Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 6: Final Destination confirmed for not fun

What a day for Smash Bros and Sakurai. Totally exceed my expectations and we had one of the best Nintendo Directs in a while. I'm now 100.01% hyped for this game. I've missed seeing Iwata on today's Direct tough :(
 
The Balloon Fight stage was one of my favorites of what they showed today.

Loved the look and it just looked like it would be a lot of fun to play in!
 
Today was awesome, but god damn Pokemon Trainer getting cut and only Charizard staying hurts.

Going to bed satisfied and excited, but mourning the loss of Ivysaur and Squirtle. I could see them coming back with their own slots, but I highly doubt it.

RIP Red, Squirtle, and Ivysaur. :'(
 
I just realized that Final Destination ties to the logos of both the 3DS and WII U games being blue and red, that's awesome!

Also to the fact that for most regions, the 3ds game (red) comes out in summer, while the WiiU (blue) comes out in the winter =) the colors were hinting at the release dates all along!
 
Zero Suit Samus looks awesome, but it's weird that they added those rocket boots when they haven't been in any game before. It feels weird to have Smash creating new things for characters and not just drawing on things from their games. (I guess Pit is the exception here, but in my mind it's okay since Sakurai made Uprising.)
 
Zero Suit Samus looks awesome, but it's weird that they added those rocket boots when they haven't been in any game before. It feels weird to have Smash creating new things for characters and not just drawing on things from their games. (I guess Pit is the exception here, but in my mind it's okay since Sakurai made Uprising.)

Yes I remember Fox's laser pistol and lighting himself on fire to get back to the stage against Andross
 
Zero Suit Samus looks awesome, but it's weird that they added those rocket boots when they haven't been in any game before. It feels weird to have Smash creating new things for characters and not just drawing on things from their games. (I guess Pit is the exception here, but in my mind it's okay since Sakurai made Uprising.)
It's not like we'll ever see another Metroid game.
 
Zero Suit Samus looks awesome, but it's weird that they added those rocket boots when they haven't been in any game before. It feels weird to have Smash creating new things for characters and not just drawing on things from their games. (I guess Pit is the exception here, but in my mind it's okay since Sakurai made Uprising.)
Basically everything about ZSS outside of her basic look and neutral B move is an original Smash creation. Why not complain about the whip as well?
 
Zero Suit Samus looks awesome, but it's weird that they added those rocket boots when they haven't been in any game before. It feels weird to have Smash creating new things for characters and not just drawing on things from their games. (I guess Pit is the exception here, but in my mind it's okay since Sakurai made Uprising.)

She had heels in Other M for no real reason. This seems like a way to justify that design decision retroactively.
 
Anyone have a screenshot comparison of Battlefield on Wii U, versus 3DS?
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Makes me sad that Lucas, the character I mained in Brawl seems like one of the most likely goners.

Oh there was a reason. A terrible reason.

I didn't get far enough to see the zero suit myself in-game, honestly. I have no doubt that any reason they gave was horrendous. Even if that reason was just sex appeal, cause they looked silly.
 
I've been looking at more screenshots, and goddamn Samus has definitely gotten a bust size upgrade.

It definitely will spawn some angry blogs on tumblr or some crap.

...not gonna lie though, she looks really sexy. I remember when I was a wee lad and had no little good reason to be infatuated with suitless Samus.
 
IntelliHeath, if you could let us know when the game is preordrable from GameStop, would appreciate it. Thanks!

Alright. I might stop by their store later this week.

Isaac and Tingle weren't shown in the Assist Trophy montage. Get hype.

Along with Barbara the Bat, Ray MK, Jill Dozer, Lakitu, Kat & Ana, Excitebikes, and Advance Wars soldiers! HYPE!

But But Isaac, Barbara, Advance Wars and Ray MK 3 were secret characters so that's probably why they haven't shown those AT.
 
Sounds about right:

Villager
Mega Man
WFT
Little Mac
Pac Man
Mii
Rosalina
Greninja
Chorus Men
Shulk
Palutena
Chrom

Add in K.Rool/Ridley/Takamaru/whatever other character you think will be there and that's a solid list of newcomers.
If that rumor list turns out to be true, I'll be a little worried. I wasn't expecting anything beyond 12 newcomers since the amount of veterans keeps growing (or shrinking sad lol). But then again, Brawl had 16 newcomers + 4 cuts. I just hope there's room in there for no-brainer Dixie Kong! And at the very least, a Lucina Marth alt if Wii Fit Trainer is any indication.

And if this rumor turns out to be true, dear god, trust no one again. Chorus Men??? My heart hurts after being captivated by that "Mona is in because she has a lot of costumes" rumor.
 
So Charizard is in? Everybodies favorite dragon I guess ;-) Would Ridley be enjoyable with Charizard height? Maybe Charizard will get an alternate costume :-D

But nonetheless it was an awesome direct and I cant wait for summer :-) and winter of course
 
Yes I remember Fox's laser pistol and lighting himself on fire to get back to the stage against Andross

And remember that time Captain Falcon lit himself on fire when he punched and kicked Black Shadow. And who can forget playing Gyromite with your favorite laser shooting Robotic Operating Buddy.
 
This makes me regret selling my 3DS since I really don't want to wait. Well played Nintendo...lol

I'll have enough to do until Winter I guess.
 
Wouldn't the Pokemon Co. or Gamefreak have some say in who gets in?

Fighting with the ninja guy could increase the sales of pokemon a little.
 
If that rumor list turns out to be true, I'll be a little worried. I wasn't expecting anything beyond 12 newcomers since the amount of veterans keeps growing (or shrinking sad lol). But then again, Brawl had 16 newcomers + 4 cuts. I just hope there's room in there for no-brainer Dixie Kong! And at the very least, a Lucina Marth alt if Wii Fit Trainer is any indication.

And if this rumor turns out to be true, dear god, trust no one again. Chorus Men??? My heart hurts after being captivated by that "Mona is in because she has a lot of costumes" rumor.
I mean, considering that:
Palutena is pretty much a lock to the point Sakurai made jokes about her
Miis are very likely and have a few stages
Namco has unique items and therefore probably a character
Greninja is an X and Y Pokemon
The dude was right with the first half and it's the same dude
Chrom was pretty obvious as well

...It's pretty likely that all of those characters will be included in my opinion. And like I said, I don't see why another DK/whatever character can't be added to that. I think you're reaching with Marth.
 
Oh, I guess Ridley is pretty much confirmed now
as stage-boss hazard

Kind of disappointed that the 3DS Version is coming first but it's better than both coming at the same time. And that Smash Run looked good.
 
Yes I remember Fox's laser pistol and lighting himself on fire to get back to the stage against Andross
True! Captain Falcon is probably an even crazier example of Smash making up things for characters. I totally forgot about them after just being used to that stuff for so long.
Basically everything about ZSS outside of her basic look and neutral B move is an original Smash creation. Why not complain about the whip as well?
Eh, not that much about her Brawl version really needed to be invented though, besides the whip. Everything else just draws on the fact that she's always been fairly acrobatic.

Anyway, this doesn't bother me that much, I just thought it was kind of odd (although I guess it really isn't).
 
If Squirtle and Ivysaur are cut then I'm sorry, but this is all kinds of bullshit. What is up with Pokemon characters in Smash always getting cut? We were all holding out for Mewtwo to return, and he might not even show up let alone losing two more Pokemon veterans as well. If those three do show up then I'll be pleasantly surprised, because then the only real cut is Pokemon Trainer which while the loss of a neat idea (and fun Red cameo) is disappointing, it isn't going to upset too many people. (I'm assuming Jigglypuff is a lock considering her veteran status)

Hopefully Charizard's reveal without the other two is akin to Samus/Zelda being revealed before their counterparts. As far as Greninja, it was a totally out of left field choice that I absolutely love, and I'm glad that Mega Lucario and Mega Charizard made it into the game as well.

Pokemon aside, I think everyone else has a good shot, but Snake is running out of time. A Namco character (Pac-Man) is flat out in our face at this point with things like the S-Flag and Galaga ATs being in the game. With Smash 3DS being months away from release, I don't know if Sakurai will just drop two 3rd party characters on us like that and I'm sure Pac-Man will be a big reveal at something like E3. Would be another huge loss for the roster if Snake was gone, one of the most inventive and original characters in the series who was one of my most played Brawl characters.

Regarding the rumored list:
Pac Man -- Inevitable, whether I like this character depends entirely on Sakurai's execution of him so he isn't just in there as a mascot and brings something fun to the table.
Mii -- Hatehatehate this idea and I will continue to do so. For a super generic "character" I also expect it to play as a super generic character. I bet it will happen, but I think it will end up completely unwarranted.
Chorus Men -- I have no idea what this is, but is there really more need for a WTF character at this point?
Shulk -- Despite never having played Xenoblade, I think this would be a good choice.
Palutena -- I fully expect her and think she will make a great addition. Not much to say other than the matter that this Direct made her inclusion super obvious between the trophy trolling, and Pit's new Final Smash.
Chrom -- I personally wanted Lucina, but I think any Fire Emblem: Awakening character is great news. My hopes of him implementing Awakening's partner mechanic have been tampered given character changes in this Direct, but if Ice Climbers can make it happen...


Edit: I take back what I said about Chorus Men after some thought, just because it means the existence of a "team" style character in the game which sounds fun given the loss of several "team" style characters following this Direct.
 
True! Captain Falcon is probably an even crazier example of Smash making up things for characters. I totally forgot about them after just being used to that stuff for so long.

Eh, not that much about her Brawl version really needed to be invented though, besides the whip. Everything else just draws on the fact that she's always been fairly acrobatic.

Anyway, this doesn't bother me that much, I just thought it was kind of odd (although I guess it really isn't).
Isn't the whip a major invention? Most of her attacks use it and it's completely out of thin air.
 
So after reading through everything...seeing everything...considering everything...I have made a final conclusion.

This direct, if it were a game, would score a 9.9/10 from me. It was perfect. It was surprising. It was satisfying. It was shocking. The only reason it misses out on a perfect score is the release date for the Wii U version, as well as the online stuff being less nice than I want. I really hope they reconsider that stuff (stock matches, and especially being able to just jump into "fight rooms" in the game, as opposed to random assignment. This is still really backwards).

Great job Sakurai / Nintendo.
 
I'm awake! Allow me to share thoughts on the 3DS version:

1) I'm very excited it has a Summer date.

2) 60fps in 3D is such a brilliant technical feat. and 30fps AT's make sense, so we won't be having any cut AT's!

3) I love the images showing off AT's on 3DS all intact, such as Palkia which turns the stage upside down.

4) 3DS stages look fantastic, like the Balloon Fight stage and Reset Bomb Forest.

5) Smash Run looks like pure fun, i'm excited incredibly for this.

6) Online being available is epic.

7) Did I mention 60fps in 3D?!

I'm really happy with how well Smash has turned out. It has all the items and and AT's as the Wii U does and it sure feels like a deep game.

My only concern is the two songs a stage, but hey, as long as they're quality.

Now, is there any 3DS shots of Final Destination?
 
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