Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 6: Final Destination confirmed for not fun
- Thread starter IntelliHeath
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Yes and no. It wasn't so much that it was shown off fast, but more that there were barely any hidden newcomers. Brawl has 14 hidden characters. 2 are third parties. 3 are full newcomers (Wolf, Lucario, R.O.B.), and 1's Toon Link which is arguably not a newcomer. The rest are veterans.
Melee, on the other hand, has 11 hidden characters, and only 2 of them are veterans.
I'd be very happy if they were more likely Melee this time, and made almost all the newcomers hidden.
DisconnectD
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Shhhhh, don't let him know we know what he knows, ya know?
And deal with the batshit nonsense that people will spout when there are only a few newcomers revealed pre-release? No thanks.
Eh, fuck 'em. People are gonna spout bullshit regardless. I'd rather have there actually be secrets to uncover this time, since Brawl didn't have many.
DisconnectD
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Agreed. I'd rather every character but maybe one or two (Mewtwo, & Ridley) be revealed pre-release.
Besides, Nintendo and Sakurai desperately need to drum up hype and those release videos are tits awesome and won't have the same effect post-release.
theprodigy
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You care too much about what others think.
DisconnectD
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Hands off his prey
Benzychenz
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To catch up on discussion:
Wonder-Red will be in! I gotta believe!
I'll be getting Wii U version day 1, 3DS version can wait. I want an XL for it for sure, my old 3DS will kill my hands trying to play Smash.
Aaaaaand I'd rather newcomers were kept a secret. I'd avoid Smash discussion as best as I could and play the game nonstop after release and hope I find a surprise character before it gets spoiled
Wonder-Red will be in! I gotta believe!
I'm slowly accepting that Sakurai won't care about any of my favourite characters.
I'll be getting Wii U version day 1, 3DS version can wait. I want an XL for it for sure, my old 3DS will kill my hands trying to play Smash.
Aaaaaand I'd rather newcomers were kept a secret. I'd avoid Smash discussion as best as I could and play the game nonstop after release and hope I find a surprise character before it gets spoiled
DisconnectD
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Did I hear someone say Eggman?
sigh, falco is more likely to be in Smash than Eggy
There is at least hope for Eggman to be in as an AT or better yet, Stage hazard ala Yellow devil. Keep those dirty 6 away from our Smash, based Sakurai
ThaGuy
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The thing about adding newcomers in this game, especially 3rd party newcomers is that the focus/gameplay of the smash bros series can get overwhelming.
What I mean is that if you keep adding people like mega man and sonic, then you add their original gameplay perspective to the smash bros. formula. You need stages, items, moves, and music to match mega mans theme. This is why powerstone was fun in its own way compared to smash bros imo.
What I mean is that if you keep adding people like mega man and sonic, then you add their original gameplay perspective to the smash bros. formula. You need stages, items, moves, and music to match mega mans theme. This is why powerstone was fun in its own way compared to smash bros imo.
DisconnectD
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I agree. It isn't just as simple as adding your favorite viable third party character & calling it a day. You have to add the right stage, music, assist trophy, items and make it all mesh with the formula without feeling out of place, which Sakurai has said many times, which is why Snake, Sonic, & now Megaman are such special cases. There will never be non-primary 3rd party characters or non-iconic ones as long as Sakurai has say so. Mark my words, naruto & batman.
At least Sakurai can add is Dr Eggman and Dr Wily as villains for the game. He wouldn't need to retool the game that much when Sonic and Megaman are already in the game
PadWarrior
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I'm feeling Captain Falcon, if not tonight then on Monday.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Then ignore those people. It's their problem, not your.
What? I don't understand why people aren't interested to unlocking the characters, etc. I guess they got spoiled by majority of fighting games where they don't have to unlocked the characters, as I assumed? I would rather to have unlockable characters that would surprise us when we get the game and trying to find way to unlock them.
Out of curiosity, how many newcomers does everyone think there will be in the end? And considering 5 have already been revealed how many of those should be hidden characters?
Personally I think the Mii and Pacman rumour is true, and one of them will be shown off at E3, so my hidden newcomers would be Mii/Pacman, Ridley, Shulk andBlack Knight Fire Emblem Avatar.
Personally I think the Mii and Pacman rumour is true, and one of them will be shown off at E3, so my hidden newcomers would be Mii/Pacman, Ridley, Shulk and
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I would go with very safe number which is 10, so people wouldn't get disappointed by the final number of newcomers.
My money is on 11-13.
As awesome as it is to have a bunch of newcomers as hidden characters for the surprise factor, it's all going to get leaked online as soon as the game comes out anyway. Because of that I'd kinda prefer to know all the characters prior to the game's release, lol, because it's going to happen one way or another anyway. Times aren't exactly the same as they were when Melee came out and it was easy to keep hidden characters in games a secret.
falconxcrunner09
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Probably around 10-12. And I think Mega Man will be the only hidden character out of the 5.
I say 13 total including the Mii/Pacman leak and accounting for the 5 we know about currently. 10 minimum, 15 max. Don't know what to think regarding hidden newcomers though.
This is true, and it kinda sucks. The only way they can get around leaks is maybe if they release it on the eshop early ala Wind Waker HD. Even still, stuff would probably get out somehow.
I actually meant which newcomers would not be revealed before release at all, but it's interesting you think Mega Man would be the only unlockable one - I'd say Mega Man would be a character people want to use right away, so Little Mac, Wii Fit Trainer and Rosalina & Luma would be unlockable IMO.
Chet Rippo
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Well they did originally plan on having the game released December of 2007.
then you'll have to do the hardest thing imaginable a challenge greater then Dark souls, I wanna be that guy and the sewer level in TMNT combined.
Stay off the internet
Mega Man is a guest character, so it's fitting that he would be unlockable. Sonic and Snake were both hidden in Brawl. I'm not expecting Little Mac, Wii Fit Trainer, or Rosalina & Luma to be hidden. I don't see why hidden non-guest characters would be revealed so far away from release.
falconxcrunner09
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Oh I miss read it. Yeah, Sonic and Snake were announced pretty early on in the dojo and were both unlocakable. I have a feeling that the same.will happen to Mega Man.
theprodigy
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RIP Anth0ny
You guys are right, but it isn't something Nintendo can ignore. The more I think about it, the more I see no reason for there to be unlockable newcomers. Sakurai wants to show the CG stuff in a controlled environment and they need to show reasons why to get the game. Newcomers are the biggest reasons for that.
The trailers are a lot more hype than getting a newcomer thing while playing. Though the latter is more surprising since you may not expect it.
hey i've tried it twice and failed, once for Pokemon Black/White pokemon and again for X/Y mons.
I'm gonna try it again this year when I finally get a Release date, through I don't have a whole lotta faith in it.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
If we ever have unlockable characters then I really hope that people are decent enough to make a smash spoiler thread and post there.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
All of the characters will be unlockable.
Demo mode must be watched for 100 hours before you can unlock Mario.
Demo mode must be watched for 100 hours before you can unlock Mario.
You say this now, but I'm actually surprised that I was able to pull it off for Super Mario Galaxy when it was first coming around. Admittedly, I was kinda waning in Mario love after Sunshine and didn't follow up on it at all until I got my Wii like a month after Brawl dropped, but damn man, I don't know if I'll ever be able to pull something like that off again AND get treated to such an 11/10 experience.
Benzychenz
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Expect "Just unlocked RIDLEY in Smash Bros!!" threads to pop up and ruin your day.
If we get a worldwide launch, I, being in the superior Australian timezone, will be the one to spoil everyone.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I wouldn't make big deal about it but it would depend on the situation tho.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
Internet diet.
Avoid those spoiled diapers.
Avoid those spoiled diapers.
Byronic Hero
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So today's the last day for a character reveal right? Otherwise March will be the only month so far with no characters?
Wait. There's Monday too.
Wait. There's Monday too.
Hahaha That's funny. Spoiler will be spoiled without a second thought sadly.
> Opens NeoGAF December 31, 201X
> Checks gaming side
> The following appear:
"So With Takamaru's appearance in Smash Bros, is a Murasame Castle revival happening?"
"I am so tired of arbitrary unlocks in games. [Smash Related]"
"Video Game Characters who should stay forgotten"
"Playable Ridley Is a Violent Affront to MY sensibilities when Metroid hasn't had a game in X many years"
"Does the Smash 4 Roster show Nintendo is running out of A listers?"
> YOU LOST.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I know pokemon X/Y got their own spoiler thread, and I haven't seen any spoilers in X/Y hype thread. If it work then it should work for Smash too.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
Thread narrative:
Other M killed Metroid
Donkey Kong is beneath Retro
I still think that Ridley is too big
Nintendo doesn't know anything about anything
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thisisvlad
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While we're on the subject of new character reveals, I'd like Sakurai to leverage Fire Emblem's sword/axe/spear triangle into a new-rep. Essentially the character wouldn't be tied down to just a sword, but would have the ability to change his equipment on the fly.
Sword - Average speed and range. Good for mid-range combat. Used to guard against fast characters.
Axe - Slow speed and short range, but extremely powerful. Used to take down heavy brawler characters.
Spear - Would be a Javelin or a Short Spear. Significant throwing range would allow for zoning for other sword characters.
On top of that you'd have a light durability system, so that you can't just spam the spear or over-use the sword as you would either run-out or your weapon would temporarily break. The game would force you to switch around the different fighting 'stances'.
Just a thought I've had ever since I saw the KO meter for Little Mac. Since Sakurai essentially opened the door for more 'meta' characters.
Sword - Average speed and range. Good for mid-range combat. Used to guard against fast characters.
Axe - Slow speed and short range, but extremely powerful. Used to take down heavy brawler characters.
Spear - Would be a Javelin or a Short Spear. Significant throwing range would allow for zoning for other sword characters.
On top of that you'd have a light durability system, so that you can't just spam the spear or over-use the sword as you would either run-out or your weapon would temporarily break. The game would force you to switch around the different fighting 'stances'.
Just a thought I've had ever since I saw the KO meter for Little Mac. Since Sakurai essentially opened the door for more 'meta' characters.