Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 6: Final Destination confirmed for not fun

Please no. It's bad enough that Game Freak plays favorite with Blaziken...
I'm still salty about the lack of Mega Swampert and Sceptile.
Id take Sceptile out of any other starter. Shame GF didn't push that starter. He could work very well with Smash with Leaf Blade being his signature move along with bullet seed and leaf storm
 
All that K. Rool capture means is that somebody visited the nonexistent page in 2007 and that it wound up on the Wayback Machine. Someone probably linked to the page as a joke on some forum, and that gave the page traffic.
 
I don't care which of the seven gets in.

I just need one of them so Stage + Music from Xenoblade are a lock.

I like Dunban/Reyn/Fiora better, but I think Shulk would actually be the most interesting gameplaywise.
I've been playing Melia/Sharla/7th myself, lately, if only to wrap up that "get two female party members to have really good affinity so those two young girls in Colony 9 will stop fighting over Shulk and Reyn" (just finished it the other day, since Melia/Sharla made it to the cloud symbol; should probably break out RIki now, since he's still at that yellow ":I" with everybody).

Melia would definitely also be an interesting pick, if only because mages are rare in Smash - but it'd be a right shame to not use the game's iconic time-altering weapon. (I dunno, give it to Dunban?)

So I saw this somewhere earlier. I don't know how trustworthy the way back machine is, but check page 22.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.smashbros.com/jp/characters/*

There's HTML code that reads "http://www.smashbros.com:80/jp/characters/kingkrool.html". Then again, there's also "http://www.smashbros.com:80/jp/characters/resume.html" and "http://www.smashbros.com:80/jp/characters/static/help". So I'm not exactly sure it means anything. It's interesting to say the least.
My guess is that somebody on some forum somewhere out there linked to this fake URL as a "hey guys check out this leaked character" gag, and the Wayback Machine archived the 404.
 
My guess is that somebody on some forum somewhere out there linked to this fake URL as a "hey guys check out this leaked character" gag, and the Wayback Machine archived the 404.

Actually, I agree with you because after digging some more I've found "http://www.smashbros.com:80/jp/characters/crash.html" and that alone leads to believe this is just a huge load of nothing.
 
I know I'll be lambasted for this but I'm just glad we're getting another Smash Bros. game on a console with a good D-Pad as standard for a change.




Wouldn't it suck for you both if the Wii U version got delayed. ;)
But agreed.

... I'm going to have SO MUCH FUN figuring out what you 3 are going to be branded with.



I can't help but feel this roster is going to be rather blank by the end of it all.

It's really up to Sakurai at this point, but I could see Shulk taking the 2nd Fire Emblem spot, to include and validate the good work done by Monolith Soft as part of the Nintendo stable and keep FE from being over-represented just because of prior history, but I dunno, it's such a toss-up.

And agree with others, the lack of Takamaru is rather disheartening.


Oh yeah??? It is going to feel pretty good when I win my first ever Avatar bet. Ridley is so going to be playable and Pacman will probably be as well. That is 50/50 IMO, since that 2nd sal leak is so vague. Not to say the 1st leak wasn't credible because of WFT/Villager but he could be mistaken on some of the pics. I don't think Mii will be playable either after the direct, personally.
 
I don't care which of the seven gets in.

I just need one of them so Stage + Music from Xenoblade are a lock.

I like Dunban/Reyn/Fiora better, but I think Shulk would actually be the most interesting gameplaywise.

Xenoblade stage+music is way better than playable Shulk IMO, I can't image any aerial attack for him.
 
Also just went to youtube and wrote "Shulk" on the search bar. "Shulk Smash Bros" is the top suggestion, the hype is real.

Nothing interesting came up though.
 
Added Zero suit and Yoshi's new stuff

http://bit.do/Sm4sh-Move-Changes


I just want to say as an aside, that it is majorly badass that Sakurai saw fit to give Link his Jump slash and his back flip. It also renews my faith in Ganondorf getting canon moves added to his moveset.

Oh, DK's roll & Luigi's flutter jump. I CAN'T wait to see what other little details and goodies get added to characters to increase the accuracy of how they are portrayed!
 
Also just went to youtube and wrote "Shulk" on the search bar. "Shulk Smash Bros" is the top suggestion, the hype is real.

Nothing interesting came up though.

Thats probably do to the Leak.

Anyhowser, I wonder how many secret unlockables we will get.

EDIT You said youtube...not google. I think I need more sleep.
 
I was wondering more about those Smash run items and powerups. think you can take the collected items to the actual free for all battle?

That'd be neat.
 
So why are people assuming Rob is gonna be cut again? I don't remember this much talk for Mr G&W being cut during Brawl's development
They are both cut. We are getting Mr. Satellaview to replace them.
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Oh yeah, any idea on what Greninja's attacks are?

Here's what I think for its B moves, as shown in the trailer:
B - Water Shuriken
Up B - Teleport
Side B - Aqua Jet
Down B - Substitute

We know his up smash is the sword slice upward.
 
Oh yeah, any idea on what Greninja's attacks are?

Here's what I think for its B moves, as shown in the trailer:
B - Water Shuriken
Up B - Teleport
Side B - Aqua Jet
Down B - Substitute

We know his up smash is the sword slice upward.

Switch side b and up b and you've got it right, both times we see him use teleport he goes sideways with it
 
Man, that gamexplain video on Smash Run made me so hype for the mode, since I've never played Kirby Air ride, I wasn't too familiar with the city trial mode. The random events during the 5 minutes and the special brawl conditions for the matches sounds so fucking fun. I didn't realize the actual versus battles were only 60 seconds. That will make a brisk, highly playable mode.

My head also spins at the amount of Nintendo and 3rd party baddies that will cameo in that mode! Please have buzz bombers and motobugs and more than just Mets!
 

Man this movie scared the piss out of younger me just for its concept. Looking at this gif though, I can't believe how hilariously bad the acting is. :lol

How many of you wanting Takamaru:
1) Knew who he was pre-Nintendo land.
2) Played his original game?

I knew about Takamaru during the pre Brawl days when people were listing every character that could fit the "samurai" or draw/sheathe swordsman mold. After Lyn, his name was brought up pretty profusely, most often noting how he seems to be the East's equivalent to Pit/Little Mac/Mike Jones.

The game's been unavailable to play in the West since its release in 1986 so I can't say I've gotten a hold of it.
 
Greninja is getting main'd, if he feesls right.

Characters I'm trying week 1, so far;

Marth
Sheik
Zelda
Mega Man
Greninja

Still have major hope for Mewtwo, and Ridley.
So far my list of potential mains is looking like this:
Kirby
Greninja
Samus
Zero Suit Samus
Sheik
Charizard
R.O.B.
Pit
Mewtwo (Believe)
Squirtle (BELIEVE)
Mega Man
Ridley (lol)

Knowing this series, three quarters of those will be terrible characters in Smash 4.
They are both cut. We are getting Mr. Satellaview to replace them.
Disk-kun wrecks Mr. Satellaview any day of the week.

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Man, that gamexplain video on Smash Run made me so hype for the mode, since I've never played Kirby Air ride, I wasn't too familiar with the city trial mode. The random events during the 5 minutes and the special brawl conditions for the matches sounds so fucking fun. I didn't realize the actual versus battles were only 60 seconds. That will make a brisk, highly playable mode.

My head also spins at the amount of Nintendo and 3rd party baddies that will cameo in that mode! Please have buzz bombers and motobugs and more than just Mets!

We still don't know if Smash Run have online or not right? Sakurai plz.
 
Found on Tumblr.

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Replace Waddle Dee with Lucina, Bowser Jr. with SS Impa, and Isaac with Kumatora and this is my dream roster, ladies and gents.
There's no reason to cut R.O.B. though. He's a unique character.

I don't really care for the bottom row of newcomers, but the overall roster is very solid. I like.
 
Oh yeah, any idea on what Greninja's attacks are?We know his up smash is the sword slice upward.
B - Water Shuriken (Can be charged up to 5 hits)
Up B - Water Pulse (People are saying Aqua Jet, but it really doesn't look like the move hits physically like Aqua Jet does in Pokémon. It's also not that fast.)
Side B - Acrobatics/Feint Attack/Shadow Sneak (One of these.)
Down B - Substitute
Down Air - Bounce.
Up Tilt - Lick
Grab - Traps with Whirlpool
 
My guess:

Neutral A is the multi-hit attack where it has Greninja slapping repeatedly.

Strong Up-A is the upward tongue slap.
Strong Forward-A is the foward kick
Strong Down-A is the leg sweep.

Up Smash is the upward twin sword slice.
Forward Smash is the grounded forward sword slice.

Forward-Aerial is the forward water slash in the air.
Down-Aerial is the diving stomp in the air.
Back-Aerial is the backwards triple-kick in the air.

Grab is trapping opponent in the Whirlpool
Pummel is hurting the opponent with the Whirlpool
Up-Throw is launching opponent straight up from the Whirlpool.

B is Water Shuriken (Chargeable).
Forward-B is Smokescreen (like Meta Knight's Dimensional Cape).
Down-B is Substitute.
Up-B is Aqua Jet (Two charges like Pikachu's Quick Attack).
 
Pretty sure he said it was online, at least he said something like "if you play this mode locally everyone needs their own system and game" which wouldn't make sense unless the mode is online as well

I think it's just indicating that you can't play Smash Run with 1 card & 4 3DS like Mario Kart 7, I don't remember seeing the "local" thing.
 
Takamaru, would be the most logical answer for a retro character, right? I really want him in. ;_;

No one ever knows what Sakurai's thinking fully, but assuming the character's recent appearances in things like Captain Rainbow (of which Sak's a fan), Samurai Warriors 3, and his psuedo homage thing in the international Nintendo Land as well as some franchise notoriety thanks to Kamiya's namedrop a few months ago and the Australian classification board's rating of the game (the first rating for it in the west), one can only hope it's all leading to something like this.

I really really really want him in in case you didn't notice. I need a new agile swords person. The fact that he has all that gear in tandem with the katana is just icing on the cake.
 
I think it's just indicating that you can't play Smash Run with 1 card & 4 3DS like Mario Kart 7, I don't remember seeing the "local" thing.

I think it is a pretty safe assumption that Smash Run is an online and local mode. After Kid Icarus Uprising, no online would be quite a step down. The Sakurai talks about how each session is 5 minutes and as soon as the battle is over, you instantly go into another random session makes it seem like a predominantly online mode.

Especially considering the global smash power thing. Your performance in the Smash run's will be measured against others but not the battles themselves.
 
I'm still a bit upset about not having a level or rank for online profiles. Shame me for wanting a bit of a CoD-like experience for levels, but it marks progression really well. Regardless, if the online infrastructure is smooth, I will play this online more than offline CPU battles. I'm just hoping the 3DS will be comfortable for SSB.
 
True, but Takamaru used shrunken tho.

Shuriken are a very universal weapon.

Oh yeah??? It is going to feel pretty good when I win my first ever Avatar bet.

Keep feeling that. When it comes time to eat that crow, I'll be sure to pass the salt.
Hell, I'm not even sure about all this Palutena teasing actually leading to anything good, but even that has a sliver of hope associated to it.
 
I think it is a pretty safe assumption that Smash Run is an online and local mode. After Kid Icarus Uprising, no online would be quite a step down. The Sakurai talks about how each session is 5 minutes and as soon as the battle is over, you instantly go into another random session makes it seem like a predominantly online mode.

Especially considering the global smash power thing. Your performance in the Smash run's will be measured against others but not the battles themselves.

I wish we get some confirmation soon, we didn't see any interview after the Direct. Not even from famitsu or 4gamer.
 
I made this moveset for him a long while back. He's one of my top choices for a newcomer so I wanted to give him a good moveset. People seemed to like it when I showed it to them! What do you guys think?

Edit: in case its hard to read it's a "Pump" based moveset where his strengths come from pumping balloons up and using them to his advantage.

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Tingle is a more interesting character who could've used Balloon Fighter's moves and much more.
 
How many of you wanting Takamaru:
1) Knew who he was pre-Nintendo land.
2) Played his original game?

I knew him because of brawl. I haven't played the game yet but I'll do it when it is in the VC.

Anyway, I'm pretty confident about his innclusion. He'll probably be a secret though.
 
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I think the most deserving rhythm heaven rep is this guy
I used to think the same, too.

However, the idea of Marshall just sounds too good. Marshall has pretty much become the face of Rhythm Heaven as of Rhythm Heaven Fever, and he would serve very well as a blank slate through which you could represent many other elements and characters from Rhythm Heaven. Much like Mr. Game & Watch or Villager, all of his moves could be made up of different things from the Rhythm Heaven games. He'd make a very interesting character, that's for sure! Karate Joe would be much more straightforward and not really as interesting, nor would he capture the essence of Rhythm Heaven as well, I don't think.

I changed my roster around a bit.

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There are 7 post-Brawl newcomers, 7 “old” newcomers, and 2 guest newcomers. I tried grouping related games/series together.

The Gematsu leak has me curious about Shulk. How different from Ike would he be? Surprisingly, YouTube doesn’t seem to have any compilation videos of his various Arts.
I would rename "Chorus Men" to "Chorus Kids," which is their real name. The leaker got the name wrong (and far too many people are adopting it)—and who knows, it may not even be the Chorus Kids after all. It could be Marshall from Rhythm Heaven Fever, as I mentioned above. I mean, if this leaker is really legit, he's been unclear with names before; he called Villager "Animal Crossing Guy" and Greninja wasn't even described beyond "Pokémon from Pokémon X and Y."
 
During the Direct's final montage, where it highlights the entire roster revealed so far, every character gets 2 little mini-scenes...except for Pit, who gets 4.
Sakurai putting the spotlight in his latest baby.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ8UQ-SWcHo&list=UUfAPTv1LgeEWevG8X_6PUOQ#t=395

The guys from Game Explain noted that Koopa was absent from the Smash Run mode. Could a Koopa be a newcomer (or an assist trophy)? I personally think that a Paratroopa could be really cool to play as.
More likely the enemies are designed to be easy to defeat whereas koopas technically only withdraw into their shells, thus not killed. That's how they also worked in Melee's adventure mode so there's even a precedent within the Smash series.
 
I would rename "Chorus Men" to "Chorus Kids," which is their real name. The leaker got the name wrong (and far too many people are adopting it)—and who knows, it may not even be the Chorus Kids after all. It could be Marshall from Rhythm Heaven Fever, as I mentioned above. I mean, if this leaker is really legit, he's been unclear with names before; he called Villager "Animal Crossing Guy" and Greninja wasn't even described beyond "Pokémon from Pokémon X and Y."
Possibly and it makes more sense. Having 'Men' or 'Kids' implies they're multiple of them. I doubt we will have 3 Chorus kids on the stage at the same time. So Marshall makes more sense. But you have to give him the bowtie!
 
I would gladly design and program unique Break The Targets stages for each character. Hell, I'll give each character unique Board The Platforms stages too.

Oh man. After I said that I went to the confirmed character list and just envisioned how awesome they would be. Then my girlfriend asked me what I was doing so I had to show her Melee's BtT mode. I'd be so stoked to get to do that. It would be my dream. Ugh I'm more excited about map design than I am about character confirmation :p
 
When we first boot up the new Smash, what will you guys do first?

I'll either:

1) Play with the UI, these always have some fun tied to it.

2) Hop into training, choose Little Mac, Battlefield and Bowser as a large target and practice.
 
When we first boot up the new Smash, what will you guys do first?

I'll either:

1) Play with the UI, these always have some fun tied to it.

2) Hop into training, choose Little Mac, Battlefield and Bowser as a large target and practice.

Like any game with mario, try him out in training first then other modes.
 
Hm, no idea. Brawl I jumped straight into into story mode, but SSB4 doesn't have that so it hasn't really dawned on me what my 1st step is.
 
During the Direct's final montage, where it highlights the entire roster revealed so far, every character gets 2 little mini-scenes...except for Pit, who gets 4.
Sakurai putting the spotlight in his latest baby.
That's not too strange. Sakurai likes to give the advantage to stuff he's worked on (all three Kirby characters were strong in Brawl, with MK obviously being the strongest).

I wonder if he can twist Namco's arm to make a character from KIU exceptional.
 
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