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First Reactions to Darren Aronofsky's NOAH

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teruterubozu said:
Only the real nutjob Christians take the Noah story literally.
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A few things.

1. To say that only "nutjob Christians" believe in the story of Noah is only your subjective opinion. A personal taste that only applies to you and your point of view.

2. If what you say "is" true, objectively speaking, then God & the following people would also be considered nutjobs.

God
Jesus
The Apostle Paul
The Apostle Peter

What is your take on #2?
 
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Father_Brain

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demon said:
I think that's because it was. Wasn't the film originally set to be shot years earlier with a much bigger budget and a different cast (Brad Pitt?)?
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The original screenplay from the Blanchett/Pitt version was adapted into a graphic novel back in 2005 or so. It's honestly not that different from the film we got.
 
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Dany

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Shit.
I was really skeptical about this movie. But everyone tweeting about The Fountain and comparing musical scores to the Fountain is making me so goddamn excited.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr0NBPRMe2E&feature=kp

Heh, now that I think about it, Requiem for a Dream, Pi, Fountain, Wrestler and Black Swan...there isn't a good reason for me to NOT see this movie.
 
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Camwi

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Game Analyst said:
A few things.

1. To say that only "nutjob Christians" believe in the story of Noah is only your subjective opinion. A personal taste that only applies to you and your point of view.

2. If what you say "is" true, objectively speaking, then God & the following people would also be considered nutjobs.

God
Jesus
The Apostle Paul
The Apostle Peter

What is your take on #2?
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Isn't there a different thread on NeoGAF where you can take this?
 
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Dany

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Yikes at the trailer...thats probably said because of the 'artistic license' that Aronfsky has taken with the characters.
 
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Sesha

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Game Analyst said:
A few things.

1. To say that only "nutjob Christians" believe in the story of Noah is only your subjective opinion. A personal taste that only applies to you and your point of view.

2. If what you say "is" true, objectively speaking, then God & the following people would also be considered nutjobs.

God
Jesus
The Apostle Paul
The Apostle Peter

What is your take on #2?
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Historically, the authorship of Epistle to the Hebrews has been uncertain, and both texts' authorship is still contested by biblical scholars, so, what?
 
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teruterubozu

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Game Analyst said:
A few things.

1. To say that only "nutjob Christians" believe in the story of Noah is only your subjective opinion. A personal taste that only applies to you and your point of view.

2. If what you say "is" true, objectively speaking, then God & the following people would also be considered nutjobs.

God
Jesus
The Apostle Paul
The Apostle Peter

What is your take on #2?
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Yes I posted that and I regret it because that was not what I really meant and I knew I'd get shit for it. I didn't mean Christians as a whole (I am one myself) but that Noah's story rarely gets defense from Christians as an "actual" story, like say Jesus, or even Adam & Eve. But I guess I was wrong.

Speaking of nutjobs, and you could answer this, didn't Noah lose his mind towards the end of his life? I remember something about him going insane, drunk and naked as an old, old, old man.
 
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Kinyou

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Dany M said:
Shit.
I was really skeptical about this movie. But everyone tweeting about The Fountain and comparing musical scores to the Fountain is making me so goddamn excited.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr0NBPRMe2E&feature=kp

Heh, now that I think about it, Requiem for a Dream, Pi, Fountain, Wrestler and Black Swan...there isn't a good reason for me to NOT see this movie.
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What's sad is that we had a member who claimed to be friends with Clint mansell and even uploaded some exclusive stuff. But at some point he was banned. I guess there's a chance that he was just a marketing plant since his thread about the fountain looks a little like PR

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=230962
 
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Seth C

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Damn it. I was looking forward to this but if it reminds someone of The Fountain I think I'm out. I actively loathed that movie.
 
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SCHUEY F1

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Love the score in the Fountain, enjoyed the movie as well. Still not sure about Noah though. Don't think I will go to the theatre to see it anyways.
 
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overcast

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The Fountain is an absolutely beautiful movie. So, the comparisons are good for me. I didn't care for the trailers much at all, but I'm happy to know Aronofsky's cut is what we're seeing.


He's definitely one of the more interesting Hollywood directors.
 
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Pau

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The trailers have looked generic as hell so I was gonna pass on this. Having the movie compared to The Fountain definitely changes my mind.
 
Chaplain

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teruterubozu said:
Yes I posted that and I regret it because that was not what I really meant and I knew I'd get shit for it. I didn't mean Christians as a whole (I am one myself) but that Noah's story rarely gets defense from Christians as an "actual" story, like say Jesus, or even Adam & Eve. But I guess I was wrong..
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No worries. You are entitled to whatever you believe.

teruterubozu said:
Speaking of nutjobs, and you could answer this, didn't Noah lose his mind towards the end of his life? I remember something about him going insane, drunk and naked as an old, old, old man.
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Good question. The only instance of him is the one you mentioned. Noah got wasted and naked (the first mention of being drunk in the Bible), one of his sons exposes his father's sin, and Noah curses his son for exposing his sin.
 
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Spider from Mars

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When I first heard Aronofsky was doing a Noah film, I hoped it would be about a crazy man who was convinced God told him a great flood was coming. Then I saw the trailer and It looked like a fairly straightforward telling of the story and I was a bit bummed. Im glad that it appears to be a bit less straightforward than it appears.
 
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Lothar

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teruterubozu said:
Yes I posted that and I regret it because that was not what I really meant and I knew I'd get shit for it. I didn't mean Christians as a whole (I am one myself) but that Noah's story rarely gets defense from Christians as an "actual" story, like say Jesus, or even Adam & Eve. But I guess I was wrong.

Speaking of nutjobs, and you could answer this, didn't Noah lose his mind towards the end of his life? I remember something about him going insane, drunk and naked as an old, old, old man.
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Just out of curiosity, is there any evidence within the bible that the floor story is not meant to be taken literally? Why would you not believe that if you believe in Adam or Eve or a zombie rising from the earth after death?
 
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Messofanego said:
Nice to see The Fountain is still really divisive.
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Raiden

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I loved The Fountain but i have to say i was a bit skeptical because i thought this was actually a full blown religious film. Now i have to see it for sure.
 
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teruterubozu

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Game Analyst said:
No worries. You are entitled to whatever you believe.



Good question. The only instance of him is the one you mentioned. Noah got wasted and naked (the first mention of being drunk in the Bible), one of his sons exposes his father's sin, and Noah curses his son for exposing his sin.
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Ah thanks. Yeah I thought it harked back to the topic of shame and "nakedness" in the Garden of Eden. It seems in the Old Testament many "who saw God" lose their mind later in life, like it's too intense to comprehend and handle.
 
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Tragicomedy

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CF_Fighter said:
What is the Jewish view on the Noah story. Is it taken as literally by them as some Christians do? It is kind of their story first. Has there been any move by Paramount to market the film to the Hebrew congregations like they seem to be doing with the Fundie churches?
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Well the entirety of the Torah comprises the beginning of the Old Testament, so the fundamental story is identical. If you're asking how they intepret the story, I have no clue.

Squalor said:
Oh boy, a believer is in the thread.

This discussion is going to go well . . .
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I'm not even sure what you're trying to accomplish with that, but cut it out.
 
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Raiden said:
I loved The Fountain but i have to say i was a bit skeptical because i thought this was actually a full blown religious film. Now i have to see it for sure.
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Yeah, it was pretty touch and go due to all the test screening meddling but looks like it's turned out for the better.
 
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RatskyWatsky said:
Wasn't he raped by one of his sons or something?
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There are two views that are held regarding this incident (one being the one you mentioned). Here is a short commentary on both views:

View 1: "And became uncovered in his tent: It may be Noah was abused sexually by one of his sons or relatives. The phrase became uncovered and the idea of nakedness are sometimes associated with sexual relations (Leviticus 18:6-20)."

View 2: Saw the nakedness of his father: Others think Ham’s only sin here was in seeing Noah’s drunken, uncovered state, and that he made fun of him, mocking him as a father and as a man of God. Literally, the ancient Hebrew says that Ham “told with delight” what he saw in his father’s tent. He determined to mock his father and undermining his authority as a man of God."
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mckmas8808 said:
How much different can the story in the movie be?
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Quite different. It could be extremely literal and insanely brief, just pulling from the specific section of the bible. Or it could take on a fantastical tone, culling in other elements found in different passages of the bible, which is seems what Aronofsky's going with.
 
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