digoutyoursoul
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Lack of EA support though
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P. Spencer: The biggest request is to bring back Shenmue
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Superb system in my opinion, I used the built in chat room too at times,like a mini NeoGaf
Lack of EA support though
EteRnal PAL
Member
I would buy a second Xbone or PS4 if Shenmue 3 is released on either system. Make it happen Phil...
sechsterangriff
Member
Maybe not those, but definitely a Yakuza budget would be more than enough.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
It didn't make money for some executive AND it didn't move a significant number of consoles. What justification could they have for making it if it won't be profitable on its own and the "prestige" it brings to the platform bears no tangible fruit? There simply aren't enough people who give a shit for Shenmue 3 to have any benefit to a single platform holder.
To have even a chance at being funded by a platform holder, wouldn't S3 need to have an even lower budget than Shenmue 1 and 2 did? What could possibly be made under those circumstances that would satisfy anyone involved?
AlwaysPlaying
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holy shitake mushrooms. wouldnt it be grand if Shenmue 3 was on the distant horizon. I hope...
Do you think both of those games were made knowing they would sell like shit? Do you believe Sony producers had a meeting and came to the conclusion that "Ya know, these are gonna sell like fucking trash but lets fund them out anyway!" ?
Both Shenmue games had massive budgets and didn't sell well enough, Shenmue Online was quietly canceled due to budget and lack of interest, and Shenmue City was shut down after a year because nobody played it. I'm sure this all sounds really appealing to Microsoft, financially. They'll jump right on this. Not to mention if SEGA even wants to do another, when they could just do more Yakuza games.
Syphon Filter
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AlwaysPlaying
Member
I am a big Shenmue fan, but I'm afraid it's been too long. A Shenmue on the Xbox or PS2 would have made sense, maybe last gen as well, but now? The gameplay systems of Shenmue would just feel completely outdated at this point. For the game to make sense it would need to be almost completely reimagined from the ground up. I don't see what studio would want to do that and is capable of doing it while doing credit to the Shenmue series.
FacelessSamurai
..but cry so much I wish I had some
I would cry of joy if that actually happened. Actually, MS should get a lot of OG Xbox stuff back. Those were the days...
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cKOv7qWm-_I
Just saw Again shenmue intro. So good even 15 years after the launch of the first game
Just saw Again shenmue intro. So good even 15 years after the launch of the first game
Syphon Filter
Member
They don't have any justification. It would be a financial dud but financing duds has happened before and will happen again across all industries. Hell, Platinum Games still gets work despite making bombas. Giving people Shenmue 3 would be for the prestige and goodwill of a few. But it'd be nice for those people who would play and enjoy it.
When push comes to shove, I'm of the belief that Shenmue 3 won't happen, but it's a nice thought. The speculation of "it's happening, not happening" is enough to help me remember how memorable and fun my experiences were with the original games and maybe to revisit them when I have time.
And maybe that's enough. I'm not going to shit on the people who want it though, just as I wouldn't shit on the people who want a Phantom Dust 2 or Half-Life 3 or Yakuza 5 or Final Fantasy Type-0 etc.
Steverulez
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I loved Shenmue, but I don't think it would be a financial success today (which is ultimately what it boils down to)
I think SEGA and Sony missed the boat on not getting Shenmue on PSP, I think if they could have improved the load times, when the PSP was selling well in Japan I think it would have done well for the third one.
Still can't believe they didn't do any sort of HD version of I/II on 360/PS3 either...
I think SEGA and Sony missed the boat on not getting Shenmue on PSP, I think if they could have improved the load times, when the PSP was selling well in Japan I think it would have done well for the third one.
Still can't believe they didn't do any sort of HD version of I/II on 360/PS3 either...
Syphon Filter
Member
Crimson Dragon was a game that wouldn't succeed today and they put it out. Heck even KI.
Steverulez
Member
Is Crimson Dragon not a game much smaller in scope than Shenmue though? I mean being realistic, so is Killer Instinct... I don't think its a particularly good comparison.
Syphon Filter
Member
Not at all, i don't see KI being smaller than a Shenmue.
KI is a fighting game that's been asked for by fans for years and years, not really something that's a hard sell.
Crimson Dragon was a Xbox 360 arcade game exclusively for kinect ported to the Xbox One and given controller support...not exactly a huge money sink there.
Hahahahahaha what?
Shenmue was a 100 million dollar affair. Do you really think KI came anywhere close to that as a free to play fighter developed by Double Helix?
FunkyPajamas
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I'd buy an Xbox One if they went back to the type, quality AND amount of games that came out for the original Xbox.
Syphon Filter
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Then take the same approach with Shenmue as they did with kI. I dont want the same COD type games all the time,take risks already. Phil said it himself that early in a gen they need to take risks.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Ha..wasnt there a sony thread like this couple months ago?
Should Shenmue be a free to play game developed by a studio with a sketchy track record who MAYBE will make a good game for a low budget?
PapaJustify
Member
People still bring on the production costs as an argument, while actually I think that the production cost would not necessarily be as high as it was back in 2000, because times have changed.
Shenmue I+II were overly ambitious for their time and used cutting edge technology that was expensive.
Today, you can get access to the two most advanced game engines for $20/mo. (I know that is for indies only, but still...). Great asset pipelines and tools, motion capturing and voice acting are common these days.
I don't know. I just don't feel the costs would need to be exorbitant today.
Shenmue I+II were overly ambitious for their time and used cutting edge technology that was expensive.
Today, you can get access to the two most advanced game engines for $20/mo. (I know that is for indies only, but still...). Great asset pipelines and tools, motion capturing and voice acting are common these days.
I don't know. I just don't feel the costs would need to be exorbitant today.
Takamura-San
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I think that Sony setup this trap to get Microsoft to publish and develop a 100 million dollar shenmue to have them close the division.
All of this is going according to Cerny Keikaku.
All of this is going according to Cerny Keikaku.
It's both, and Vanquish 2.
HoodWinked
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just imagine... xbox conference rolls to a close. Phil Spencer thanking the crowd and walking off stage.
then utters "and one more thing".
*shenmue theme comes on"
cue the montage of scenes from shenmue1+2
epic narriation "Ryo Hazuki continues his epic journey in the next installment of the Shenmue seires" fade in of Next Gen Ryo Hazuki set in Hong Kong running around the streets collecting mini capsule toys, and playing old sega classics. Ends with Shenmue 3 logo.
audience goes nuts grown men in tears, with raging boners. the cheering is deafening.
then utters "and one more thing".
*shenmue theme comes on"
cue the montage of scenes from shenmue1+2
epic narriation "Ryo Hazuki continues his epic journey in the next installment of the Shenmue seires" fade in of Next Gen Ryo Hazuki set in Hong Kong running around the streets collecting mini capsule toys, and playing old sega classics. Ends with Shenmue 3 logo.
audience goes nuts grown men in tears, with raging boners. the cheering is deafening.
Syphon Filter
Member
KI is not free to play,you can get the game for $20.
Gunvalkyrie Chronicles. Oh my.
Emperor Bohe
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hell yes. had so much fun with my OG Xbox back in the day.
Acquiescence
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I'd buy an Xbone for Shenmue III, gladly. About the only thing that could convince me to shell out cash for the console right about now.
But Shenmue II came out on the OG Xbox and flopped tremendously let's not forget. I actually still own a copy, along with the Dreamcast version as well, so I did my part.
But Shenmue II came out on the OG Xbox and flopped tremendously let's not forget. I actually still own a copy, along with the Dreamcast version as well, so I did my part.
Pristine_Condition
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I'm guessing the "biggest request is Shenmue" thing is only because the request to "get your out-of-touch asses into a fucking time machine and redux everything from the design, planning, and marketing stages of the TV/Kinect box" isn't a realistic option.
Cave Johnson
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Shenmue 3 will automatically seal the deal for buying an X1 no matter how many good and "excellent" titles on the PS4.
Giant Panda
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No one should get their hopes up at this point. Spencer has probably teased 20 games or so that aren't actually happening at this point in time.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
Can we start a twitter campaign?
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I just don't think Shenmue would sell. I think the hardcore online message board crowd would go apeshit as everyone else looked at us in embarrassment. With development costs the way they are, it would be a costly mistake to listen to us.
That would be amazing. I would certainly buy an X1 for another Shenmue or JSR.
WrathEater
Banned
Make it happen Phil. Bring back the original Xbox glory days. The days when Microsoft took chances with new IP's. It's time to let Rare off the leash and to be all about the games.
Give us sequels to:
Project Gotham Racing
Proper Banjo
Conker
Kameo
Ninety-Nine Nights
Perfect Dark
Blast Corps
Crackdown
Dead or Alive
Lost Odyssey
Age of Empires on PC
Don't ship games until they are ready (i.e. Forza, Dead Rising).
**Do a deal with Sega for MONEY to gain access to some of their awesome IP's like Shenmue and Phantasy Star Online**
Give us sequels to:
Project Gotham Racing
Proper Banjo
Conker
Kameo
Ninety-Nine Nights
Perfect Dark
Blast Corps
Crackdown
Dead or Alive
Lost Odyssey
Age of Empires on PC
Don't ship games until they are ready (i.e. Forza, Dead Rising).
**Do a deal with Sega for MONEY to gain access to some of their awesome IP's like Shenmue and Phantasy Star Online**
FairXchange
Member
That would be awesome, here's hoping.
Of course. Go ahead. And if you succeed, you will have the internet at your feet and you can ride the popularity wave for awhile until you blunder it all in an extraordinary faux pas.
LukasTaves
Member
The true reason they named this console Xbox one!
just imagine... xbox conference rolls to a close. Phil Spencer thanking the crowd and walking off stage.
then utters "and one more thing".
*shenmue theme comes on"
cue the montage of scenes from shenmue1+2
epic narriation "Ryo Hazuki continues his epic journey in the next installment of the Shenmue seires" fade in of Next Gen Ryo Hazuki set in Hong Kong running around the streets collecting mini capsule toys, and playing old sega classics. Ends with Shenmue 3 logo.
audience goes nuts grown men in tears, with raging boners. the cheering is deafening.
haha! that would be like the most fucking impressive E3 ever!
in fact, if this thing ever happens, I guess they will have to burn down the LA convention center and totally move the expo somewhere else, under a new name, because E3 as we know it would have overachieved its purpose in life 8)