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Was Demon of Song supposed to be...hard? Thats...thats like some kind of joke. Surely he couldn't be that easy. I beat him in 1 go with ease. His attacks were sad, it's like he just kinda gave up on life. He attackedlike an old man. Hardest fight so far was Mirror Knight, goddamn he was hard.
 
Holy fuck the Dark Spirit in the the Shrine of A is fucking broken. I can't get near him, he moves so fast in the water and just spams his great soul arrow.
 
I never did much Co-op in previous souls games, but I'm enjoying it a lot right now. I've been doing a lot in
Iron Keep
since the summon wait time is almost zero. The biggest annoyance is the host getting killed too quickly to
Smelter Demon. I did about 10 runs on this boss and only 1 was successful. I got killed once when I got careless, but the rest are all the host's just begin clueless. Still having fun, but I wish I had more Sun Medals. Any other good spots to get Sun Medals at around Lvl 90? I don't have all 4 boss souls yet so I only have so much to go on.
 
A Sentient Keyboard said:
So, the last thing to do before I head to NG+ is to kill the A
ncient
D
ragon
. I heard he's an asshole, so can I get some tips? I'm playing as a STR+FTH build (using a heide greatlance/black knight ultra greatsword and a tower shield, with a dragon chime, pyromancy flame and sea bow in other slots).
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Stay on his hind legs initially. Don't get greedy (as with most bosses) and only attack just enough. The fight is just one of extreme patience. Don't let your stamina run out because you need enough to book it. So at his back legs, he has a leg pound and that's just more time to attack. The move everyone (seems to) hate is his big ass fire AoE. It will kill you in one hit. So as soon as you see him start flapping his wings (always just have your eye on his wings, everything else is irrelevant), staring running backwards and away.

This is important. People will tell you to look for his tail and run to that. Ignore them. It takes too much time to look for where he is going. I ignored them pretty quickly after following that advice for two attempts and realized it was just a bunch of bull. I beat him 5 tries and didn't have any trouble after I ditched this "tip". The best most consistent way to avoid the fire is
1) know it's coming by paying attention to the wings at all times
2) AS SOON as you notice flapping, starting running away and out to the outer edge. Bee line away from where he was formerly sitting and to the farthest edge. Anticipating the fire helps a ton, but always run away from the center of where he was standing (Imagine a giant black pit where he was when he ascends). DO NOT run across this pit. It takes too much time to get far away this way. This is where...
the important steps come in:
3) You have to be incredibly mindful of where the dragon is currently standing in the arena. Is there enough room to run away where you are currently standing? Is there enough distance and length to the edge? You want to keep your self at the back leg that is farthest from an edge and this should give you enough room. Do not be afraid to run under the dragon to switch sides (careful that this may trigger a tail swing).
4) If you feel there is not enough room in either direction, start to anticipate the ascent into the area much more. Give yourself more room from when you begin to run away. Again, this is a battle of patience. You don't have to be constantly hitting him. And when he begins to fall down, reanalyze where he is and how much room there is to run.
5) Lastly, when he descends and lands on the ground, stand in front of him! Not like right up in his face, but stand a bit out (not too far though or you will get burnt to a crisp!). This will usually and almost always trigger his frontal fire breath. This gives you a huge amount of time to run to his back leg and get a good number of hits in. You want to attempt to trigger this every time his descends. However, don't force it, if he's not far enough from you or you have to run a lot to get in front of him, just try again the next time around.

Being in a good position to run out and away from the fire is the most important thing to take away. Again, I did not have any trouble with this fight. Every time I died I knew it was because I was in a bad position when he begin to ascend. If you have *A TON* of stamina, you can try and block the fire. But you need to be insanely stacked in stamina. No amount of fire defense will save you. So try and be as mobile and ready to run as possible.

Hope this helps you! And probably anyone else that needs it. The A
ncient
D
ragon
is giving a lot of people trouble but hopefully this little few steps will help you consistently be able to find success.
 
Go to fucking hell Dark Spirit Kindar, you fucking coward. Why don't you face me like a real man instead of running away like a little girl? What's that you can't take the heat? Too bad, enjoy my sword up your ass. I hate, hate, HATE cowardly villains who run away and nuke you from afar.
 
Orthogonal said:
I never did much Co-op in previous souls games, but I'm enjoying it a lot right now. I've been doing a lot in
Iron Keep
since the summon wait time is almost zero. The biggest annoyance is the host getting killed too quickly to
Smelter Demon. I did about 10 runs on this boss and only 1 was successful. I got killed once when I got careless, but the rest are all the host's just begin clueless. Still having fun, but I wish I had more Sun Medals. Any other good spots to get Sun Medals at around Lvl 90? I don't have all 4 boss souls yet so I only have so much to go on.
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Summon spot
I was getting near constant summons for the Earthen Peak boss...though I'd put my sign down where the poison pool used to be so you don't end up getting summoned to a world where it isn't drained
 
Oh man - I just beat the
Darklurker
on the first try; was very tough. Didn't get the armor though =/

Did I miss something?

I didn't get climax either...did I miss a chest :( Oh fuck. Please tell me I can back in there.

edit: PHEW I just had to come back again and talk to him to get the rank up. I was getting worried lol.
 
Gizzie87 said:
Has anyone else
tried getting themselves summoned in for the looking glass boss?
. Only just started trying and it seems to be taking an age.
Would have felt certain that there would be way more people doing the boss than getting summoned.
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Been trying to do the same, but either I'm missing something or am at the point where everyone knows and just
pre-emptively summons anyone to clear it up and keep the boss fight saner. Shame, I want to try it out rather than a normal old PvP match.
 
I think it's finally time to restat my character.

The last 10-15 levels have gone to DEX because... I don't know where else to put them:


DSC_0566_zps92b7874c.jpg



Any recommendation of what I could do?
From what I'm seeing most people go with a mixed build, and quite honestly I'm not noticing much bonus damage from 40 dex to 50 dex

I want to keep focusing on DEX, I've allways used katanas and that's not going to change. But I guess it would be better to combine it with something else... miracles? Hexes? Pyromancy? Any advice?



Any advice?
 
Zocano said:
Stay on his hind legs initially. Don't get greedy (as with most bosses) and only attack just enough. The fight is just one of extreme patience. Don't let your stamina run out because you need enough to book it. So at his back legs, he has a leg pound and that's just more time to attack. The move everyone (seems to) hate is his big ass fire AoE. It will kill you in one hit. So as soon as you see him start flapping his wings (always just have your eye on his wings, everything else is irrelevant), staring running backwards and away.

This is important. People will tell you to look for his tail and run to that. Ignore them. It takes too much time to look for where he is going. I ignored them pretty quickly after following that advice for two attempts and realized it was just a bunch of bull. I beat him 5 tries and didn't have any trouble after I ditched this "tip". The best most consistent way to avoid the fire is
1) know it's coming by paying attention to the wings at all times
2) AS SOON as you notice flapping, starting running away and out to the outer edge. Bee line away from where he was formerly sitting and to the farthest edge. Anticipating the fire helps a ton, but always run away from the center of where he was standing (Imagine a giant black pit where he was when he ascends). DO NOT run across this pit. It takes too much time to get far away this way. This is where...
the important steps come in:
3) You have to be incredibly mindful of where the dragon is currently standing in the arena. Is there enough room to run away where you are currently standing? Is there enough distance and length to the edge? You want to keep your self at the back leg that is farthest from an edge and this should give you enough room. Do not be afraid to run under the dragon to switch sides (careful that this may trigger a tail swing).
4) If you feel there is not enough room in either direction, start to anticipate the ascent into the area much more. Give yourself more room from when you begin to run away. Again, this is a battle of patience. You don't have to be constantly hitting him. And when he begins to fall down, reanalyze where he is and how much room there is to run.
5) Lastly, when he descends and lands on the ground, stand in front of him! Not like right up in his face, but stand a bit out (not too far though or you will get burnt to a crisp!). This will usually and almost always trigger his frontal fire breath. This gives you a huge amount of time to run to his back leg and get a good number of hits in. You want to attempt to trigger this every time his descends. However, don't force it, if he's not far enough from you or you have to run a lot to get in front of him, just try again the next time around.

Being in a good position to run out and away from the fire is the most important thing to take away. Again, I did not have any trouble with this fight. Every time I died I knew it was because I was in a bad position when he begin to ascend. If you have *A TON* of stamina, you can try and block the fire. But you need to be insanely stacked in stamina. No amount of fire defense will save you. So try and be as mobile and ready to run as possible.

Hope this helps you! And probably anyone else that needs it. The A
ncient
D
ragon
is giving a lot of people trouble but hopefully this little few steps will help you consistently be able to find success.
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Thanks for the in-depth response!
 
Fbh said:
I think it's finally time to restat my character.

The last 10-15 levels have gone to DEX because... I don't know where else to put them:


DSC_0566_zps92b7874c.jpg



Any recommendation of what I could do?
From what I'm seeing most people go with a mixed build, and quite honestly I'm not noticing much bonus damage from 40 dex to 50 dex

I want to keep focusing on DEX, I've allways used katanas and that's not going to change. But I guess it would be better to combine it with something else... miracles? Hexes? Pyromancy? Any advice?



Any advice?
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Where do you get that cool dragon armor?
 
AlimNassor said:
Was Demon of Song supposed to be...hard? Thats...thats like some kind of joke. Surely he couldn't be that easy. I beat him in 1 go with ease. His attacks were sad, it's like he just kinda gave up on life. He attackedlike an old man. Hardest fight so far was Mirror Knight, goddamn he was hard.
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He's the only boss I beat in all of the souls games with the bow (not counting the dragons or that nun in the valley of defilement).
 
The Boat said:
Somehow I managed to put more than 50 hours in the game since launch and my PS3 died last night :x Fuckin YLOD. I'm trying all the known methods to see if I can save my save files, if not... I don't think I can pick the game up again for a long time. Fucking hell. I hate modern save systems.
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there are easy (temporarily) fixes for that. enough time to get any saves to safety. just youtube ylod fix.
 
Zocano said:
Stay on his hind legs initially. Don't get greedy (as with most bosses) and only attack just enough. The fight is just one of extreme patience. Don't let your stamina run out because you need enough to book it. So at his back legs, he has a leg pound and that's just more time to attack. The move everyone (seems to) hate is his big ass fire AoE. It will kill you in one hit. So as soon as you see him start flapping his wings (always just have your eye on his wings, everything else is irrelevant), staring running backwards and away.

This is important. People will tell you to look for his tail and run to that. Ignore them. It takes too much time to look for where he is going. I ignored them pretty quickly after following that advice for two attempts and realized it was just a bunch of bull. I beat him 5 tries and didn't have any trouble after I ditched this "tip". The best most consistent way to avoid the fire is
1) know it's coming by paying attention to the wings at all times
2) AS SOON as you notice flapping, starting running away and out to the outer edge. Bee line away from where he was formerly sitting and to the farthest edge. Anticipating the fire helps a ton, but always run away from the center of where he was standing (Imagine a giant black pit where he was when he ascends). DO NOT run across this pit. It takes too much time to get far away this way. This is where...
the important steps come in:
3) You have to be incredibly mindful of where the dragon is currently standing in the arena. Is there enough room to run away where you are currently standing? Is there enough distance and length to the edge? You want to keep your self at the back leg that is farthest from an edge and this should give you enough room. Do not be afraid to run under the dragon to switch sides (careful that this may trigger a tail swing).
4) If you feel there is not enough room in either direction, start to anticipate the ascent into the area much more. Give yourself more room from when you begin to run away. Again, this is a battle of patience. You don't have to be constantly hitting him. And when he begins to fall down, reanalyze where he is and how much room there is to run.
5) Lastly, when he descends and lands on the ground, stand in front of him! Not like right up in his face, but stand a bit out (not too far though or you will get burnt to a crisp!). This will usually and almost always trigger his frontal fire breath. This gives you a huge amount of time to run to his back leg and get a good number of hits in. You want to attempt to trigger this every time his descends. However, don't force it, if he's not far enough from you or you have to run a lot to get in front of him, just try again the next time around.

Being in a good position to run out and away from the fire is the most important thing to take away. Again, I did not have any trouble with this fight. Every time I died I knew it was because I was in a bad position when he begin to ascend. If you have *A TON* of stamina, you can try and block the fire. But you need to be insanely stacked in stamina. No amount of fire defense will save you. So try and be as mobile and ready to run as possible.

Hope this helps you! And probably anyone else that needs it. The A
ncient
D
ragon
is giving a lot of people trouble but hopefully this little few steps will help you consistently be able to find success.
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That tactic takes way to much time and you risk getting yourself into an endless loop. Why run away towards the edge of the arena? The "follow the tail shadow" tactic works wonders and you get to be close to his legs at all times, dishing damage constanly.
Sometimes when you run away from the fire you still get hit, even if you're running towards the fog door. I tried it once and never again. basically the guy has a set area/range, and if you use that tactic you have to constanly be aware of the space you have to run from him. Following his tail you don't have to worry, he has a blind spot on the 2nd third of his tail and beyond. Only drawback of this tactic is that sometimes his AI will get all messed up if you're fighting him close to the edge of the arena, but that is extremely rare in my experience.

Keep under 30% load, don't get greedy with the swings, leave a fifth/sixth of the stamina bar in order to run if needed and the guy will never hit you. It's kinda weird but this guy is simultaneously one of the cheapest and easiest bosses in the series.

No strategy is fool proof, but I think this one has a lot less to worry about and improvise in a jiffy, which is needed when you're fighting a guy who can and will one shot you everytime.
 
Of course i kill the damn
dark lurker
on my first attempt back from rage quitting the fight last time. Jeeezus, this game.
 
Fbh said:
I think it's finally time to restat my character.

The last 10-15 levels have gone to DEX because... I don't know where else to put them:


DSC_0566_zps92b7874c.jpg



Any recommendation of what I could do?
From what I'm seeing most people go with a mixed build, and quite honestly I'm not noticing much bonus damage from 40 dex to 50 dex

I want to keep focusing on DEX, I've allways used katanas and that's not going to change. But I guess it would be better to combine it with something else... miracles? Hexes? Pyromancy? Any advice?



Any advice?
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I would take some points and invest in Atn and Int, so that you could apply magic buffs to the katana. I actually have a similar build to yours and katanas are also among my favourite weapon types. If you can get enough INT to buff them, they get even better. I assume you are the nimble type, to I wouldn't worry too much about VIT right now.

I'm gonna have to respec my character too, very soon. Will try to remove some points from ADP and put them into ATT, see if it affects my AGL too much or not. Other than that will start to invest more in INT/FAI, cause I'm already covered in terms of STR and DEX.
 
E92 M3 said:
Where do you get that cool dragon armor?
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You get it rather late game

In the Dragon Shrine:

You find a petrified egg which you need to give to the merchant in Iron Forge.
He will let you Join the dragon something covenant.

Afterwards you can leave a special summoning sign (or summon people from the covenant) for a fight. If you win you get a dragon scale.
Turn in 10 and you get the helm, turn in 20 and you get the rest.

The bridge that connects the first bonfire with Iron Forge is a great place to do this. It's full of summoning signs of covenant members or you can place one and it honestly won't take more than 30 secconds for you to get summoned.

Be warned though that it's not a regular armor. You get a stone and if you use it you equip the armor (and can't unequip it until you die). Plus you get some extra skills if you use the stone while you have the armor equiped (the head stone will give you a terrible fire attack and the armor stone will give you extra damage for a few secconds).

The armor itself looks awesome (which is why I use it :P ) but it's not very good (give you something like 120 defence) and can't be upgraded.
On the plus side it's ridiculously Light. You can equip basically any sword/shield combination and still be able to roll
 
Wake said:
Tell me this pattern.
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From far away he'll either breathe fire at you or do his AoE.

If you're close:

From the front he'll:

- Breathe fire in a straight line, same as before
- Try to hit you with his neck
- Breathe fire close to his belly, easy punishable
- AoE attack

From behind, hind legs:

- Stomp, easily avoidable and easy to punish, short range (move to his other leg or just wait)
- AoE attack

From behind, close to the tail

- Tail stomp, two times. Close range, easy to avoid and punish if you don't get greedy/overconfident
- AoE Attack

Sometimes he'll do a minor jump to reset his position in case you're fighting to close to an edge of the arena, as that messes his AI up a little. Was never hit by hit by I would assume it does the same DMG as when he's landing after his AoE attack, so maybe that counts as an attack?


Some of these attacks are easy to fish for, especially the fire breathing in a straight line, the leg and tail stomp. If you're lucky he'll do them like 2-3 times in a row, allowing you 3-4 hits in between each motion. This guy's a pushover. Once you know how to avoid his AoE he's got nothing and it's easy to manipulate his Ai.
 
I was under the impression sin carries over from NG to + and previous playthrough sin can't be wiped?

So I basically don't want to change playthroughs without clearing my sin (unless I want the sin of course)?
 
Wake said:
Tell me this pattern.
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A
ncient
D
ragon
Boss Fight Spoilers:

If you stay at the right side of his tail (right side meaning, you're facing the same direction as he is and are on his right) and attack the tail for the entire fight, he will do the following:

1. Tail slam. You respond by running a bit to the right and then running to his rear right leg and attacking while he slams on the left side. It's important you don't get greedy because you need to run back to the tail and make sure you have stamina because he will follow this up with....

2. Aerial flame breath. If you've been following my instructions so far, he will rotate clockwise (pretend his tail is the hand on a clock; it spins clockwise around the arena). You need to chase the tip of his tail in order to not get hit by the fire. After this attack he will land. Make sure he lands with you back in the position you were at before (to the right of his tail).
Rinse and repeat. He did nothing but those two things in that exact same order with the exact same timing over and over until he was dead when I did this.
 
SlasherJPC said:
So I get a guy into my game. We make it all the way to the chariot boss, and then he immediatly runs to the right and off the cliff! WTF. I laughed but then I totally was caught off guard and died.
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I died like that. Was helping and host went right, I had never gone right before so I followed him thinking he knew something I didn't . . . wait wo- *fall*
 
Pvp is laggy as hell. Trying to farm lockstones, but it looks like that won't be happening anytime soon.
Dead at grey phantoms summoning me into their world and then proceeds to hide behind the mastadons. Cowards!
 
Finally beat those fucking sentinels. Man that was a hateful fight, even with the npc. Honestly I had an easier time with O and S.

Hunts mans copse is great so far, reminds me of demons souls

I've currently got the heide knight sword +4, after using the claymore for all of dark souls. Is this a good choice? What would suit better? I like speed, but hitting hard is also very important to me.
 
Fbh said:
You get it rather late game

In the Dragon Shrine:

You find a petrified egg which you need to give to the merchant in Iron Forge.
He will let you Join the dragon something covenant.

Afterwards you can leave a special summoning sign (or summon people from the covenant) for a fight. If you win you get a dragon scale.
Turn in 10 and you get the helm, turn in 20 and you get the rest.

The bridge that connects the first bonfire with Iron Forge is a great place to do this. It's full of summoning signs of covenant members or you can place one and it honestly won't take more than 30 secconds for you to get summoned.

Be warned though that it's not a regular armor. You get a stone and if you use it you equip the armor (and can't unequip it until you die). Plus you get some extra skills if you use the stone while you have the armor equiped (the head stone will give you a terrible fire attack and the armor stone will give you extra damage for a few secconds).

The armor itself looks awesome (which is why I use it :P ) but it's not very good (give you something like 120 defence) and can't be upgraded.
On the plus side it's ridiculously Light. You can equip basically any sword/shield combination and still be able to roll
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Thanks - I'm fighting dragon folk right now.
 
Prolonging the end of the game - literally having only
Nashandra
left to fight - cuz I have anxiety over maybe missing some secrets/items/weapons/spells etc in the first playthrough. Need to slap this "100% everything first before moving on" mentality out of me, urghhh.
 
Arcayne said:
Prolonging the end of the game - literally having only
Nashandra
left to fight - cuz I have anxiety over maybe missing some secrets/items/weapons/spells etc in the first playthrough. Need to slap this "100% everything first before moving on" mentality out of me, urghhh.
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You can still do stuff after that fight. So don't worry about going straight into NG+ after that boss fight.
 
Hey fellas,

Just a quick question about dual wielding. I'm at 42/26 str/dex and dual wielding the flame longsword+3 and Dragonslayer's Crescent Axe.

It seems when I use the Longsword with 2 hands I do just as much damage as dual wielding both, yet with a significant speed adv...what's up with that? Is it because the dex rating on the axe is E?

Does swapping hands make a major difference?
 
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