NeoGAF, welcome to .webm - the FUTURE (of burning out your CPU)

ugoo18 said:
Starts up badly for me and cuts out for some reason.
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This is what I'm seeing (On Chrome)

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FunkyLounge said:
reposting - I hope this will work, the older version was working fow fer hours and then stopped, no idea why.

So here it is again - 60fps Uncharted glory.

http://a.pomf.se/gbhhiu.webm
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That right there is why I will never understand people that say extra frames don't make a game look better. Fuck, I really hope ND starts a 60 frames trend among Sony's studios.

Won't happen, but I can dream for a little while. (Little while = until E3)
 
Dennis said:
U wot m8

VP9 will have a smaller file size than VP8 if the bitrate is the same. That is the point of VP9. The compression is more efficient.
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Maybe I'm doing something wrong then. I'm using FFMpeg, just typed libvpx and libvpx-vp9 and got a higher quality, higher file size video with all same settings. I do not know if VP8 is default or not.
 
Dennis said:
U wot m8

VP9 will have a smaller file size than VP8 if the bitrate is the same. That is the point of VP9. The compression is more efficient.
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.... Actually if bitrate is the same, both files should come out to about the same size. The point of vp9 is that you can use a lower bitrate and still get similar or better end results.
 
Dennis said:
VP9 will have a smaller file size than VP8 if the bitrate is the same. That is the point of VP9. The compression is more efficient.
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All my attempts to make webM with vp9 instead of vp8 makes the .webm have artifacts of sorts (typical jpeg square area artifacts if you know what I mean?). Actually these type of artifacts (below) but much much less obvious, aka you can see they are there but barely.

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And I have no changes between vp8 or vp9 beside just "-c:v libvpx" vs "-c:v libvpx-vp9".
 
Dennis said:
U wot m8

VP9 will have a smaller file size than VP8 if the bitrate is the same. That is the point of VP9. The compression is more efficient.
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Slipping up, heh. if the bit rate is the same, the file size is (roughly) the same :p
You mean for the same quality, the file size will be smaller.
 
Phaethon0017 said:
Maybe I'm doing something wrong then. I'm using FFMpeg, just typed libvpx and libvpx-vp9 and got a higher quality, higher file size video with all same settings. I do not know if VP8 is default or not.
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If the encoders are not using variable bitrate, same bitrate videos would have about the same file size but VP9 would produce higher quality, no? If that bitrate setting is for max bitrate, than you'd have also have to set some lowest allowed bitrate or something. I thought the point of VP9 is providing higher quality with lower bit-rates.

I haven't encoded anything for long, tho. :)

Edit: What ScepticMatt said.. Quoted the reply instead of the original post I was trying to reply to.
 
hesido said:
If the encoders are not using variable bitrate, same bitrate videos would have about the same file size but VP9 would produce higher quality, no? If that bitrate setting is for max bitrate, than you'd have also have to set some lowest allowed bitrate or something. I thought the point of VP9 is providing higher quality with lower bit-rates.

I haven't encoded anything for long, tho. :)

Edit: What ScepticMatt said.. Quoted the reply instead of the original post I was trying to reply to.
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I'm always the bridesmaid, never the bride... even when I get there first :)


As for the VP9 video in question above, works great for me. Looks like Chrome and Opera are dropping the ball as Firefox 28 works fine for it.
 
Tried again with the FF X video I posted yesterday, this time with lower bitrate. Ended up a good bit smaller, doesn't look as nice as the old one but still damn good. Oh yeah, used VP9 for both


http://a.pomf.se/npilwx.webm
720p (no audio) - 3.6Mb bitrate - 10MB

Here's the old one for comparison
leonemesis said:
http://a.pomf.se/fwgpki.webm
Final Fantasy X HD Remaster - 720p (no audio) - 5.6Mb bitrate - 16.1MB
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Only issue so far seems to be the hosting, I often notice "awaiting socket" or something like that when loading them on a new window, so pomf is probably getting a lot of load right now. Once we have more options the loading problem (when the webm becomes a small black box) some people report will probably be gone.
 
psylah said:
OR you could donate to the guy, who has a generous upload limit and pretty lax restrictions.

His paypal has been limited but he has two other ways to donate on the front page.
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I think what the guy is trying to do with pomf.se is grand and all.

But if I'm to invest my money in a future file hosting platform, I'd rather do it as a proper investor than a donator. Not that I'd have the 6-7 figures necessary to really help starting up such a thing. >_>


I'm fairly certain that a reliable, serious video hosting service is going to emerge as long as the demand is there.
 
I'm... actually a little bit confused as to what this is, exactly. And what it would do nice for me.

It sounds like it would be too difficult on my laptop and is something demanding. But maybe on my desktop would be good.

If I understand correctly, it can work as both something like a .gif image and an embedded flash video. But is better at some things than both.
But also uses more system resources than both. Is that true?
 
HolyBaikal said:
I'm... actually a little bit confused as to what this is, exactly. And what it would do nice for me.

It sounds like it would be too difficult on my laptop and is something demanding.
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Can't speak for all the tech portions but not only my basic Toshiba laptop handles this just fine buy my Galaxy Note 3 does as well. If you are using Chrome and have the NeoGaf addon you can set the setting to "hoover to play" so when you load a page your CPU doesn't melt. Works fine on my very basic work PC.
 
So I found something interesting.


[URL="http://a.pomf.se/bawmxq. webm"][img]http://i.minus.com/i2CIMty2aowxu.gif[/img][/URL]

I just posted that (without the space between the '.' and 'webm' and it showed a GIF to those who don't have the add-on and it showed the WebM to those who do.
 
Welp, I no longer get "Video format or MIME type not supported", but I do get absolutely nothing since the source for all these webm's is blocked at work. Great.
 
DaBoss said:
So I found something interesting.


[URL="http://a.pomf.se/bawmxq. webm"][img]http://i.minus.com/i2CIMty2aowxu.gif[/img][/URL]

I just posted that (without the space between the '.' and 'webm' and it showed a GIF to those who don't have the add-on and it showed the WebM to those who do.
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Wow that's brilliant, nice find! :o
 
DaBoss said:
So I found something interesting.


[URL="http://a.pomf.se/bawmxq. webm"][img]http://i.minus.com/i2CIMty2aowxu.gif[/img][/URL]

I just posted that (without the space between the '.' and 'webm' and it showed a GIF to those who don't have the add-on and it showed the WebM to those who do.
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Well damn, that's fantastic! That's the perfect way of replacing gifs until webm support becomes more widespread.
 
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