Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 6: Final Destination confirmed for not fun

So what's the consensus on Smash dropping Falco, Wolf, Ganondorf, Jigglypuff, and Ice Climbers?

Personally, I think Dorf is the only one who is going to make it.

jiggly, falco, ganondorf, and ice climbers will be in im sure. if anyone would be dropped out of those it would be wolf.
 
Pikachu X Samus
Thanks, internet.

I noticed Sakurai gave a bit too much power to the Kirby characters in the story. Pay attention to how much more they do than any other character.

So much love that he had to cut out an extra dedede and metaknight vid.
 
I honestly quite liked the Subspace story. I know I'm a weird guy. Maybe it's all the melodramatic anime I watch.

Don't care that it's gone though. It was a waste of development time.
 
I'm obsessed with this gif. It made me imaging that he could use the doll to get away from the trolls.

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So what's the consensus on Smash dropping Falco, Wolf, Ganondorf, Jigglypuff, and Ice Climbers?

Personally, I think Dorf is the only one who is going to make it.

Personally, I think all of them are going to make in.

SSE would have been better with the original bus story!

Indeed.
 
So much love that he had to cut out an extra dedede and metaknight vid.

Game couldn't take anymore. But yai.

Dedede is the one who places badges on several characters to revive them as he apparently knows about the 'evil plans' and wishes to fight against it by saving people with his badges.

Meta Knight not only is presented as the badass of all badasses in any scene he's in, but also is the one who controls the Halberd, which not only is the only Nintendo-theme location to get stages in SSE, but also plays a big role in the story.

Kirby does the most in the group he's involved with, which includes Mario, Link, and Pit, and does almost more than them combined, including his fancy-stuff with the Dragoon, him having flashbacks to explain a few things, and the camera focusing more on him solo than the other characters in the group.

I'm just saying they got a LOT of love in SSE, and basically did all the heroic stuff mostly by themselves. Most of the other characters are basically just there to be there, with a few occasionally doing something. Except the Kirby characters.
 
Tabuu also confirmed because there are SSE enemies.

Shhh, Smash Bros enemies will be in a Smash Bros game. But literally every other enemy outside of Smash Bros enemies, which are in a Smash Bros game, are from series that we already know has a character. Even Mega Man enemies. So the only series that isn't Smash Bros that has enemies with a character or series we haven't had confirmed yet is Ice Climbers.
 
Greninja can't learn Aqua Jet. Hacked pokemon! Ban it!

Up-B could be Waterfall.

No, that doesn't sound right. Squirtle's up-B in Brawl was Waterfall and it neither looked nor behaved like that. Maybe his up-B is Surf?

But seriously, the "frog ninja" doesn't learn the Water-type priority move? Lame...
 
No, that doesn't sound right. Squirtle's up-B in Brawl was Waterfall and it neither looked nor behaved like that. Maybe his up-B is Surf?

But seriously, the "frog ninja" doesn't learn the Water-type priority move? Lame...

He has water shuriken for priorty.
 
Pikachu X Samus
Thanks, internet.

I noticed Sakurai gave a bit too much power to the Kirby characters in the story. Pay attention to how much more they do than any other character.

I believe I've seen some fan art of that.
I've also seen a particularly infamous fan art of Pokemon Trainer giving Lucario a bath.

To be fair, Sakurai did cut out a huge part where Dedede, Meta Knight, and the SS Army fight over the Halberd. How did Dedede manage to make those badges anyways.
 
So what's the consensus on Smash dropping Falco, Wolf, Ganondorf, Jigglypuff, and Ice Climbers?

Personally, I think Dorf is the only one who is going to make it.

I hope Wolf is cut or have his moveset entirely changed. I got burned out of Star Fox characters, they are not different enought to me to be worthy.
 
I'm just saying they got a LOT of love in SSE, and basically did all the heroic stuff mostly by themselves. Most of the other characters are basically just there to be there, with a few occasionally doing something. Except the Kirby characters.

Subspace was basically a poor man's Kirby Superstar anyway!

Tabuu also confirmed because there are SSE enemies.

You're joking now, but he's going to end up being the final playable character.

with master hand as a final smash
 
The bus story?

From Ask Iwata: Super Smash Bros Brawl

Right. It wasn’t bad at all and had its own appeal, but it was a bit different than what I had envisioned it would be. It went something like this…"Some of the characters are on a bus on the way to the stadium. Samus is there. Donkey Kong is there and Snake is watching the bus from afar." It was like that. (laughs) I had envisioned a more serious tone for the story. Something with some misfortunelike a single character escaping total annihilation of his squadron and then fighting back while rounding up his allies. Ultimately, we worked together and successfully organized our ideas into the storyline for The Subspace Emissary.
 
From Ask Iwata: Super Smash Bros BrawlRight. It wasn’t bad at all and had its own appeal, but it was a bit different than what I had envisioned it would be. It went something like this…"Some of the characters are on a bus on the way to the stadium. Samus is there. Donkey Kong is there and Snake is watching the bus from afar." It was like that. (laughs) I had envisioned a more serious tone for the story. Something with some misfortunelike a single character escaping total annihilation of his squadron and then fighting back while rounding up his allies. Ultimately, we worked together and successfully organized our ideas into the storyline for The Subspace Emissary.

Snake confirmed for stalker status in that story. Love the idea here sounds like it would have been a bit more fun.
 
EVERYONE was nerfed from Melee. Even low tiers like Yoshi.
Kirby got seriously buffed. Game and Watch was buffed.

Other than that... Yeah. It's kinda sad how the Melee low tiers got smashed down harder.

So what's the consensus on Smash dropping Falco, Wolf, Ganondorf, Jigglypuff, and Ice Climbers?

Personally, I think Dorf is the only one who is going to make it.
Ganondorf will make it because he's one of Zelda's big three. Jigglypuff has seniority as one of the original 12 and has a unique playstyle that complements the rest of the cast. Ice Climbers are practically confirmed with the polar bear enemy, and they're the best execution of a weird character concept in the series.

Wolf doesn't have any of these things, but I don't see why he would be dropped when he has his own moveset set and was generally well-received.

Falco is a clone who's a sidekick in a dead series. He's the least likely to come back, and if he does it will be because of his popularity as a competitive character.
 
Pikachu X Samus
Thanks, internet.

I noticed Sakurai gave a bit too much power to the Kirby characters in the story. Pay attention to how much more they do than any other character.

too bad only Meta Knight got the love during the balancing phase

inb4 "what balancing"
 
Guys, do you think ROB is going to make it in this time?

I hope it does, it was a very unique character and I used it a lot in Brawl.
 
No one is getting cut unless that character is replaced by someone highly similar. Like Ike for Chrom, or splitting up Pokemon Trainer. Folks need to get it through their heads.
 
Guys, do you think ROB is going to make it in this time?

I hope it does, it was a very unique character and I used it a lot in Brawl.

Brawl can't not make it. He is too valuable in regards to Nintendo history and is super duper unique. Just like G&W before him, he isn't at popular so people just assume since their circle of friends didn't play him much he won't come back. He'll be back with a recovery nerf.
 
No one is getting cut unless that character is replaced by someone highly similar. Like Ike for Chrom, or splitting up Pokemon Trainer. Folks need to get it through their heads.

Yep I really don't see cuts happening this time around from the Brawl roster for the most part.
 
I'll tell you all what. I'm really, really starting to like Greninja (even if Mewtwo doesn't show up). Normally I'm not a fan of the Pokémon characters, but dang if he doesn't remind me of some sort of Strider Hiryu / Ibuki mix.Just my type of character.

As someone who loved Strider in MVC3, as soon as I saw how he moved and that his Final Smash was essentially Ragnarok, I KNEW he was going to see a lot of use. Smash 4 is seriously looking to be the game where I play a large majority of the cast and we haven't even seen everyone yet.

Also, I can shout out my favorite Marvel 3 team with this game.

Zero Suit Samus (Viper)/Red Marth (Dante)/Greninja (Strider)

Now if only ZSS had Seismos.

SSE would have been better with the original bus story!

Seriously. You have the combined potential writing power of Sakurai & Intelligent Systems and we get a story like Subspace instead of something wholly irreverent and self aware like Super Paper Mario/Kid Icarus Uprising?

Edit: Sometimes I think sections of SmashGAF just want arbitrary cuts because they want to feel validated in their hate/negativity.
 
Sakurai also made sure that Snake was balanced, and by balanced I mean hilarious.

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My friends hate Snake so much because it's the only character i'll play besides Ike.
Even I knew he was broken but I didn't care, it was Snake in smash I was going to play him even if he was straight garbage. I just lucked out.
 
Do people really expect 50+ characters for this game?

I always assumed Snake, Meta Knight, and Wolf would be cut, perhaps along with a few others.

I remember reading last year that Sakurai wanted to keep the roster to around ~35 to ensure that each character was properly balanced.
 
Do people really expect 50+ characters for this game?

I always assumed Snake, Meta Knight, and Wolf would be cut, perhaps along with a few others.

I remember reading last year that Sakurai wanted to keep the roster to around ~35 to ensure that each character was properly balanced.

lol what
I wanna see the receipts, you read it wrong
 
So I guess I'm one of the only ones who actually liked the SSE?

It's not that I cared much for the mechanics of the mode itself, but I liked having a unified campaign that I could unlock all the characters with without any ridiculous requirements like having to leave my system on for 24 hours or clear some other mode with 10 characters.

I also thought the CGI cutscenes with the different characters working together were very cool and the SSE pics I saw before Brawl released hyped me up more than anything else.


Also this pic looks like it was from a cutscene. Has there been any word or speculation on what kind of singleplayer this game will have, outside of Classic or All-Star mode?
 
Do people really expect 50+ characters for this game?

I always assumed Snake, Meta Knight, and Wolf would be cut, perhaps along with a few others.

I remember reading last year that Sakurai wanted to keep the roster to around ~35 to ensure that each character was properly balanced.
We are already at 29, and there are a dozen classics that have not shown up plus another 8 or so from the leak. There is no way this roster ends at 35.
 
Do people really expect 50+ characters for this game?

I always assumed Snake, Meta Knight, and Wolf would be cut, perhaps along with a few others.

I remember reading last year that Sakurai wanted to keep the roster to around ~35 to ensure that each character was properly balanced.

Samurai never said that.

Also, Meta Knight (a Kirby character, that Sakurai himself created) getting cut? Not in this universe.
 
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