well, there is a difference between summoning someone and letting yourself getting summoned.
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well, there is a difference between summoning someone and letting yourself getting summoned.
You should have tried the Sunbro covenant, more summon signs show up. Else it's a major issue with the Soul Memory limit, which I also hate.
There are still a ton of people playing and if you aren't quick other people will someone those people first, and if they do it'll say "summon sign disappeared." It's not like in Dark Souls 1 where the P2P connections and netcode were just so crappy it didn't work half the time.
justjustin
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I agree the level design is the weakest in the series, but good level design and fast travel are not at odds with each other by nature. Demon's Souls still has the strongest level design, and its layout was partly focused on rewarding players with shortcuts and fast travel options.
None of them seem great at the moment.
Yeah, now you at least get a helpful reason instead of Summoning failed (most of the time). Summoning works better than any other game in the series, except perhaps DS on PC with the friend summoning mod.
I don't think I like this soul memory system at all though
A Sentient Keyboard
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In DS1, I believe it depended on the range stat of the bow you were using (or at least, it was much worse on the shortbow and composite bow than it was on the longbow and blackbow).
Also, if you're taking about the arrow pulling to the left of the reticule, that's apparently totally realistic. Take that, immersion!
God, I hope wikidot becomes the go-to one. I'll contribute to it when I have some time. I can't stand the fextralife one. The layout is completely broken on mobile and there's way too many ads.
AlphaDragoon
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Eh, I don't much care about skill or not when someone invades me. You invaded me to kill me and prevent me from doing what I need to do. I'm not just gonna lose and be like "oh well I lost" if you successfully invade and beat me. I get killed, lose my Human form and souls (if I'm not wearing the right ring), lose my progress in the level and all the enemies come back. So no, invaders...you don't get "skill". You don't get fair. You get whatever cheap underhanded tactic I can think of to get you dead so I can continue on my way. Double summons, turning enemies on the invader, fair game.
Fair fights are for duels.
I think both give me popup redirect ads on mobile... :/
What took getting used to for me was having to continuously hold L1 while aiming. I am hoping that this might be the first souls game where you can wear large brimmed helmets while aiming manually (I haven't found any yet, I'm still early game)
Bleh, try equipping your bow in your left hand. R1 to aim, L1 to fire.
BLEHHHHHH.
If I'm using a bow, it's not like my shield matters; I'd rather put away the shield. That way I can keep my catalyst in my right, so I could use that with my shield. So Dumb.
Amen brother. You come into my world, waste my time, and complain about fairness?
wow, I got screwed out of getting the ring of blades +2
killed one of theas the other killed me, went back and only one was spawning, and that one dropped twinkling titanite upon deathpursuers
bah
How do I unlock this battle? I used an Ascetic at the King's Gate bonfire but it says I still have to beat the "Lord of the quarter". Do I have to fight the final boss first?
Yep. I will set up a trap and make them come to me. And kill them, thus making the time they spent wasted
YianGaruga
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Same thing is true for the other side as well. As an invader I can and should do everything possible to kill you. There is no "fair". If you want fair you can become a dragonbro.
ipitydatfu
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whose idea was it to make those enemies in
shaded woods
Deified Data
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This has been my experience. I'll still be in the DS1 mindset and think to myself "I'll slap my sign down and do this menial chore while I wait to be summoned, by the time I'm done I should get a taker"...but the chore never gets done because I never stop getting summoned. Never had more than a minute pass before getting summoned in this game, it's brilliant.
Summoning others on the other hand, I don't know - I'm still on my first playthrough and haven't tried it yet.
yeah, i prefer the wikidot one too.
The foggy woods? Yea, they're lame. They hardly scratch me. Weak dudes.
Finally more jolly cooperation.
Sometimes part of the fun is starting over with completely different stats. Sure you could use the soul vessel but still the stats are not the same starting stats of the class you might want to pursue now and while its not a huge part for some it is a difference indeed.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Dedicated PVP character to fit within a particular soft level cap maybe?
Yesterday I was having trouble fighting off a dude at the Iron Keep bridge, so I decided to bolt it to the next segment of the area where Smelter Demon is. I didn't see the guy for a while, but I went inside the middle area with them metal door. I went outside after a bit and I saw him. Dude came in and I tried fighting him again. Then I left the area and ran towards the metal stairs. He was shooting arrows and somehow he fell into the lava.
Good times lol. I might try leading more people around the areas since it's fun.
Good times lol. I might try leading more people around the areas since it's fun.
Screaming Meat
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You'd think it wouldn't take that long considering it doesn't take that ages to be summoned.
Someone who knows how to make an area tense. I walked through that area scared out of my mind. It doesn't help that
when they got close enough to you they basically disappear. I was flailing like an idiot and running like a child
I must have hit that area at exactly the right time then, because they messed me up unless I guessed correctly.
I'd do it to see how viable something is from the beginning. Fighting the bosses over in NG+ with all your leveled up gear isn't the same as starting from scratch and trying to upgrade everything along the way, especially because (according to people here, I wouldn't know) they
change the bosses up in NG+ and beyond
AlphaDragoon
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People shouldn't expect fair from invaders. They're already invading you intent on screwing your run through the level and griefing you, so you should know what kind of tactics they'll pull.
Which is why it's perfectly fine to make them rue the day they decided to jump into your world by making them miserable with cheesy tactics and jolly cooperation group beatdowns. XD
Deified Data
Banned
As Kai Dracon and Nito said, some people want to preserve a specific character for PVP or co-op, and don't want that character to outlevel their niche. Plus it's just a lot of fun starting over. The game just came out and I intend on putting hundreds of hours into it.
Just save them. Bastille is a better location if you need to use one.
Yep. They are already not being fair by invading. They can complain all they want against my OP Flame Swath or Sunlight Spears.
justjustin
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Fairness in the Souls series is using whatever options the game gives you to survive. You can't know ahead of time what the other player has at their disposal or how they will act. I'm glad to reciprocate gestures and avoid healing unless absolutely necessary, but that's my choice and there's risk involved in each case.
Use that one in Bastille. The Pharros locks there have good treasures.
KoreanBarbecue
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Thank god for the turbo button on my MadCatz TE. The true Santiers Spear is almost mine!
Out of curiosity, where do you pick that spear up?
test_account
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Regarding summoning NPCs for bosses,
do i have to summon Bernhart for the Throne of Want bosses, or do you i have to summon him for Throne of Want + the last boss at the same fight?
I'm wondering this myself
TeddyShardik
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It's in the doors of pharros area iirc. I think it's hidden behind one of the doors with three panels along with a guard.
Psycho_Mantis
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Wikidot is better. Has a clean layout
http://www.twitch.tv/elajjaz
Ela is doing an all bosses run! I'm watching!
edit: oh he's still learning. still, will be fun to watch
Ela is doing an all bosses run! I'm watching!
edit: oh he's still learning. still, will be fun to watch
Don't worry, you'll find plenty as you progress. I wasted a few and still have 6 in my inventory right now.
A Sentient Keyboard
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In D
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harros
Go into the first rat covenant area, and there will be a big 3-part door on your right. Open it with Pharros' Lockstones (maybe only the bottom part is enough (the Pharros 'face' is in front of the door underwater), otherwise open one of the side parts too) and defeat the Mastodon inside and it'll be in the back.
I got the Raw (true) Santier's Spear +5, which is probably the best version unless you have the stats to pull of elemental or mundane infusion. It has an attack rating of 230. It's pretty good, a full light + light 2H combo can stunlock and kill most things in the game. I usually run with the Tower Shield +10 and Mace +10, but if I really want things dead quick I switch to the Santier's Spear (or my Arced Sword +5 and Murakumo +10, I really like there's so much crafting material in this game, I got multiple fully leveled weapons and I haven't even beaten the game yet).
TeddyShardik
Banned
What ancient? 
The Giant?
The Giant?Other than that there's a black phantom there with a familiar armor set in ng+.
YianGaruga
Banned
It's his first one, so it'll be 5+ hours with lots and lots of deaths and mistakes. Probably still fun to watch though.
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