Doesn't he just spit out like 5 fireballs? That's not really the same as a Shinkuu Hadouken of fire.
*couldnt find a picture, but here is a video*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjaRzTSHpZQ#t=149
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 6: Final Destination confirmed for not fun
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Doesn't he just spit out like 5 fireballs? That's not really the same as a Shinkuu Hadouken of fire.
*couldnt find a picture, but here is a video*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjaRzTSHpZQ#t=149
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Baron von Loathsome
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Beelzebufo
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Mario's moveset makes sense because his moveset (before FLUDD) was an homage to Ryu. It makes sense then that his super move is similar to something Ryu would use.
ShockingAlberto
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I think Diddy's was the laziest
"I dunno, just make him glow and fire peanuts, I have a lot of work to do over here"
"I dunno, just make him glow and fire peanuts, I have a lot of work to do over here"
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
26 this April 5th
SenorArdilla
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Donkey Kong: "Any drummer can drop a beat. I'll drop the freaking moon!"
theprodigy
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Haha, good point. I had remembered the Double Dash move being more epic, and had forgotten the Hadkoukenness of Brawl's.
You'd think if either Mario or Bowser was going to get a huge transformation for Brawl, it would have been Mario, coming out in the wake of NSMB DS. (Clearly, Bower's correct Final Smash is to make him throw out an endless stream of hammers while he spits fireballs, a la SMB 1).
"And let's make him invincible for maximum annoyance"
Agreed on both counts. I'd still like final smashes to be a more core part of the gameplay, because they're fun. Unfortunately they arent anywhere close to balanced, and if you have them on as an item they appear too frequently
SenorArdilla
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"Then make him drop peanuts that recover health everywhere! Man, this is brilliant."
Shadow Hog
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That's funny as hell - I'm 26 this April 4th.
astrogamer
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I thought that too but he has both hands up and his expression looks like he is getting hit (see those small pupils)
Red Arremer
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I don't mind Final Smashes being made up as long as they reflect the tone of the character. Since the unspoken concept is that the fighters are toys being played with by children, I like the idea of "Ultimate moves" that kids might think of, such as Mario's Giant fireball or Link's Super tri-force slash.
I think some should definitely change, such as Toon Link's being more reflective of his series, or Donkey Kong's being literally ANYTHING else, but I don't care if they're actual game moves or not.
I think some should definitely change, such as Toon Link's being more reflective of his series, or Donkey Kong's being literally ANYTHING else, but I don't care if they're actual game moves or not.
Exotoro
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give up the dream
I must be the only one who loves the Konga Beat.
Well, I guess I meant more in its execution. I wouldn't mind if it was still Konga themed if it was more effective.
But it's already fantastic. Position yourself right and play to the beat and you can hit the entire stage.
Depends a lot on the size of the stage. And if you can make it to the position.
It's a shittier version of an Assist Trophy already in the game. Sorry D:
Poltergust
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Cool, I'm in the game! =D
powerdrain
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Konga Beat wasn't too bad if you had rhythm and styyyyyle
theprodigy
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:lol
Shadow Hog
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I'll whip your snapper
Where are people getting shitty from?
You all know it's a rhythm game, right? The size and power of it dramatically increase if you hit the beat. It's way better than Barbara.
Troubled Bat
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I wonder if Ness will go through a dramatic change.
I waiting for this joke to show up, lol
I know the range increases if you hit in tune with the beat. It's still a shitty range for all but the very last beat, startup is too long - allowing foes to run out of reach, doesn't deal enough damage and to top it off doesn't deal enough knockback with the last beat.
Shitty move all around imo.
EDIT: Another negative point just came to my mind after using the move in training mode: Each beat pushes the foe further away from you, allowing him to escape the FS.
sonic-just make him yellow and fly really fast.
DK's final smash was the worst.
Super Sonic was an obvious choice.
Luigi getting a full Final Smash change is so cool because it could mean so much for some other folks.
Bowser: While I'm not particularly opposed to Giga Bowser, ShockingAlberto brings up a good point. I'd love to see Bowser get his Clown Car and just chuck bombs, giant bowling balls and generally troll from afar. If not, Meteor Chucking from the background to the active area in a vague call out to both Galaxy/Galaxy 2 and Yoshi's Island would be great.
Peach & Jigglypuff: I feel like her Final Smash would make more sense on Jigglypuff while hers could be changed to either her hilarious Super Princess Peach abilities or the weird Jedi mind trick powers she had in Bowser's Inside Story.
Falco: Give him an Arwing he can play a left to right version of Asteroid in. Whenever he moves off camera to the right, he reappears on the left and vice versa while firing lasers straight forward. Hold A to lock on, B to shoot bombs and L/R to tilt sideways (double tap for Barrel Rolls) if anyone camps the Arwing itself for safety.
Wolf: Call in a Star Wolf bombing raid. Honestly, his would be the hardest to peg because giving him a Wolven makes him directly similar with my theoretical Falco FS, but him staying in a Landmaster parallels him to Fox even more.
Toon Link: Easy. The Windwaker. Seriously, why couldn't he play Ballad of The Gales and summon a typhoon on the stage in Brawl? That wrote itself. Alternatively, he could get the Four Sword and go all Yun using Geneijin in Street Fighter 3 except it's four Links following in sequence.
Ness: PSI Rockin' Omega: Because Smash needs more trippy as balls final smashes, especially with Luigi losing the Weegee Zone/ZA WARUDO.
Ganondorf: Needs a FS to change into a fully controllable version of Ganon. Trident version would be great too.
Kirby: I'm cool with Cook if they buff its area of effect or do something to make it less avoidable. Otherwise, just replace it with Mic or Crash, or one of the crazy things going on in Triple Deluxe.
Donkey Kong: I didn't mind the Bongo FS, but the throwing barrels down rafters at characters idea is hilarious. Alternatively, DK should go full Jungle Beat and get command grab pummels a speed boost and stretchy arms.
Captain Falcon: Keep his the same in beginning animation, but make it so when he's flying down the track, he pops out of the cockpit forward, flares up and throws an explosive punch with this playing in the background.
Lucario & Mewtwo (fingers crossed): Mega forms. Actually, if the Pokemon Trainer comes back, I think it'd be great if he would just Mega evolve the Pokemon he currently had out but I guess that would require Squirte and Ivysaur to do some last minute grinding.
Bowser: While I'm not particularly opposed to Giga Bowser, ShockingAlberto brings up a good point. I'd love to see Bowser get his Clown Car and just chuck bombs, giant bowling balls and generally troll from afar. If not, Meteor Chucking from the background to the active area in a vague call out to both Galaxy/Galaxy 2 and Yoshi's Island would be great.
Peach & Jigglypuff: I feel like her Final Smash would make more sense on Jigglypuff while hers could be changed to either her hilarious Super Princess Peach abilities or the weird Jedi mind trick powers she had in Bowser's Inside Story.
Falco: Give him an Arwing he can play a left to right version of Asteroid in. Whenever he moves off camera to the right, he reappears on the left and vice versa while firing lasers straight forward. Hold A to lock on, B to shoot bombs and L/R to tilt sideways (double tap for Barrel Rolls) if anyone camps the Arwing itself for safety.
Wolf: Call in a Star Wolf bombing raid. Honestly, his would be the hardest to peg because giving him a Wolven makes him directly similar with my theoretical Falco FS, but him staying in a Landmaster parallels him to Fox even more.
Toon Link: Easy. The Windwaker. Seriously, why couldn't he play Ballad of The Gales and summon a typhoon on the stage in Brawl? That wrote itself. Alternatively, he could get the Four Sword and go all Yun using Geneijin in Street Fighter 3 except it's four Links following in sequence.
Ness: PSI Rockin' Omega: Because Smash needs more trippy as balls final smashes, especially with Luigi losing the Weegee Zone/ZA WARUDO.
Ganondorf: Needs a FS to change into a fully controllable version of Ganon. Trident version would be great too.
Kirby: I'm cool with Cook if they buff its area of effect or do something to make it less avoidable. Otherwise, just replace it with Mic or Crash, or one of the crazy things going on in Triple Deluxe.
Donkey Kong: I didn't mind the Bongo FS, but the throwing barrels down rafters at characters idea is hilarious. Alternatively, DK should go full Jungle Beat and get command grab pummels a speed boost and stretchy arms.
Captain Falcon: Keep his the same in beginning animation, but make it so when he's flying down the track, he pops out of the cockpit forward, flares up and throws an explosive punch with this playing in the background.
Bonus points if he plays helmet less after that point.
Lucario & Mewtwo (fingers crossed): Mega forms. Actually, if the Pokemon Trainer comes back, I think it'd be great if he would just Mega evolve the Pokemon he currently had out but I guess that would require Squirte and Ivysaur to do some last minute grinding.
Not sure if serious...
Don't tell me you don't know about Super Sonic?
The range is about the size of Final Destination if you're timing it well. Every third beat should pull opponents in. There's no build-up, you should be able to do a max size beat from the very beginning.
I'd say it's about a second from pressing B to the first sound wave. That's plenty of time to get away from the attack.
And even assuming a perfect scenario - no one manages to run away, you hit all beats, all foes actually die (which pretty much has never happened to me or any of my friends, even when hitting all beats perfectly) you still only have three kills max.
Compared to the Final Smashes which grant more kills (e.g. Landmaster and sometimes Super Sonic) or who also have three kills max. but are way easier to set up (e.g. Ganondorf) you have a pretty bad Final Smash at hand. It just doesn't kill reliably enough.
I'd say that's more a fault of the Landmaster and Super Sonic being ridiculous than anything.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I'm very pleased with the update today. I really hope that we will get more better final smash.
Oh you, little whippersnapper.
MrSaturn99
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For what were supposedly "lazy" ideas, I thought DK and Diddy's Final Smashes were tremendously fun to pull off.
And all captain falcon does is hit you with some car! I mean, COME ON!
theprodigy
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and here I thought when playing with items on, the stage of choice would be bigger than Final Destination
My friends and I generally pick the smaller stages like Green Greens, Battlefield and Delfino Plaza. Just preference. There's a lot of small-ish stages in Brawl.
Nah, man, my stage choices are always small-to-medium sized, so that shit gets done faster.
Well, small-to-medium sized and Hyrule Temple. That stage is special. Shit goes down there.
Specifically here:
yeeeaaah.