I will not buy this game if I have to connect to a system to unlock characters already on the card.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 7: How Can My Smash Brother Be This Cut
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I will not buy this game if I have to connect to a system to unlock characters already on the card.
friskykillface
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My Pyrosphere stage hazard prediction: 30 seconds or so into the fight, Ridley comes crashing in through a wall (explaining one of the holes). He hovers around, spits fireballs, and knocks into the columns causing them to crumble. After being attacked enough by the players, hell crash into another wall (explaining the second hole) and disappear just like the boss fight in Other M.
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
I don't believe you.
Nintendo's track record says that's a really unlikely situation.
theprodigy
Member
what is up with people proposing some nefariously awful unlocking schemes lately
C.Olimar788
Member
I would imagine that if they went the "link together both versions to unlock etxras" route they wouldn't reveal it until the Wii U version was close to releasing, and definitely not before the 3DS version comes out, so...
No loss there considering that Brinstar Depths is like the second worst stage in all of Melee.but then no brinstar depths or Ridley replaces him
Big Blue is the first for those curious. That stage is SO BAD.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
I'm with you. I don't want it to happen, but it just seems like the kind of stupid thing Ninty would do at this point, especially with them releasing the 3DS version first.
You damn better start believing.
Stage hazard:
Playable:
Both can be in Pyrosphere at the same time. The playable Ridley could kill the abominable Other M Ridley. They were technically different entities, so why not.
This is a confusing solution when considering design consistency. Sakurai had Samus redesigned to look more like her Other M counterpart - why have the playable Ridley look like an early era counterpart in comparison?
Beelzebufo
Banned
Maybe he interacts with the lava in some way on his way out, creating a hazard that attacks all of the players except for the one that finished him off?
I cant possible imaging why they'd put two Ridleys in the game, one as boss and one as playable character. That's like having Ganondorf as a playable character then ganon/or WW ganondorf as boss character. Yea there different beings but still not enough reason to justify including him. Besides not everyone knows Ridleys back story like its something they studied school. probably 50% of people who will see both Ridleys in the game will ask why are there two dragon things, and why is one so much bigger then the other? it isn't consistent. but whatever this topic is boring me i'll end it with that.
All hail issac as playable character!
Giga Bowser was a boss in Melee, but became playable as a final smash in Brawl iirc. What you say can be an indication, but not conclusive evidence.
"Because Nintendo" is the reason. It allows people to say the most ridiculously exaggerated stuff and say that is what Nintendo would do.
I think they will allow you to not have to unlock stuff again along with unlocking some content between versions.
I think the guy is just kidding, he cut Wolf and Lucas for Wonder Red, Cranky Kong, and Pete Burns.
If he isn't, I meant no offense.
Vermillion
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TheLegendOfCap
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I can easily see them doing a connect 3DS to Wii U to "unlock characters more easily" type of thing but all characters are still unlockable on their own in each game.
Yknow what would be cool?
CONNECT TO WII U TO PLAY WII U STAGES ON 3DS, AND 3DS STAGES ON WII U.
And cross platform trophies!
Edit: I guess I wrote that in all caps as if it was an advertisement hahah
Yknow what would be cool?
CONNECT TO WII U TO PLAY WII U STAGES ON 3DS, AND 3DS STAGES ON WII U.
And cross platform trophies!
Edit: I guess I wrote that in all caps as if it was an advertisement hahah
What, no hate for Icicle Mountain?
Presumably because nobody wants to play as hideous spiky Other M Ridley.
Big Blue isn't a stage I'd want to fight on all the time, but it's so wild and chaotic that it made a great breather between more standard matches. I'll take more designs in that vein over more Battlefield variants.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
Via DLC unlock macro-transaction that's released a year after the Wii U version.
Ridley aside, Pyrosphere has to be the worst stage revealed so far, I really don't like it, seems boring and uneventful. Also I'm not really keen on the idea of bosses interrupting fights in general.
Actually the new Zero Suit Samus is different from the Other M counterpart: case in point the boots. Sakurai probably noticed how shit Other M Samus design was and decided he could do better. The same would happen with Ridley, he knows everybody loves Super Metroid Ridley, he has probably also noticed that it's overall the best design of Ridley.
Actually the new Zero Suit Samus is different from the Other M counterpart: case in point the boots. Sakurai probably noticed how shit Other M Samus design was and decided he could do better. The same would happen with Ridley, he knows everybody loves Super Metroid Ridley, he has probably also noticed that it's overall the best design of Ridley.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I doubt they will have you interoperate to unlock characters if only because how would you even stop people from just passing a copy of Wii U Smash around
C.Olimar788
Member
I think Icicle Mountain strikes a good balance between good fighting and the stage making itself unique. Usually it just scrolls up or down slowly, after all, and when it does scroll quickly it's easy enough to keep up. It's very much unlike Rumble Falls, which tries for the same gimmick but is too busy as a stage and thus fails spectacularly in being actually fun to play on, especially as characters that don't have good jumps.
Big Blue has an interesting idea (ground is deadly as opposed to falling off the bottom) but pulls it off badly - the platforms are glitchy and weird, the cars are random and so the stage is sometimes much more difficult to get around than it should be... I'm looking forward to trying Spirit Train as it looks to solve many of Big Blue's problems in that regard.
Spring-Loaded
Member
That's the point.
ArchedThunder
Banned
All Ganondorfs and Ganons are the same character.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
If there is any reference, I don't get it. What do you meant by that?
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
It's more about making people buy a Wii U than it is about making them buy a copy of Smash U.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Except for the one that's not of course.
ArchedThunder
Banned
No, all of them are the same, some are from split time lines, but they are all the same.
ShockingAlberto
Member
That's probably the worst plan I've ever heard
It would just sabotage both versions
Though I'm guessing someone is going to say "Because Nintendo" because saying that is easier than explaining why anyone, anywhere, would consider doing that
Not a lot of people seem too keen on playing high-heels Samus either.
The way I see it that has every potential to be even more confusing cause then you have to juggle a boss Ridley that looks like Other M and a playable one that only mostly looks like he's from Other M, assuming Sakurai wants to try to keep the character designs updated.
But I guess that's left to see assuming he's even in the game.
Based on nothing but what happens in Other M I say he remembers Samus. His actions are intelligent and directed. He seems to have a grudge against her. Why he remembers isn't explained, but it wouldn't be the only thing in that game that's poorly explained. Misunderstanding of how clones work? Copying an Alien Resurrection plot point without explaining it? It doesn't really matter. What matters is what happened in the game.
Lyle was the explosives expert member of Adam's team. After he was killed the Exam Center was mysteriously blown up with explosives. It's more likely that the Deleter killed Lyle and took his explosives and Ridley scavenged his body.
In his second form he approaches the Exam Center and pays no mind to anyone there. He spots Samus and starts climbing the tower to reach her. He goes after her and only her. She never presents a threat to him. He goes after her. She only starts going after him after he starts attacking her and causing havoc on the ship. He could just prey on the weaker lifeforms, change into his adult form, and fly away. Why does he go after Samus if he doesn't remember her?
Nah, Prime Meta-Ridley is easily the best. Zero Mission Ridley is the best normal Ridley.
Pyrosphere's main issue is that it's from one of the most visually boring Metroid games ever.
wha?! thought he was just reborn/ reincarnated like link and zelda was? with no memory of there past.
Beelzebufo
Banned
The one in FSA is a different person. Even if it's the original one reincarnated, it's not any different from the Ridley situation.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Nope, Ganon himself is the same. Everyone else is reincarnated/earns the triforce.
ArchedThunder
Banned
No, he is constantly sealed away or killed and then resurrected by someone. Every Ganon is the same Ganon.
No, he is the same Ganon resurrected from the dead. This has happened multiple times before. Magic bringing the dead back to life is NOT the same as cloning something that is dead.
BTW we know have Zero Suit Samus and Sheik as separate characters, meaning we have two Samus and two Zelda in the same roster guys... and you worry about Other M Ridley and Ridley being confusing? Come on, it's not like the two Toon Link, who were virtually identic clothing aside.
My sarcasm meter must be broken, I've seen so many crazy rosters in the past I could believe anyone to be serious.
My sarcasm meter must be broken, I've seen so many crazy rosters in the past I could believe anyone to be serious.
The Ganondorf in Ocarina of Time diverges into multiple timelines and in each one it's the very same that retains his memory from Ocarina of Time, because rather than being killed he was sealed. He retains all of his memories in the games that follow as he wages battle against Link and Zelda's successors. It's why he harbors a large grudge towards Link and Hyrule in Wind Waker, and why that's the only game where he's driven by a personal motivation rather than wanting to conquer the world.
It would also make little sense for it to be a different Ganondorf because Gerudo is an all-female tribe with a male only being born every 100 years, unless every male in the tribe is a Ganondorf clone.
Beelzebufo
Banned
It's stated that he has a different backstory and that he was born again. They're as much different characters as the two Ridleys are, just one in scifi and the other is fantasy. It's also a different situation from something like Zelda II or the Oracle games where the old Ganon is brought back to life through Dark Magic. The Ganondorf in FSA isn't even a Gerudo.
Tom Nook still has a chance even though he is part of Villager's final smash because we saw Timmy and Tommy in the background of the Animal Crossing stage and he is wearing his old apron during the Smash while he was wearing his jumper during the first Smash trailer.
The shudder was more for Prodigy, you'd be around b/c you'd be able to not talk about said topics
Beelzebufo
Banned
This would actually make a lot of sense, I hadn't realized the clothing differences before. He would make a good second character. Why would Sakurai tease is with Nook in the reveal trailer, then not even have him wear the same clothes in the FS?
Red Arremer
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theprodigy
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Yagami_Sama
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Tingle would be hilarious.
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