Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 6: Final Destination confirmed for not fun
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DisconnectD
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Thank you Shun; very concise and insightful info here and I agree though D1 definitely already said it would be banned in the twitch video of him and his crew watching the direct LOL. Hyperbole, I'm sure.
Yeah, I really don't get it myself. When was the last time the Mario series got a character that was treated like the big four/five (Mario, Luigi, Peach, & Toad with Bowser as the villain) anyway? Yoshi was like 1992 thinking about it.
Primary: Meta Ridley
Secondary: Ridley, Omega Ridley, NES Ridley
Tertiary: Mecha Ridley, Ridley X
Not playing Other M Ridley since that one's obviously a stage hazard.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
It was my hyperbole to point out that Hyperactivity didn't list that game yet. You know when someone said WHAT'S THAT in sarcasm but nice way.
If the Chorus Men/Marshall rumour is true, and assuming each series gets at least one stage, I hope we get both English and Japanese versions of songs in the series. like the Wario songs in Brawl. It would be a shame if we didn't get the English Dreams of Our Generation
Too true. The direct sold me on the game.
Too true. The direct sold me on the game.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I dont know how people are reminded of new pork city when its clearly more aligned with the temple.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Seriously, guys, this thread has exploded, the only reason I havent posted as much is because I was watching and finishing up accel world
What's that?!
...why is the taiko thing 2d ?
Larger and open space, more dynamic platforms and stage elements, very little connection between the different segments of the stage.
Temple was a very static location with very few gimmicks outside of the sheer size.
Primary: Black Shadow
Secondaries: Krystal, Lucina, Kumatora
Tertiaries: Mach Rider, Impa (SS), Sami, Ridley, Palutena
Dimitri LH
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Your forgiven
What year was Mario Sunshine, when Bowser Jr was created? Now he was shoehorned into everything, when they could have been using perfectly good Koopalings all along.
He's also the reason I'm glad Rosalina is the new Mario rep, because if it wasn't her, they'd definitely pass right over all 7 Koopalings, with all their personality, and go straight into a Bowser clone.
Red Arremer
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More options = good. If the options are too powerful, then they're going to be banned. Easy as that. We don't know for certain how deep customization is going to be, how powerful the bonuses will be, if you can stack bonuses, if only 1 move can be customized, etc. This is why I'm saying that as of this moment, saying "it's gonna be banned" is silly, and putting forward the notion to ban outright is as well. Does it need investigation for its viability, though? That's for sure.
Of course, I'm sure there's going to be tournaments that will ban it, but generally speaking, it will take time and investigation to see if it's ban-worthy or not.
I know all of the above is certainly going to be happening for sure, as I've been part of the process before (I'm in the BBR, and worked on ruleset recommendations particularly during the early days of Brawl).
Some TOs even started up an experimental series of side-tournaments to investigate the viability of items and custom stages in competitive play back in the day. Never picked off tho.
His icon is but he's 3D in-game. I'm assuming they took the cheap route on an arcade game because it seems all the icons are from character art from previous games.
DisconnectD
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Banning outright, without testing, would be downright stupid. I'd be very sad to hear that happening.
Testing and discovering what works and what, if anything, doesn't is far healthier. There's as much possibility it will enrich the game/competitive scene and make it more fun, more challenging, and more engaging as it will be chaotic and confusing.
I'd still love Seviper because how awesome would it be to control a Snake! I know it's basically impossible since Snivy is probably going to be a Pokeball Pokemon, but still.
Yes, that pun was intended.
A part of me even thinks that is half the reason Sakurai's even putting customization in the first place. Metaknight too powerful? Take away some recovery moves! SDing too often with Ike or Wolf? Buff their recoveries! Samus' super missiles don't kill reliably? Buff them into ice missiles so you can Smash attack, etc.
1. Greninja - Strider jokes aside, he definitely seems like my type of character. Aside from being my favorite XY Pokemon both design and competitive-wise, I definitely want to give him a shot. I originally thought if he was in, he'd be part of an XY trainer (with something like Chespin and Braixen), but hey, solo ninja's good enough for me.
2. Mega Man - Man, Megaman. There's so much to like about this character in this game. Zoning isn't exactly my specialty, but he looks like a very fun character to play as.
3. Little Mac - I always liked the "boxer" type of character in a fighting game, and Little Mac is no exception. While his seemingly poor air options make me wary, I definitely want to try him out. That OHKO move looks hella satisfying to try out.
4. Villager - Seems like an extremely weird character...and that's prolly why I'm looking forward to playing as him lol. Not too much to say, he seems fun to play as.
5. Wii Fit Trainer - Speaking of weird characters, WFT is definitely one I want to try too. Doubt I'll be maining her, but as a fun side character, I'm definitely looking forward to trying her out.
6. Rosalina - Like WFT, doubt I'll be maining her (controlling two characters at once are not my thing), but she definitely seems interesting. Can't wait to try her out.
All the newcomers are looking great so far. Really hope the trend continues with the rest of them!
I think I'm going to be the only person maining Zelda. Good.
2. Wii Fit Trainer is OP, can't wait to use her.
3. Olimar was fun to use in Brawl, so I want to see what the changes did for him.
4. Yoshi, I've never liked Yoshi, but he looks much improved now, less floaty it seems.
2. Wii Fit Trainer is OP, can't wait to use her.
3. Olimar was fun to use in Brawl, so I want to see what the changes did for him.
4. Yoshi, I've never liked Yoshi, but he looks much improved now, less floaty it seems.
Shadow Hog
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This is why I'm not rushing to sign up for any tournament. Proper release dates first, please.
Can't think of too many Nintendo games in general with anthropomorphic animals, either in "furry" form (think Star Fox, Sonic) or full-on feral form (think Okami). There's... Dillon, I guess, but I didn't play it, so I don't know if it has a wolf. Golden Sun has Sveta; her normal form doesn't seem really wolf-like to me, while her transformed form is a fair bit more so (if still not quite there). (Kind of funny she's not more wolflike normally; Camelot was all over wolfmen when they were in charge of the Shining series for Sega.)
DisconnectD
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This sums it up pretty well for me.
After much trial and error and investigation, we will know what moves could be viable and which would be broken or op. Hell, if Namco/sakurai put enough care in balancing these custom movesets, we could see a situation where we can literally Taylor the tierlist. This could mean Samus/Ganondorf/Link/Zelda could actually rise above shit tier! We could also impose nerfs if we get another MK situation. Afterall, if brawl had this, the shuttle loop could be changed, as well as machnado.
Red Arremer
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Zelda was the first character I seriously picked up in both Melee and Brawl, haha. Not sure I will do it again this time, but who knows.
Dillon, as his name suggests, is an armadillo.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I want a season 2
Red Arremer
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Hey now, 3 out of those 4 were mid tier in Melee lol.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Nope, I'm still overwhelmed with the information but the direct is so amazing. Plus I don't want smash daily images would run out of things to talk about.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I'm not rushing to signing up either because I lack the proper requirements, I have a wiiU(proudly I might add, and also I would be lying if I said I did expect the 3DS version to come out first) but not a 3DS and without a job(though that is most likely to change in the coming weeks) so I wouldnt sign up until im absolutely sure.
Dimitri LH
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Pfft, been maining her ever since Brawl.
We all do, rumor has it we might get a Season 2, after Sword Art Online 2 finishes.
Possible strong spoilers:
apparently it shows how the main character of SA:O creates Accel World.
....I need to watch Sword art Online D:
Okay.
I'm going to create a list with everyone wanting to participate in the 3DS Summer Tourney.
Anyone from here on out, quote me, names will be added to the list.
EDIT: Sure thing Muzy.
Count me in if you are still making the list!
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
for in-universe's sake I guess you could watch it, but fair warning, SAO is the author's first story, and so therefore, is crap, even cajun is like no to it, its really bad and im able to appreciate accel world more because it shows how much the author has improved.
Necromanti
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"Get a gift/prize by using a special code."
What's that?!
EDIT: It's just this. I must be missing something. They are the characters that will be taking up the slots that Mewtwo and Roy would have had until they got canned, obviously.
There's still quite a bit to talk about regarding the Direct. Right now I'm focusing on characters. Then I'm gonna look at stages.
There are lots of small changes they introduced.
Hyperactivity
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Dimitri LH
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I keep hearing things go down hill fast in SAO. I will eventually watch it.....just hope its as good as some people say.
On Topic: I seriously wonder when the next time Sakurai will give us another Smash Bros Megaton. Does not need to be a Direct though.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Something tells me on the ground if Meta Knight returns, Little Mac is gonna kick his ass.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
They were debating about how many Mario Kart games Rosalina has been in.
PadWarrior
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Benzychenz
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I mained Zelda/ToonLink/Lucario in Brawl and I'll probably do it again this time around.
Greninja I think I'll play a lot too, and maybe ZSS.
Depends who else gets in though, Wonder Red would be an instant main over everyone else, and Shulk, Palutena, Hades, Mewtwo or (trident pig) Ganon would be up there depending on how they played.
Zelda was a beast in Melee, but Brawls extra floatiness killed her. Now that she has a downb that looks like it replaced her neutral b, her neutral could be something more useful.
I'm eagerly awaiting more of your write ups. I'm also trying to find the Pit write up that was done in here to check some things out.
theprodigy
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nah, Zelda was pretty bad in Melee too
in fact in both games, people thought Zelda was better than she really was
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Spring-Loaded
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Is little mac's alt just an elaborate palette swap, or is it a different model entirely? What are the chances alts will be completely different like Wario's from Brawl?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Now I'm tempted to watch Direct to see if we overlooked anything but I doubt it.
It's a texture swap.
We've already had He-fit trainer as an alt, so it's possible that there are more of them.