ. Take away your health, take away your dreams, take away your chance to fall in love, have kids, have a family, have a career, to travel and stick yourself in someone's basement for the rest of your life to rot and you'll see just how much worse than death life can get. I'm also very aware that I'm not going to get any healthier as I age, even putting aside the progressive nature of the illness. I can't even imagine fighting cancer or something else nasty while just trying to get through the usual misery that I've been fighting for the last decade. Friends and family make the usual platitudes, about how there's still a chance if you keep fighting but they're not the ones living it. It's very easy to make blanket statements when you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about.

I'm not afraid to die. At least, not much. It's just that once I'm dead, that's it. It's over. It's a decision that has to be made with the utmost of delicacy because there are no second chances, no do-overs. It just makes me sick that circumstances and fate have pushed me into a position where this is actually a rational, logical choice to be made.
 
I'm sorry to hear you are going through such a rough time at the minute. Try and get some rest if you can. What is it that's bothering you in particular,(if you don't mind talking about it) is there anyway things could be made less stressful for you?

Some times I just get into moods, but I think it is related to my Type 1 Diabetes and Celiac Disease. Both associated with fatigue, and Diabetes is associated with depression and I have a family history of depression. I'm not entirely happy with my life right now, my job or where I live, but it could be a lot worse. It just seems to get amplified randomly and kills my brain for an entire week.

Then I get depressed for feeling depressed, or mad for getting angry at stupid things. It just feeds itself.
 
Does anyone here know C programming? Nobody in that programming thread wants to help me. And I'm really pissed off because no one wants to answer my question. They probably thought I'm dumb ass who couldn't answer an easy question.
 
Does anyone here know C programming? Nobody in that programming thread wants to help me. And I'm really pissed off because no one wants to answer my question. They probably thought I'm dumb ass who couldn't answer an easy question.
If it's intro-level stuff I can try helping out.
 
Does anyone here know C programming? Nobody in that programming thread wants to help me. And I'm really pissed off because no one wants to answer my question. They probably thought I'm dumb ass who couldn't answer an easy question.

I havent been in there in a bit but I'll answer here instead. I should add I that I wouldn't take it personally. Sometimes the smaller simpler questions get overlooked completely by accident. It's happened to me before.

I need help on printing an enclosed quote with my first name in it for C programming.

I only know how to do it as long it was a string of sequences something like this:

printf("\"Hello World!\"");

How do that for this prompt:
printf("%s", firstName); //Also, I'm using scanf to get the user's first name.

Same way you did the first one. The %s is just a "placeholder" for the variable in the quotes.

So instead of "\"Hello World\"", %s is used to format the firstName character array.

so printf("\"%s\"", firstName); should work.
 
JB, I'm really sorry that your life has put you in this place. I didn't know much about your condition, and I can say your situation is definitely more difficult than I can imagine.

You always come across as a good guy, so it's tough to see you have these struggles, and it's hard to think of things to say. Your perseverance is not going unnoticed, and is inspiring to keep positive no matter what.

I'm happy to hear you do have your childhood friend as an option. It's painful to look at yourself in a negative light, but take it more that they are willing to help you because you're the good person you are. I hope you can take some light out of that.

Gah I don't think what I'm trying to say is coming across too well. I really hope things become easier soon.
 
New Order - True Faith
I feel so extraordinary
Something's got a hold on me
I get this feeling I'm in motion
A sudden sense of liberty
I don't care 'cause I'm not there
And I don't care if I'm here tomorrow

Again and again I've taken too much
Of the things that cost you too much
I used to think that the day would never come
I'd see delight in the shade of the morning sun
My morning sun is the drug that brings me near
To the childhood I lost, replaced by fear
I used to think that the day would never come
That my life would depend on the morning sun...

When I was a very small boy,
Very small boys talked to me
Now that we've grown up together
They're afraid of what they see
That's the price that we all pay
Our valued destiny comes to nothing
I can't tell you where we're going
I guess there was just no way of knowing
I used to think that the day would never come
I'd see delight in the shade of the morning sun
My morning sun is the drug that brings me near
To the childhood I lost, replaced by fear
I used to think that the day would never come
That my life would depend on the morning sun...

I feel so extraordinary
Something's got a hold on me
I get this feeling I'm in motion
A sudden sense of liberty
The chances are we've gone too far
You took my time and you took my money
Now I fear you've left me standing
In a world that's so demanding
I used to think that the day would never come
I'd see delight in the shade of the morning sun
My morning sun is the drug that brings me near
To the childhood I lost, replaced by fear
I used to think that the day would never come
That my life would depend on the morning sun...
 
Those who know me well know that I've been struggling with a phantom illness with no cure that has only been getting worse over the years. It has taken my life away from me, one piece at a time, despite a valiant (albeit often dramatic) struggle. The doctors are useless, sometimes condescending and just throw potent drugs with even more potent side-effects to attempt to try and smother symptoms. They don't work and often just make things worse.

At a hellish trip to the grocery store last night, I had to rest three times in between filling my cart, held in my tears from the pain while waiting in line (standing in place is the worst for some reason. Makes my feet and shoulders burn horrifically) and then, struggled to lift these bags up two flights of stairs. Once I made it to the apartment, I dropped the bags and started crying. I got my food but was it worth it?

I was already having a dreadful month, where I'd fought with a bunch of people I loved, struggled with adjusting to a new medicine (which of course, does nothing), suffered through two nearly unbearable flares (in the middle of the second right now, oh joy of joys) and just haven't been holding it together as well as I'd like. And I feel so goddamned alone because no one can relate to this at all. They can relate to depression, sure. And who wouldn't be depressed in circumstances such as this?

I get lots of support for the depression but excruciating, chronic pain? It's like I live in a different world from the healthy, from the ones who actually can go to the grocery store and not feel like they're passing on to the next life. And the fatigue? Sweet Jesus. It always feels like I have the flu, no matter how much pain I'm in. That sickish, exhausted feeling that makes it sometimes impossible to get out of bed or even lift your head to look at the television.

The one thing that I've been trying to hold on to is my apartment. I've a very solitary person and when I'm in pain (which I always am, to varying degrees of misery), I want to be left alone. They're my goddamned fucking tears and I refuse to let anyone see them. And financially, it has been very treacherous. I simply don't get enough income from the government to maintain where I live (I'm below the poverty level) and sudden expenditures always happen (especially with my goddamned car) so my savings is getting steadily depleted. I know there's nothing left once it's gone so that scares me. But it doesn't really matter all that much because it's becoming very clear that I simply can't take care of myself any longer. I can't maintain my apartment, which is invaded with dust, dirt, and food particles. I can't maintain myself, as evidenced by the grocery incident. Other needed trips are similarly impossible. When I sold my last car, my mom had to do all the work because I couldn't drive out there myself at the time. I'm still waiting to hear back from mental health on my therapy but it doesn't matter because nine times out of ten, I'll be in too much pain to go. Simply getting into the shower these days requires a herculean effort.

Ordinarily, I'd move in with my mom, in a town I hate and we'd proceed to kill each other because I'm the solitary type and she desperately wants to help, at any cost. But she got diagnosed with the same illness a few months ago (albeit at a lesser severity, for now) and already suffers from bad arthritis. She's retiring soon and together, we wouldn't have enough money to maintain her rental house. She currently lives in and maintains my grandma's house, which is really only big enough for her. The only other offer is with my buddy Bob and his wife. I've known him for most of my life (since I was 10) and his wife in particular would push to take me in. But their place isn't large, their basement still isn't fixed up after a flood and it's a really uncertain situation. Moving in with friends (especially married ones) is ordinarily a dicey situation but with my health being the way it is? I'm a very heavy burden being pushed on other people to take care of. I don't want that. Worse, I'm basically tethering myself to them so every decision they make about their future requires a concession. What if they ever decide to move? Or have a family?

The decision I have to make is whether this is all worth fighting for. People make these grand statements about life (hell, I've read a few in recent GAF threads) about how amazing it can be and how it's so much better than being dead. I beg to differ. Take away your health, take away your dreams, take away your chance to fall in love, have kids, have a family, have a career, to travel and stick yourself in someone's basement for the rest of your life to rot and you'll see just how much worse than death life can get. I'm also very aware that I'm not going to get any healthier as I age, even putting aside the progressive nature of the illness. I can't even imagine fighting cancer or something else nasty while just trying to get through the usual misery that I've been fighting for the last decade. Friends and family make the usual platitudes, about how there's still a chance if you keep fighting but they're not the ones living it. It's very easy to make blanket statements when you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about.

I'm not afraid to die. At least, not much. It's just that once I'm dead, that's it. It's over. It's a decision that has to be made with the utmost of delicacy because there are no second chances, no do-overs. It just makes me sick that circumstances and fate have pushed me into a position where this is actually a rational, logical choice to be made.

How do you know you're never going to have a family of your own in the future? You're thinking about everyone else's plans but your own. I know depression can take away any desire to do anything, be anything, want anything. Can you see yourself making plans for your future?

Whatever you decided to do, you'd be making a choice based on your present situation that could change. You already know this obviously, because you've stated as much. It's good that you've got people there for you who want to help you, though.

I know it's hard being a private, solitary person and dealing with depression, because I am facing it myself.

I wouldn't worry about your age too much. Many people do not know what they want to be perfectly at 28, or even at 40. There are many writers for instance who started in their 50s Try and think if there is anything you would like to do, or even just try, and work from there in therms of the career.. There's absolutely nothing wrong with travelling alone. Do it for you, visit places you'd like to see and make your own experiences. That can still be really fulfilling. Education would bring it's own experiences too so even if you did go back to school, you;d be able to learn and break out of stagnation which is never a bad thing.

I know it feels like time isn't on your side, but at 28, you still have plenty of time to turn things around. Motivation is tough, but try and focus on the results and fulfillment you'd get from things like school or traveling to encourage you to do them.

It's easy to stay in the 'safe zone', which is what I've done my entire life. Depression - and fear of change and people - has made me reluctant to pick a direction.

I think it's stopped me from making any sort of progress in my life. I've been drifting through my 20's thinking that I'll probably kill myself within a year. But I've never had the heart to do it. Even so, why make plans for your future when every year you don't want to be here the year after? So much precious time has been wasted quietly dealing with this depression.

But you're right - I ought to make some sort of move towards something. To push for something, even if there's doubt that it'll work out, or it's what I really want. I don't know. I sit here now and can honestly say I would rather not be here anymore. I find it hard to convince myself I want to live when I don't.
 
If it's intro-level stuff I can try helping out.

I havent been in there in a bit but I'll answer here instead. I should add I that I wouldn't take it personally. Sometimes the smaller simpler questions get overlooked completely by accident. It's happened to me before.



Same way you did the first one. The %s is just a "placeholder" for the variable in the quotes.

So instead of "\"Hello World\"", %s is used to format the firstName character array.

so printf("\"%s\"", firstName); should work.

Thank you Notrollious. Sorry Pau...but thanks for taking into consideration of wanting to help me. There is one last question I need help on, could I pm the question to you, Notrollious or Pau?
 
Is there a term for when you work through confrontation/arguements in your head before you ever verbalize them, thus you never do? I do this all the time which I tell myself in my head is fair and then just let some of that shit fester because I know how the conversation will go before even having it? Not exactly the perfect example, but my wife hit the molding of the garage door with her car yesterday, knocking off a big chunk of it. Understanding that she probably already felt like shit, I was nice/kind and just patched it up quick and moved along. Internally though, I was saying "what the fuck, how fucking hard is it to back out of the garage", etc.

I really wanted to verbalize some of this, but I already (in my mind) worked out how it goes and just don't bother because I feel like I'll come off as an asshole. I tell myself that I'm just being understanding and fair, but damn if it doesn't feel like I'm shorting myself at times. Not entirely sure if this is the best place to post this, but figured why not as it sure as hell gets me down sometimes.
 
Is there a term for when you work through confrontation/arguements in your head before you ever verbalize them, thus you never do? I do this all the time which I tell myself in my head is fair and then just let some of that shit fester because I know how the conversation will go before even having it? Not exactly the perfect example, but my wife hit the molding of the garage door with her car yesterday, knocking off a big chunk of it. Understanding that she probably already felt like shit, I was nice/kind and just patched it up quick and moved along. Internally though, I was saying "what the fuck, how fucking hard is it to back out of the garage", etc.

I really wanted to verbalize some of this, but I already (in my mind) worked out how it goes and just don't bother because I feel like I'll come off as an asshole. I tell myself that I'm just being understanding and fair, but damn if it doesn't feel like I'm shorting myself at times. Not entirely sure if this is the best place to post this, but figured why not as it sure as hell gets me down sometimes.

Can relate to this.

Sometimes I imagine people slighting me in some way, and then I'll have an argument in my head with them. And I'll always end up saying some really nasty things, and they'll say the worst things I can imagine somebody would say to me (things that play on my biggest insecurities). I always feel very negative/horrible afterwards, because I wonder if this is my real personality that I am just not showing.

I think it's my lack of self-esteem and feelings of inadequacy manifesting in the form of imaginary conflict in my head. I am frustrated with a lot of things in life, so this further fuels it. And of course, it doesn't do my depression any good. That's just me - I am not saying this applies to you at all. Perhaps it's because you keep things bottled up? I would think quite a few people do what you're describing.
 
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I'm not sure how that's supposed to help me.

I didn't diagnose myself, and it was hard enough getting to the point of asking for professional help.
 
Can relate to this.

Sometimes I imagine people slighting me in some way, and then I'll have an argument in my head with them. And I'll always end up saying some really nasty things, and they'll say the worst things I can imagine somebody would say to me (things that play on my biggest insecurities). I always feel very negative/horrible afterwards, because I wonder if this is my real personality that I am just not showing.

I think it's my lack of self-esteem and feelings of inadequacy manifesting in the form of imaginary conflict in my head. I am frustrated with a lot of things in life, so this further fuels it. And of course, it doesn't do my depression any good. That's just me - I am not saying this applies to you at all. Perhaps it's because you keep things bottled up? I would think quite a few people do what you're describing.

I absolutely bottle many things up, definite character flaw. I rationalize it in my head well enough and think that I'm putting myself in their shoes and I explain it all away. Drives me nuts yet I continue to do it.
 
I don't know if I'm going to be able to finish my degree (chemical engineering)...it is so taxing on my mental health....these classes are so stressful and cutthroat and difficult I'm just fighting to not feel depressed every day. My anxiety problems got better last semester, now it got worse because I missed a week of school due to appendicitis and I'm trying to catch up. Haven't slept well at all the past week and it's not helping. Hate going to my psychologist...she doesn't teach me anything and just gives me common sense advice. I'm basically paying for someone to listen to me.

Sorry, complaining is just a coping mechanism for me and I don't like to do it to my friends because they can't understand or relate to me...
 
It's getting so much worse. I can't keep doing this. I can't.

What's up?



My anxiety has been so bad these past few days that I have a headache, my whole body hurts and I'm having trouble breathing. I'm just a mess and only capable of lying in bed. Barely. Ugh.
 
I don't know if I'm going to be able to finish my degree (chemical engineering)...it is so taxing on my mental health....these classes are so stressful and cutthroat and difficult I'm just fighting to not feel depressed every day. My anxiety problems got better last semester, now it got worse because I missed a week of school due to appendicitis and I'm trying to catch up. Haven't slept well at all the past week and it's not helping. Hate going to my psychologist...she doesn't teach me anything and just gives me common sense advice. I'm basically paying for someone to listen to me.

Sorry, complaining is just a coping mechanism for me and I don't like to do it to my friends because they can't understand or relate to me...

I do the same for my Computer Science degree!
 
Not exactly the perfect example, but my wife hit the molding of the garage door with her car yesterday, knocking off a big chunk of it. Understanding that she probably already felt like shit, I was nice/kind and just patched it up quick and moved along. Internally though, I was saying "what the fuck, how fucking hard is it to back out of the garage", etc.

What I would say is that human beings are creatures of habit. We learn from what we do but also from what we think. When you have these negative/aggressive/angry thoughts you are literally training yourself to be negative/aggressive/angry. At the same time, if you don't stand up for yourself you are teaching yourself that you don't have as much value as you should. I'd suggest the following four points:

1) Be a good person
2) Accept that you are a good person
3) Knowing you are a good person speak with authority and calmness and stand up for yourself and what you believe to be right
4) Try to be kind and constructive to people

You've already got 1 and 4, you mostly need to work on 2 and 3 now.
 
Relapsed badly today, ended up sleeping all day to stop feeling terrible. Now I'm probably just going to stay up all night, just lovely...
 
I've been reading more into loneliness lately, because as a scientists, I like to have reasons for why things happen to me in terms of my mental health and all.

Turns out, loneliness can cause a 45% increase in mortality over all.

So, I guess that is something to look forward to. Stay lonely and I'll die sooner. Woohoo!
 
Ugh. My wife got sick on Sunday so I had to stay home and take care of her - didn't get to attend the AA meeting. The others during the week don't really fit into my schedule (or are miles away). I'll try again next Sunday.

Just going to sit down and force myself not to drink this week. I skipped a birthday party on Saturday since it was at a bar. Not that I would have gotten stupid at a bar, but I just figured it was a decent starting point.
 
When something really stresses me out, I get a panic attack, my chest gets congested, it becomes hard to breath followed by bawling -_- Sucks that it's not taken seriously and you are told to just calm down. As if it is that easy ;o
 
Just got out of a six day stay in the psych ward. Don't really feel much better. Moving back in with my mom for a while I think.
 
Finally seen a doctor about my anxiety and depression after having a panic attack, I was diagnosed with general anxiety. The tablets do help but make me so tired and his going to book me in to a therapist to hopefully start sorting out my issues of not being able to talk to new people and feeling so alone, trapped and dependent on so many people.

I really need to make changes in my life, get more hobbys go out to more social places that don't involve drinking, travel and exercise more regularly. All that however is a dream at this point .
 
The stress of my final major semester (i'll have 12 credits for the fall but those are all outside general ed requirements or my major requirement so I'm not counting those) is really just laying on the stress and I feel so close, yet so far and I just want to throw my hands up and quit. I can't do this anymore.
 
Yeah I finally decided to post in this thread because of a problem I've been experiencing for a while.

Basically it usually happens when I'm by myself but I think of some difficult memory from my past and it's like I experience the pain, guilt or embarrassment from it all over again. I usually swear quietly to myself to handle the pain or cringe or sometimes yell into a pillow if I'm in my dorm room. Also if it's a memory that made me angry I sometimes can get pissy and feel like I want to just get up, smash everything around me and walk away.

Also I bounce pretty wildly back and forth between emotions now, like for an hour or two I can feel like I'm ecstatic and think about how beautiful the world is but then I'll go back to feeling like shit a few hours later, like I've gone to bouncing off the walls happy in the afternoon to thinking about killing myself later in the night. I know it's not bipolar because those swings are more dramatic and last longer.
 
I don't know if it's sickness or sadness. But I have had this "bad mood" for about 7 years now. Going up and down. Sometimes it feels like it fades away completely, but there it always is. Waiting. Watching. Striking when you least expect it. Every year it comes in harder. Every year I fall deeper. And I fear that I am dragging down more people than just myself.

This year is the worst yet. I don't if it is the conditions, or is it just inside my head. Might be both. At the moment I have only 1 friend to hang out, and even he doesn't bother to heed my call sometimes. + I somewhat dislike him. He is too proud, too self-centered. I had more friend's last year, but they have all moved on, have their own families, lives, goals. They don't have time for me. And most of them are unavailable at the moment. Nobody has called me for 3 months. It is always I, who seek for help and comfort. All the activities and hobbies I used to go have died out or are lingering out. Nobody is supporting me, I don't have the strenght or resources to go to school. I am...lying to people to keep on, which pains me the most. My dad is nowadays communicating only through yelling and insults, because his in similiar situation, and he just can't take it.

Now what's going in my head. I... don't get enjoyment from anything anymore. I used to like to play games and spend time on computer to get away from the world, but something changed and, I just can't do it. And it frustrates me that no matter how hard I try, I can't get away. I have started to become bitter and jealous about other people. How they laugh, how they move, how they talk. And it hurts, that I am starting to think like this about my friends too. That they don't care, that they do it only for their own sake that they don't feel quilty. Sometimes it just feels like that I hate everything and everyone. And sometimes I get these seizures, that I get mad as fuck about something. I can't pinpoint what exacly, I just get angry as hell, and I don't want to do anything. Literally. I don't want to go anywhere, I don't want to stand, sit, walk, look, anything. I swing my head around, breath heavily, start to almost panic, it's really hard to describe. Luckily it hasn't been happening for a while, but not long ago it happened all the time. Also when I dwell too deep into the past, into my mind, it's harder to get out of there. It becames harder and harder to let go. And once I hit something I don't like, a bad memory or something that I miss, I get these...strokes. Kind of. Quick strokes, like swinging my head and I feel like I need to get out. After this, I am exhausted.

Still, I don't know if it's sickness or sadness. But at this point, I don't even care. I am too deep in the hole. I am deeper than I have ever been. And it hurt's like hell. But what scares the shit out of me, is that I don't even see the bottom. I don't know how deep I can still fall, and how hard is it gonna be. Nowadays, every day is a fight. A battle for survival. Every day I am having the same duel against the world. Against myself. And it feels like the world is kicking back with the same amount. Every time I get back to my bed, I don't want to fall asleep, cause I know, that I'll be having the same battle tomorrow. The same fucking battle that I have fought a hundreds of times before.

I ain't doing this for myself, I haven't been doing for a long time. I have nothing left, no hope, nothing to miss if I go. It's the people who I love that I am doing this for. Because I know that if I go away, It's bound to drag some people with me.
 
So I'm bipolar, on depakote which is helping control my horrible manic episodes which ruined my marriage (she left, couldn't handle the emotional abuse that spilled out of my mouth when I was full tilt manic - together 7 years and off meds the entire time, smoked hella amount of weed & drank which put me in a holding pattern). I am also nursing a substance abuse problem (drinking, grass, speed on occassion) that I am trying to overcome while putting my life back together.

So the depakote helps keep the mania down but I get almost crushingly depressed, trying to slow down on other substances but that's an issue all by itself. I am trying to clean myself up enough to see if that is going to help the depression, but I usually back on that stuff to take the edge off the depression.

So my question is does anyone know anything that goes well with depakote that will help keep the depression at bay, make me actually want to engage the world? because at the moment only substances make me motivated enough to make it through.

Feel free to ridicule, laugh, or give thoughtful advice - I am pretty much down for anything at this point.
 
Up. Feel like shit.

My birthday is next week and rather than being excited, I'm thinking about my life and feeling like a total failure. 25 living at home with no money, no job, and worst of all, no idea what I'm going to do with my life. I want to go out to celebrate, but I also don't want anyone to see me like this. Just sad and depressed and lost. And besides, what do I even have to celebrate. Another year of being a lazy fuck up? Of never being able to commit or get my act together? Of being a non-social loser?

I just feel so alone, and the scary part is that I think I'd rather feel that way. I'm clearly a failure when it comes to dealing with people and the world. Maybe things are supposed to be like this...
 
I have a friend who is depressed. She is wonderful and I hate to see her like this. Last night she said she is afraid she'll do something stupid and I'm very worried and concerned. I give her all the support I can and I am always there for her, but there's only so much I can do, right? I just feel so helpless, I want to do something to help.

I feel for all of you who have similar feelings. I've been reading through this thread and you all seem like good people. It helps to see how people deal with this problem like my friend is trying to.
 
I have a friend who is depressed. She is wonderful and I hate to see her like this. Last night she said she is afraid she'll do something stupid and I'm very worried and concerned. I give her all the support I can and I am always there for her, but there's only so much I can do, right? I just feel so helpless, I want to do something to help.

I feel for all of you who have similar feelings. I've been reading through this thread and you all seem like good people. It helps to see how people deal with this problem like my friend is trying to.

How long has she been feeling the way you described?

Most people self medicate with pills or something else to solve the problem. Others believe in CBT. I'm scared to take pills that may be addictive so I went to CBT. It helps to find her a therapist to talk to.
 
Hi all. I was wondering if anyone here has had any sort of experience with Mindfulness Based Cognitive Therapy? I'm aware its CBT with mindfulness techniques but am wondering if its superior to just CBT? And speaking of CBT, has it helped anyone here with their depression and anxiety problems? I really can't stand the side effects of medication and am hoping to give therapy a shot. Thanks!
 
Hi all. I was wondering if anyone here has had any sort of experience with Mindfulness Based Cognitive Therapy? I'm aware its CBT with mindfulness techniques but am wondering if its superior to just CBT? And speaking of CBT, has it helped anyone here with their depression and anxiety problems? I really can't stand the side effects of medication and am hoping to give therapy a shot. Thanks!

YMMV. I've seen a therapist who preaches Mindfulness and CBT. The crux of the work is on your back.
 
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