Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 6: Final Destination confirmed for not fun

don't really get why peope want mewtow this bad..nostalgia?
it waone of my main too in melee,but lucario is basically him,just faster and less of a heavy-hitter

Uhh... Lucario is nothing like Mewtwo, they only share one move and that's it. And Lucario still hits kinda hard (see Fsmash & Dsmash) and I wouldn't say he's that much faster than Mewtwo.

People want Mewtwo back because if he came back he would be a much better designed character than in Melee. They could fix all the problems Mewtwo had in Melee if he was brought back. He also had a really unique move set and was badass.

He's also a relevant Pokemon again due to his two Mega Evolutions and has regained popularity due to X & Y. It wouldn't make any sense to exclude him again when he was the first end-game legendary of the series.
 
Because assuming Jigglypuff is returning, that puts us at 5 Pokemon already. Most people, including myself, think 6 is overkill. Also, consider the fact that it seems like Lucario is the "new Mewtwo" and it's hard to imagine Mewtwo getting in.

" most people " (neogaf,) don't know what they are talking about, and think their insular community is more valuable than it is.

Pokemon is one of nintendo's biggest franchises, Period. It can get 6, and no one will care and neo gaf will bitch.

No one cares. No one. Espically in a world where mario will have

Mario
Luigi
WArio
Bowser
Rosalina
Peach
Donkey
Diddy Kong
And Yoshi.

No one cares

No one cares about an imagined over kill quota. They just want what they want.
 
" most people " (neogaf,) don't know what they are talking about, and think their insular community is more valuable than it is.

Pokemon is one of nintendo's biggest franchises, Period. It can get 6, and no one will care and neo gaf will bitch.

No one cares. No one. Espically in a world where mario will have

Mario
Luigi
WArio
Bowser
Rosalina
Peach
Donkey
Diddy Kong
And Yoshi.

No one cares

It's funny that people think there's a limit on how many characters a franchise can have. Even people outside of GAF (like GameFAQs or Smashboards) think 6 Pokemon is too much (even though 6 were technically in Brawl, too).

People just don't want 6 of a franchise they're not as in love with despite how much move set potential and uniqueness they add to the cast of characters.
 
Alright, I revised my small mistake.

I would imagine that Super Smash Bros 4's development and budget management would be much better than Brawl.

I would like to believe that Namco-Bandai secretly working on Smash prototype for awhile before they officially announced the alliance between Bandai-Namco and Nintendo for Smash Development to the public. I would imagine that they started working on prototype during April 2012, so they started from the port of SSBB.

I would like to point out that Brawl only got 26 months in development, and 3DS & Wii U are in the development for 24 months. I can imagine that the development probably ended up being 27 or 28 months just for 3DS, then other few months for Wii U as we see that we are getting Winter Release for Wii U.

With Brawl port, it's more likely to help the development teams with the chores since they can bring the skeletons of move sets, items codes, assist trophies and pokeball pokemon codes, etc over to the computers. They could reused those codes and starting to adjust the codes from there.

Yeah, people said Smash 4 are in completely different situation, which I would agreed with. However I'm not saying that it's easy job but I would imagine that the job between 3DS and Wii U are simplified by port the HD models from Wii U to 3DS development teams so they can downgraded the characters by themselves and adjust the models to match with 3DS artistic models. Same thing would goes with items, assist trophies, pokeball pokemon, etc.

I'm pretty sure that they already split the team to work on both system, but I can imagine that 3DS team would be little bigger to make sure that they would work on single player and multiplayer contents, and trying to complete the game for a summer launch window. Once they are done with 3DS then I can see both of teams could reunited and start to working on Wii U contents full time. That's probably why we haven't really seen much of single players modes and the contents for Wii U.

There are so many things that I want to added but I think I would kept rambling for long time but yeah. It's all speculation.
 
" most people " (neogaf,) don't know what they are talking about, and think their insular community is more valuable than it is.

Pokemon is one of nintendo's biggest franchises, Period. It can get 6, and no one will care and neo gaf will bitch.

No one cares. No one. Espically in a world where mario will have

Mario
Luigi
WArio
Bowser
Rosalina
Peach
Donkey
Diddy Kong
And Yoshi.

No one cares

No one cares about an imagined over kill quota. They just want what they want.

Despite the common origins, Smash considers the Mario, Wario, Yoshi and DK series as different. So, actually there are 5 Mario reps.
 
" most people " (neogaf,) don't know what they are talking about, and think their insular community is more valuable than it is.

Pokemon is one of nintendo's biggest franchises, Period. It can get 6, and no one will care and neo gaf will bitch.

No one cares. No one. Espically in a world where mario will have

Mario
Luigi
WArio
Bowser
Rosalina
Peach
Donkey
Diddy Kong
And Yoshi.

No one cares

No one cares about an imagined over kill quota. They just want what they want.

4chan, Reddit, my friends/brothers all generally agree that 6 Pokemon slots is more than they expect (assuming the roster isn't larger than we're all expecting). No need to get in a hussy and be anti-GAF out of nowhere.

EDIT: And nowhere was I talking about what I wanted. Just what I expect.
 
People just don't want 6 of a franchise they're not as in love with despite how much move set potential and uniqueness they add to the cast of characters.

IT'S CALLED SUPER SMASH BROS. NOT SUPER MARIO BROS.

It's bizarre to me too. Having one less character with a mushroom next to their name wasn't going to make Isaac/Saki/Lucina playable, but I guess logic falters in the face of unrelenting fanboyism.
 
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I'm sure Mewtwo is going to be playable.

I feel like, in the coming months and years, we're going to get a lot of mileage out of Greninja wiping someone's tears with what appears to be a scarf, but secretly licking them.
 
trawling for reaction videos is depressing. not enough people getting small viewer parties together and recording them. so many people with headphones in their basement. at least peeps got skype and stuff these days.

The glory that could've been if the smash trailer was in an expo hall like melee :<
 
3 of which were bundled together as a single character.

Sakurai has been quoted saying that Brawl had 39 characters, so he counted the Pokemon individually, in spite of the trainer tying them together.

http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/4964/sakurai-cut-characters-from-smash-bros/
"What happened in the next year and a half was that we distilled the game down, worked out which ideas we had time to include and which we didn't. Sadly, we had to trim out many great concepts just to keep within the time contraints. I had a lot more characters, for example.. but sadly I can't discuss which ones didn't make it."

However, Sakurai said he wouldn't just create another game to use up these characters. "There are 39 characters in the game this time around and just adding a few more wouldn't be enough to justify a new game in my opinion; I'd have to draw a line in the sand and have a new approach to make it worthwhile. As long as the fans enjoy it, though, that's what matters and in the distant future, I guess that might be something I have to consider."

I also remember a similar comment about Melee (counting Zelda and Sheik as different characters), although I have no links for that one on hand.

Sheik is a character that has no relevance nowadays outside of Smash Bros and also wasn't a popular player character in Brawl, unlike in Melee, and yet she stayed. I don't think Jigglypuff's situation is very different.
 
"If you press and hold the button, Greninja will move a greater distance. Another unique feature is you can move Greninja around freely while charging up."

I don't get it. Move around freely while charging?

Can someone translate this?

You hold B while moving around and attacking with A. TvC and MvC has that with Zero, Megaman, Volnutt, and Joe the Condor.
 
I always kind of liked that Pokemon Trainer's team had HM moves spread around them, if only as flavor.

Say no to HM Slavery.

For some reason that just makes me want Bibarel in the game with his entire moveset based around HM stuff.

I understand some of the pokemon "hate" if you want to call it that, because Nintendo has a wide array of franchises that have no playable rep or have had comparatively few, but I don't think that 5 or 6 is overkill for one of Nintendo's biggest and wide-ranging series. I expect Jigglypuff to still be in, and Mewtwo makes a lot more sense now than he would've for Brawl, considering his return to the games with his alternate form. My only real concern to that is the fact that Lucario and Greninja both have similar charging projectiles, so his special moves could use some retooling.

I hope I can still troll people by endlessly flipping them around with Confusion.
 
You hold B while moving around and attacking with A. TvC and MvC has that with Zero, Megaman, Volnutt, and Joe the Condor.
So the tradeoff to charging Shadow Sneak while moving around is you can't use your Water Shurikens during the charge-up period for Shadow Sneak, correct?
 
Yeah so i gave up on watching react videos and now i'm just watching two best friends because even just them unwrapping their mail is better than almost all of the react videos out there :<
 
It's still pretty unbelievable that people think Jigglypuff will get cut. More than anything, isn't it's model incredibly simple? I can't imagine Jigglypuff being hard to implement.
 
direct reacts. then just generalised reacts for smash 4 stuff. but they're all crap except for like 3 or 4 of them so don't bother.

even Max's which I thought would be the best feel... manufactured

People acting up for the camera.

WHO'S THAT POKÉMON!?

I kept saying that while watching the direct as well
 
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