Well it used to be that you only need to put 27 points in STR to get the maximum 40/40 scaling, since the STR increase for 2 handing a weapon in DS1 applied to both the weapon requirements and the scaling value, but I remember someone in here saying it didn't work that way in this game, so 40/40 STR/DEX would probably be a true quality build now.
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Well it used to be that you only need to put 27 points in STR to get the maximum 40/40 scaling, since the STR increase for 2 handing a weapon in DS1 applied to both the weapon requirements and the scaling value, but I remember someone in here saying it didn't work that way in this game, so 40/40 STR/DEX would probably be a true quality build now.
MikeE21286
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Those god damn
are driving me nuts. They must have killed me like 20 times at least. I've used like 5 effigies trying to summon to already.
ugh.
Ruin Sentinels
ugh.
Deified Data
Banned
Those are the weapons that interest me - looking to power stance katanas and whatnot.
AlimNassor
Banned
okay, I'm officially at my wits end here. Please someone give me some advice. I can't deal with this many fucking hard enemies. 1? Fine, but 8 not possible. I don't get how nobody is having any issues with this area...you think an area with a shitton of super strong fast enemies would make people struggle. Apparently not.
Orthogonal
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Is it possible to pull 1 at a time from range?
Wait, are there actually Katanas that have decent STR scaling?
Well the key is to drawn them out one at the time. Also, the mace guys have infinite stamina so engage them with long range. Do you have a bow or any magic?
AlimNassor
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No, it's the Drake Keepers and the guardian statues. The drake keepers are never alone and never stop attacking, and the statues are super fast, high HP and always manage to parry me. Even 1 at a time, every enemy here is like super tough. The giant sword drake keepers hitme through my shield, and have good tracking. The only ones that are easy to kill are the shields. But thats the problem, you go up that giant ass stairs andyou have 2 keepers, 2 statues, 2 more keepers, and 2 more statue enemies and a dark spirit NPC.
Man, that's what I'm not understanding about this game. For the last one tons of people have issues with bosses, or levels, but, apparently nobodys got any issue with these bosses or levels because everyones steam rolling through them. Thats whats frustrating makes me feel like I'm doing it wrong. I ask anywhere else and I get "git gud" replies.
Everyones always going on about how the Shrine of Amana is so difficult, but, apparently everywhere else is super easy )=. Shrine wasn't even hard, those magic users were glass cannons.
Man, that's what I'm not understanding about this game. For the last one tons of people have issues with bosses, or levels, but, apparently nobodys got any issue with these bosses or levels because everyones steam rolling through them. Thats whats frustrating makes me feel like I'm doing it wrong. I ask anywhere else and I get "git gud" replies.
Everyones always going on about how the Shrine of Amana is so difficult, but, apparently everywhere else is super easy )=. Shrine wasn't even hard, those magic users were glass cannons.
The enemies in that level are bullshit. They seem to have a hell of a lot of HP and attack power compared to anything else in the game. Try and draw them out with a bow if you have one. I was a strictly melee character but put some points into attunement and used pyromancy on the big knights to kill them, and just used my Zweihander +10 on the smaller ones with the stupidly fast attacks and high health.
The boss of that area is by far one of the cheapest in the series too. It's absolutely awful.
What kind of build are you rolling?
The_Hitcher89
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What's with the Pharros Contraption in the
btw? Is it really
Iron Keep
just a small pool of water
AlphaDragoon
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Nah dude, Dragon Shrine is like the king of pain in the ass areas in that game IMO. Makes Shrine of Amana look like Disneyland.
Be extremely careful when engaging Drakekeepers as they can basically end you in one combo. Use ranged options if available, always fight them one at a time. Hit and run always, don't rely on them stopping their combos or running out of stamina. Leash them (meaning, get them to move back to their initial positions by moving far enough away from the area) when you can.
The human-sized enemies can be fought normally as they do have finite combos, but don't rely on stunlocks. Hit them when they finish a combo, back off and wait for your opportunity again. Patience is everything in this area. As I don't play with a shield I physically avoid the hits by stepping back far enough or rolling away if I mess up. If your roll isn't great, space yourself to be able to simply backstep out of range.
Flying High
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VaultBoy101
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After losing patience I eventually just got through that entire area by sprinting. It can be done.
It's straight up the most difficult area in the game. If you don't have any sort of substantial ranged damage, you are going to be in for a hell of a fight. I'd even go so far to say that the Hammer Drakekeeper's are the most difficult enemies in the game, and more difficult than 90% of the bosses.
The_Hitcher89
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VaultBoy101
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That is exactly what it's there for.
StrongArmSteady
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Shit! Lucatiel died on the smelter demon boss. Will see her again?
^Did you kill him? In any case, yes. But you won't get the trophy if you killed him without her.
Come out and FIGHT next time! We're trying to rank up here yo
NO IT ISN'T
Come out and FIGHT next time! We're trying to rank up here yo
The_Hitcher89
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InfiniDragon
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It's your job to find us Mr. Invader, not ours to run into you hiding behind six mobs with a Soulmass at the ready. XD
..DAMMIT
(I'm a 1 v 1 kind of invader to be fair. And I drop a summon sign after a while because I feel so dirty and guilty)
The Mace Drakekeepers are straight up nearly broken lol. Those bastards have infinite stamina and do not give any room for a safe counter. I think there might have been a slight error with them.
Speaking of invaders. I had one guy try to constantly lure me away into a trap, but since the Gunbound days of games lagging/freezing for more than 20 minutes, I have the patience of a saint lol. Just waited until he got bored and ran back to me and then I killed him lol.
I found it significantly easier on NG+
Sure, you'll meet a few Phantoms here and there, but that's about it.
You have to keep on. Go for that NG+, sir~!
Morrigan Stark
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They do. That's one of the reasons
I found Vendrick easier in NG+. In NG I fought him prior to killing the Ancient Dragon and only had 4 souls. In NG+ I had 5 already and his defense was even more lowered. I think it caps at 5 though.
Incendiary
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My dream for the next Souls games (or area DLC) is a snow area where your equip weight matters, and the heavier you are the more you sink into the snow drifts and the harder it is to move quickly/dodge. Then that gives From the option to add miracles/sorceries that make you weightless for a certain amount of time.
I think a really cool area would be a trek up a mountain during a light snowfall, and you can see some sort of castle/structure built into the mountain further up and you have to make your way through snow-covered mountain passes and icy caverns, and the boss is some sort of Yeti-like furred creature that harasses you as you move up the mountain, crawling around on ledges and in and out of holes in the wall until the final confrontation before the castle.
EDIT:
Don't think I don't see your username. Like I'd expect a fair fight from a guy named Yurt.
The same thing happened to me in
Harvest Valley
windmill
edit: here you go, looks kind of funky in motion ;-)
Incendiary
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I've noticed that pretty much every heavy weapon wielder acts completely differently than player characters that use similar weapons. The hammer guys in E
arthen Peak
They do
And I had x8 at that point. Though I'm sure it caps at x5?
Thanks for the info guys!
I would be down for that. Snow environments are always a huge favorite of mine. One of the reasons I fell in love with Skyrim.
Yes, I think it's a glitch. They are very unfair.
I had an experience in
Lost Bastille
McDuffs
The Maiden in Black username was too long, pls understand.
Yup, endless FUCKING 340 degree swings.
I thought I was the only one whom had issues with those guys. They never stop swinging.
Gouty
Bloodborne is shit
I honestly didn't have any problems at the Dragon Shrine. I'm not bragging, I'm fucking terrible at the game. Don't ever scrap with the dudes with the big hammers, they never let up. Just use poison arrows and let them leash. Gavlan has an unlimited supply. As for the others, just fight them one at a time, keep one close using cheap wood arrows, the other guy will leash and go back. As for the little guys, that could be an issue depending on your equipment. I was using a great sword so I could keep them stun locked. Your mileage may vary.
First time I went through Dragon Aerie/Dragon Shrine, I "beat" both these areas in one run like a boss. Probably my most skilled moment in the game. This whole area looks great too.
I think he sells that Covenant of Blood spell on NG++
Roll/stay under him!
Yup, posted a video of it last night. Should have tried actually playing through it to see if it would still be happening once I got inside the Shrine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jxqiZ1aATE
My first character was a quality build. Started with warrior, stats at SL150:
VGR 50
END 20
VIT 20
ATT 13
STR 35
DEX 40
ADP 15
INT 5
FAI 5
Dex was an early focus. Put Str at 25 early on for the weapons which required 50 Str.
End and Vit to hit 20 early. Adp to hit 15 early too. Vgr can come later.
With Str 35 you can power stance a lot of weapons.
The Att is for 2 slots so you can still do some pyromancy.
From SL150 onwards just do whatever you want. I increased End and Vit to 30. You can go full havels with weapon and a shield and still keep below 70%. I also brought Str to 50 so I could 1 hand more weapons (as well as power stance) and Adp to 20. That makes SL200
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