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I'm no saint, and living with me during this time is hard. But it's like the one person who really needs support to get better - and I (thought I) had that support - is suddenly fining out that people are working against me. I'm just crushed. And it's like "stay ofline!" Well, okay, so spend even more time alone? I thought people were quietly on my team. Instead, they are not so quietly suggesting that people give up on me. It sucks all the more as I HAVE been getting better.

I don't know what to do. I don't have people to talk to.

No one here is giving up on you. No one here wants to lose you. But while you say you might have cut back from the "online stuff", is that really true? Or did you just shift it to for instance texting your (online) friends. I'm not going to pretend I know what exactly is going on between you and Miss Bagels but could it partially be jealousy?

Because lets face it, you are chatting/texting/mailing/twittering/calligraphing/exchanging letters a god awful lot with lovely ladies two thirds her age. Yeah, you know and I know and they know and Miss Bagels probably knows it isn't like that, but does it really matter? We both know from experience that jealously is a cruel irrational bitch.

This is what we (or at least I) mean with cutting all online ties (including texting) for a while. It means showing that the most important person to you is her. It means that instead of falling back on us, you are falling back on her. It means instead of balancing your (online) friends with your family, you kick everything that isn't important off the scales. And when all is well on your side again, you can slowly being coming back to us. But slowly. Just to find the balance between keeping up with us and keeping those that matter awake by fucking around with your phone at 3AM

Because the fact that you say that without us you have nobody to talk to is just utter, utter shit and more telling than anything else. You have her.

So please don't say we are giving up on you. We don't. But we want you to reassess what your priorities should be.

And if that means forcing you to go on an extended "vacation" then so be it.
 
I don't know what to do. I don't have people to talk to.

Sounds to me like people (Friends and family) think you're doing it wrong so are jumping in to tell you how to do it right. Which is really unfair.

Having said that, it seems a bit far fetched that someone can be persuaded to divorce a person. If it happens, it'll be because your partner wants it to happen of their own accord. That could be a worrying thought, but look at it another way, and it is a source of strength.

As far as I can see, here's a gal that likes you. So do really take a step back. Reevaluate, think long term, and invest in your marriage. Small things and slowly and naturaly rather than big things in an mad panic dash forced fashion.

Edit: & here is me telling you how do it right, ha ha. So ignore me, and do what you feel is right!
 
Talking to her, she's not like, "No! You're a good husband and father!" She sticks up for her friends - they apparently have good reasons to say that it's time to step away from me. I have nothing left. I hate me and it turns out the things I'm feeling are very real to people I trusted. Talking to people just reinforces that I'm a failure. No one is refuting any of this stuff.
I am, you've helped me and many others get to a better place.

I'm sorry I don't know the details but are you in therapy with your wife? With all of the compassion you show in here I can't imagine that you're a bad father, certainly not a failure.
 
Just a quick note that the online stuff isn't the big issue. It's really about me being depressed and people who I thought were supporting me deciding that it's not about me being in a bad spot; it's just about me being an asshole. I have cut my online interactions way back, which is its own issue, as that source of support has been crucial to me. Now I have to give much of that up, meaning it's just me sitting alone all day. And when I do want to talk about how bad I'm feeling, it's driving friends away.

I think a big issue is that I'm pretty isolated. My IRL friends have not reached out to me (they're waiting for me to reach out?) so it's not like there's this great alternative to talking to the people I care about online. Then again, my anger at people trying to poison my relationship has bled over into my online friends. So NO ONE is happy with me.

Things were getting better with my wife, and our relationship is very strong. But now she has these voices in her ears and she doesn't want me to lose them, or be mad, so her response is to try to explain why they are saying such hurtful things. And that hurts even worse.

I'm no saint, and living with me during this time is hard. But it's like the one person who really needs support to get better - and I (thought I) had that support - is suddenly fining out that people are working against me. I'm just crushed. And it's like "stay ofline!" Well, okay, so spend even more time alone? I thought people were quietly on my team. Instead, they are not so quietly suggesting that people give up on me. It sucks all the more as I HAVE been getting better.

I don't know what to do. I don't have people to talk to.

Sorry, I'm not giving up on you nor trying to drive you away. And if I do know one thing here, it's how harf isolation is on a person. Have you looked into getting a volunteer position somewhere to keep your thoughts and mind busy/productive until the misses gets home? Or reaching out to the friends and family you believe might be waiting for you to take the first step and explaining to them that much of your difficulties lie in becoming isolated and sitting with painful thoughts by yourself most of the day? Maybe if you can bridge that gap they could arrange regular meet ups and activities on certain days of the week with you?

If you make this effort but they do not return it, and can only offer complaints and backstabbing, I hope that will speak louder than any words.

Also, as much as you say the online isn't much of, or the problem at all, I bring it up because I'm surprised the level of interaction you have with many of the ladies here hasn't caused jealousy and mistrust. No women like to admit to jealousy and feelig threatened but it's a pretty normal reaction. I apologize for makig assumptions. I just had a feeling about it but I'm biased because I know I myself wouldn't be comfortable with my spouse having similar relationships online as you have. But I'm an old-fashioned dork when it comes to being married/in a serious relationship. I hope things improve and I don't want to drive you away. FillerB said it better than I in terms of thinkig taking a huge, complete disconnect from everthing and everyone here for a good while to re-asses priorities and get things to a functional level at home with just you, your fam, etc and the online life not inbetween. Sorry if I was insensitive.
 
About a year ago, I did basically the same thing you're doing right now - my rheumatologist started me on a heavy duty steroid and I also took methotrexate (and folic acid) for several months and I didn't have any of those side effects. Did you talk to your doctor about it? How are you feeling now?

I hope you feel better soon. Dealing with autoimmune issues is a bitch. :(

I feeling a little bit better today. The pain mostly faded to aching, so that's good.



On the subject of Bagels:

Perhaps it's the way I grew up, but online friends have always been just a legitimate as offline friends to me. My husband has no jealously issues with men sending me things in the mail or texting me. I assume I am one of the 'lovely ladies' folks are talking about possibly making his wife jealous, but I honestly don't think that's the issue at all. Bagels cares about folks, and in doing so, keeps in contact with them. I wouldn't be where I am today without the support of my online circle. Support is support, no mater where it comes from, and I know Bagels can use the support this community provides right now.

Bagels, I am really, really sorry your offline friends are being assholes. I wish I could come smack them for you. You are not a failure. Not in anyway, shape or form. This is a blip, a speed bump, in a life that's going to be legendary.
 
Not sure if this is really the best thread to post this is, but it's affecting my mental health so!...

How does one go about discovering what they want to do with their life- what they might like, what they might be particularly good at- when in their 30s, stuck in a horrible dead end job and with nothing really worthwhile on their resume? I'm 32, going on four years now making shit money at a bank call center job that makes me hate life, and when trying to think about what I'd like to go to school for or other types of jobs I'd consider applying for (that I'd have any shot at getting), I draw a blank and become paralyzed with anxiety and fear and a sense of hopelessness.

It doesn't help that I have pretty serious life-long issues with self esteem and self confidence and social skills.... I think I may have avoided applying to other jobs all these years because I'm afraid of interviewing. When it comes to school I'm incredibly apprehensive due to how bad I am at studying (at least partially I think due to having legit ADD) and a hatred of discussion-based classes. It's a miracle I graduated college at all, albeit with a useless degree that means nothing to me and has done nothing for me.

I don't have any hobbies or active interests that could be turned into a career. Earlier in life my parents (particularly my father) tried to push me down the path of computer science and then IT, the former I just wasn't capable of and the latter I absolutely despise. I don't know why I bothered even humoring them with the idea of going into IT and getting those certificates....dealing with my own computer and networking problems makes me fucking rage like nothing else, the last thing I would want is to deal with those things 40 hours a week. Growing up the only things I wanted "to be when I grow up" were architect, photographer, game designer, a vague notion of doing something with music (I have musical experience from earlier in life), and then filmmaker/cinematographer/whatever. I never did anything more than fantasize about how cool it would be, though. It seems the kinds of things I've fantasized about doing with my life tend to be things that, regardless of the skills directly involved, require many of the aspects of character I lack the most. Given my personality you'd think I'm best suited for a quiet office job that involves little interaction with people and little to no creative expression. But that sounds like a horrible waste of a life to me.

I'm just completely and utterly lost. Several years ago I got a book from the library based on a recommendation, I can't remember what it was called but it was considered a popular alternative for younger people, like right out of college or mid-20s, to the book What Color Is Your Parachute. I thought it was the same author but looking on Amazon I may be wrong. Anyways I figured a book aimed at younger people would be better suited for me since I was 110% clueless about what I wanted to do with my life. I quit about 75 pages in or so because the book made all sorts of assumptions about the reader knowing certain things about themself and what they want out of life. It was incredibly frustrating and depressing, the book was just completely useless to me and I couldn't take anything away from it because of that. That was over half a decade ago and if anything I feel even more lost now.

Not to mention it's affecting other areas of my life as well. I have a really hard time making friends and I've never dated, and working a boring-ass call center job doesn't exactly give me much to talk about with new people and isn't much of a source of self-esteem.
 
It feels like the person who I lean on so much for support is slowly getting done with me. Have taken lots of sleeping meds the last couple if days to just sleep...

Just ready to cut interaction with people.
 
Not that I know. I've been trying to give them space and not burden them with any problems.
See above.

It's weird. That's exactly what happened with a close friend of mine. He was my go-to guy for months and months, said he'd always be there, I started to give him space and he simply stopped contacting me. Haven't heard from him in months. Hurts.
 
If you're a depressed person and you're leaning on just one person for support, it's very easy to overwhelm them, unfortunately.

Pretty much which is really hard since it's usually really stressful to make and keep friends when you have such crappy feelings. It's really hard since it's stressful on you and them.
 
Friendships can lapse. What is there preventing you catching up with them? Just say hi and inquire about their well being. You could even do something nice for them for at least being there for you in the past.

A kind gesture deserves an equally kind gesture in return.
 
Just a quick note that the online stuff isn't the big issue. It's really about me being depressed and people who I thought were supporting me deciding that it's not about me being in a bad spot; it's just about me being an asshole. I have cut my online interactions way back, which is its own issue, as that source of support has been crucial to me. Now I have to give much of that up, meaning it's just me sitting alone all day. And when I do want to talk about how bad I'm feeling, it's driving friends away.

I think a big issue is that I'm pretty isolated. My IRL friends have not reached out to me (they're waiting for me to reach out?) so it's not like there's this great alternative to talking to the people I care about online. Then again, my anger at people trying to poison my relationship has bled over into my online friends. So NO ONE is happy with me.

Things were getting better with my wife, and our relationship is very strong. But now she has these voices in her ears and she doesn't want me to lose them, or be mad, so her response is to try to explain why they are saying such hurtful things. And that hurts even worse.

I'm no saint, and living with me during this time is hard. But it's like the one person who really needs support to get better - and I (thought I) had that support - is suddenly fining out that people are working against me. I'm just crushed. And it's like "stay ofline!" Well, okay, so spend even more time alone? I thought people were quietly on my team. Instead, they are not so quietly suggesting that people give up on me. It sucks all the more as I HAVE been getting better.

I don't know what to do. I don't have people to talk to.
I don't know you very well Bagels, I've just heard a lot of good talk from other people (especially in this thread). I'm not going to give you advice, as there's already plenty enough in here and I don't know the situation well enough to do so.

All I can offer is my ear. I make an effort in the IRC to talk to everyone, including you. I'm neither lovely or a lady to boot!
 
Just had a major panic attack about 20 minutes ago. It started off minor but then it got worse until I had a hard time breathing. I have severe anxiety but I normally don't get panic attacks and if I do, they're usually somewhat minor. This one had me very scared. I thought I was going to die.

Anyways, I opened doors to let outside air come in and when I felt better enough, I took the dog on a short walk. I'm feeling better now but still a bit panicky.
 
I wish I started out working when I was 17 years old. My older brother sent me a text of applying to places so I won't lag behind which I have been for a while. I wasted 5 years of not applying to places. The reason why I don't apply to places because I don't want to deal with customers like I have been at Macy's for 3 months. I never ever want to work there again. I do want a job but I lack in confidence and verbal communication. Especially verbal communication because I had that problem when I was working at Macy's. Because I lack those things, I don't bother applying places. I know that mistakes do happen and we learn from it. But, I don't. I keep making mistakes over and over again. I hate it. However, I have no choice but to apply because I need save money.
 
I think I've accepted as best I can that I'll never be happy. Relationships don't seem to work and I don't really ever get elated feelings, I just get "ok" at best or crappy. Even things I enjoy and want to do see pointless and fleeting. I guess this is just how I'm going to be.
 
Only semi-related to my mental health, but how do I ask my doc to test me for something?

I'm way too afraid to be judged, but I suspect something I've wanted tested FOREVER. But I'm afraid it just makes me sound like a crazy person who googles symptoms and then the doc won't take me seriously. :/
 
Only semi-related to my mental health, but how do I ask my doc to test me for something?

I'm way too afraid to be judged, but I suspect something I've wanted tested FOREVER. But I'm afraid it just makes me sound like a crazy person who googles symptoms and then the doc won't take me seriously. :/

Depends what you want tested. If you haven't had a standard work-up done in a year (blood work and all), you should get that done anyway.
 
Depends what you want tested. If you haven't had a standard work-up done in a year (blood work and all), you should get that done anyway.

I get all my bloodwork done more than once a year because of my constant problems. :lol

I want something tested for which there's no proper test, sadly. Kind of like your problem. How did you go about getting that tested/diagnosed? (I'm not suspecting fibro, but something that would perfectly put together most of my problems in one disease. Have been suspecting it forever.)
 
Been doing really well for the past five months by getting a new set of friends that didn't disrespect me, and I cut off two people that made me constantly depressed and suicidal.

But I was forced to interact with those people a week or two weeks ago and it's like all the progress that I work for, just collapse on me. I just can't control my emotions and stand up for myself, It's frustrating to feel sad, angry, hurt and going back to thinking irrational again.
 
I get all my bloodwork done more than once a year because of my constant problems. :lol

I want something tested for which there's no proper test, sadly. Kind of like your problem. How did you go about getting that tested/diagnosed? (I'm not suspecting fibro, but something that would perfectly put together most of my problems in one disease. Have been suspecting it forever.)

Well, fibro is a diagnosis of exclusion. Since there's no test for it, you get that diagnosis when you have the symptoms and it can be nothing else.

What are your symptoms?
 
Just had a major panic attack about 20 minutes ago. It started off minor but then it got worse until I had a hard time breathing. I have severe anxiety but I normally don't get panic attacks and if I do, they're usually somewhat minor. This one had me very scared. I thought I was going to die.

Anyways, I opened doors to let outside air come in and when I felt better enough, I took the dog on a short walk. I'm feeling better now but still a bit panicky.

Have you figured out what triggered it?
 
I still find myself having to stop myself from contacting my ex, but I'm so lonely. The stupid outpatient program still hasn't called me back, I spoke to a counselor there last Monday. Things are slowly but surely unraveling for me.
 
I still find myself having to stop myself from contacting my ex, but I'm so lonely. The stupid outpatient program still hasn't called me back, I spoke to a counselor there last Monday. Things are slowly but surely unraveling for me.

Contact someone else instead. It'll help you feel less lonely and you won't have to depend on your ex.

I do know how you feel though. I tend to be dependent on some friends more than others and it bugs me.
 
I still find myself having to stop myself from contacting my ex, but I'm so lonely. The stupid outpatient program still hasn't called me back, I spoke to a counselor there last Monday. Things are slowly but surely unraveling for me.

Try talking to someone else Femme.

Maybe having goals might have help? Like what did you do this week in your efforts to attain a state of well being? Take a scenic walk? conquered an age old fear? Learnt a new activity? etc

What I'm learning from this thread is that depression tends to force that brain to think about nothing but misery. Perhaps trying to consciously turn the boat away slightly might help in reducing what upsets was from being the entire focal point. Fight small battles in an effort to win the war in the long term.
 
Have you figured out what triggered it?
Various concerns and worries along with an issue I'm having with a "friend" of mine, I'd imagine. I never have anxiety attacks like that, at least not at that level. This made me feel like I was going to die like I was out of breath and I was very dizzy. I kept getting up and sitting down. It really put the scare in me.

I'm thinking of coming in to DGAF Chat later today when I'm ready because I need to talk about some things and maybe get some things off my chest as well as advice. What's the best time to go in?
 
Today, I came to the very unfortunate realization that part of me would rather be homeless than continue to live in my house. I feel like I'm dying here. Not physically, but emotionally, intellecutally, socially, spiritiually.

I'm surrounded by family, but I don't feel very loved or understood at all.
 
Today, I came to the very unfortunate realization that part of me would rather be homeless than continue to live in my house. I feel like I'm dying here. Not physically, but emotionally, intellecutally, socially, spiritiually.

I'm surrounded by family, but I don't feel very loved or understood at all.

You don't have to leave outright. Just start spending more time away from your home with your friends or something. If you go to college, spend more time on campus. College campuses usually have something to keep students occupied. It'll give you some breathing room until you're ready to deal with your family again.
 
Today, I came to the very unfortunate realization that part of me would rather be homeless than continue to live in my house. I feel like I'm dying here. Not physically, but emotionally, intellecutally, socially, spiritiually.

I'm surrounded by family, but I don't feel very loved or understood at all.
Are you employed? See if you can move in with someone, even temporarily. Try to go out once every couple weeks or so and crash at a friend's place.
 
Contact someone else instead. It'll help you feel less lonely and you won't have to depend on your ex.

I do know how you feel though. I tend to be dependent on some friends more than others and it bugs me.
Try talking to someone else Femme.
I don't have any friends. I occasionally talk to someone on Skype but that is about it. I tried going back on dating sites but I'm in such a bad state that no one would want to date me let alone put up with me in a relationship.
Maybe having goals might have help? Like what did you do this week in your efforts to attain a state of well being? Take a scenic walk? conquered an age old fear? Learnt a new activity? etc

What I'm learning from this thread is that depression tends to force that brain to think about nothing but misery. Perhaps trying to consciously turn the boat away slightly might help in reducing what upsets was from being the entire focal point. Fight small battles in an effort to win the war in the long term.
I have goals but they are unattainable in the near future.
 
I don't have any friends. I occasionally talk to someone on Skype but that is about it. I tried going back on dating sites but I'm in such a bad state that no one would want to date me let alone put up with me in a relationship.

I have goals but they are unattainable in the near future.

Alter your daily routine in a way that you come into contact with new people more frequently.
 
Alter your daily routine in a way that you come into contact with new people more frequently.
I attend a university part time but I'm going to have to withdraw. I'm not much of a social butterfly anyway.

I talked to the outpatient program and I start on Thursday.
 
Hey GAF. Thought I'd give you guys a little update.

Last time I posted, things were really super shitty. My girlfriend (the reason I moved to Florida) who was also my coworker broke up with me over religion, I got evicted from my apartment, threatened by the complex, and the management at my job was falling apart, negative feelings all around, and my job was no longer secure. I almost decided to pack up and leave, because I couldn't handle all the stress and I had no reason to live in Florida anymore. I even bought a Wii U so I could perhaps find some time for entertainment, but the package was instantly stolen. My mom was very sick and I was too far away to help much. Everyone was bringing me down and the thought of suicide was on my mind fairly often. Homeless and broken.

A really great coworker let me crash on his couch for a month to help me get my feet back on the ground. Then I managed to get a new apartment that is very nice. No more shitty roommates, or black mold. There's an expansive golf course right in the backyard behind my apartment.. it's really soothing to go outside and just have a wide open space to gaze into.

The people spreading negative feelings at my company got fired. In return I've taken on more responsibility at the company and things are much more stable all around. I'm really glad I managed to fight through the depression and keep on working. I had quite a few days where I couldn't get out of bed to face the day. But now I have some financial security. Hell, I'm even investing some money for the future as well as paying off my huge amounts of student debt!

I've gotten to the point where I can move on from my past relationship. It really killed me for a while, but fuck her. Great person, but thinking about the decisions she made, there are other people, more open-minded people, that are a better match for me. I can work with her on a daily basis without much stress nowadays.

So in the end, thanks to some very supportive friends and family, I managed to pull myself back up and keep fighting. Thank you to the people on GAF that gave me advice the past few years (I've been here a few times since graduating college). I'm still concerned about my new living expenses and my crippling student debt.. I don't really make that much money at my job. But I kind of feel like a real adult for the first time.

If anybody else here just needs somebody to chat to, about absolutely anything, big or small, feel free to PM me. I now know how important it is just to have people supporting you and believing in you.
 
Today, I came to the very unfortunate realization that part of me would rather be homeless than continue to live in my house. I feel like I'm dying here. Not physically, but emotionally, intellecutally, socially, spiritiually.

I'm surrounded by family, but I don't feel very loved or understood at all.

I know that feeling and I think that the others are right to say make yourself sparse. Get out of the house and try to stay out all day. a library and a laptop can make you feel at ease away from home .
Just go home to eat and go to sleep.

I often feel that my life would be much better if I was a vandweller. Just pack up and hit the road . I could live on my own and be free. the only thing stopping me is lack of money to buy a van . society may look down on it but I kinda like the idea.
 
What do you do when the only true friend you have, is actually in a worse position than you are?, i have problems, buy he tells me about his... and i just get even sadder.

Although i do try and offer him advise.
 
I'm fat and unhappy and I know i'll be happier when i'm back to being skinny again but getting skinny again almost requires me to be happy otherwise I just don't give a fuck

man takl about a feedbakc loop
 
I don't have any friends. I occasionally talk to someone on Skype but that is about it. I tried going back on dating sites but I'm in such a bad state that no one would want to date me let alone put up with me in a relationship.

I have goals but they are unattainable in the near future.

I read about someone a long time ago, who made it a goal to smile at ten people by the end of that day. Not in a flirtatious way, but in a friendly fashion. That's the kind of goal I mean femme.

I talked to the outpatient program and I start on Thursday.

Oh cool. Never known a person who went into an outpatients program before. If you don't update the thread, feel free to pm me. Might prove useful. Being a writer, I'm destined to end my days there. ha ha.

Hey GAF. Thought I'd give you guys a little update.

Awesome stuff. I'm reminded of a t-shirt I saw a while back. I regret not buying it. It was a misquotation that kind of worked. "Be the change, you want to see in your self."

ha ha, no idea, why that just popped into my head.
 
Been doing really well for the past five months by getting a new set of friends that didn't disrespect me, and I cut off two people that made me constantly depressed and suicidal.

But I was forced to interact with those people a week or two weeks ago and it's like all the progress that I work for, just collapse on me. I just can't control my emotions and stand up for myself, It's frustrating to feel sad, angry, hurt and going back to thinking irrational again.

I know its not a switch you can flip, but give yourself some credit, you were good for months. And so you will be again. and despite feeling hurt man, its not your fault at all, and they must have some defects too. To "let it go" does well here

stay logical as you can
 
Had a really awesome time this weekend. I had a birthday party for my 20th birthday and a bunch of friends came and my gf. Was actually able to enjoy karaoke for the first time and had all you can eat sushi/korean barbecue. Had both my guy friends, chick friends, and my gf in one place at the same time which turned out great.

Got a big research essay due on Wednesday (max 15 pages), and I haven't started a page, but been doing/ am doing research now. I hope my anxiety doesn't get the best of me tomorrow.
 
So it turns out I still had plenty of room to crash emotionally

That's a lovely thing to wake up to in the morning

Absolutely fucking wonderful
 
Thanks for the support, guys. None of you, pretty as you all are, are the ones causing problems. It's the people I thought were my "IRL" "friends" who are treating my like shit.

I'm working on it, but I've gone from wanting to reconnect with my old friends to wanting to strangle them. We'll see what I figure out!
 
Thanks for the support, guys. None of you, pretty as you all are, are the ones causing problems. It's the people I thought were my "IRL" "friends" who are treating my like shit.

I'm working on it, but I've gone from wanting to reconnect with my old friends to wanting to strangle them. We'll see what I figure out!

Strangling someone requires physical connection. Reconnect away!

(Also PM me if you want me to stop the armchair analyzing bullshit that I do when I know dick all)
 
Any one in here struggle with anxiety?

I've been really anxious as of late and it's fucking up my life. I saw the doctor today and she wants to see me back in a week but I'm stressing about it.

I just want to chill/relax and get back to normal but ugh. I hate my body.
 
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