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[Boss Doggie]

I think that's what he said about transformations. I was referring more to the speculation about the 3DS capabilities in handling 8 characters (4 Ice Climbers) at once. Although if the issue is RAM, then rekameohs debunked that.

iirc it wouldn't be problem since most of the trouble the game has is usually loading characters midgame rather than having them out. Hell, You got Olimar which is like 4 characters at once

 

[rekameohs]

The thing also that makes me hopeful is that there isn't half of the memory being taken up by a giant story mode... At least that doesn't seem like the case.

More room for characters and stages!

Spoiler

...and trophies, and Adventure Mode 2, and Smash Run, and Smash Run HD, etc...

And then also keep in mind that RAM is "Random Access Memory"! So that means that it's only being accessed at any given time. So no single-player stuff will be accessed during the multiplayer battles. It was just be stuff like accessing Sheik's character files when you press Down+B as Zelda (well, not anymore...!), loading the various items, etc.

For seeing how much storage the various modes will take up, look at the storage capacity of the optical media of the systems. And again, 3DS is quite powerful in comparison: the cartridges can hold 8 GB of data, while GameCube held 1.5 GB. The Brawl disc was dual-layered, which hold roughly 8.5 GB of data, but almost certainly the bulk of that were the CG Subspace Emissary cutscenes that won't be in this version.

 

[Freezie KO]

iirc it wouldn't be problem since most of the trouble the game has is usually loading characters midgame rather than having them out. Hell, You got Olimar which is like 4 characters at once

We do have Olimar again, but he's down to 3 pikmin. So hopefully that was due to balancing, and not technical limitations.

 

[Fandangox]

Man you guys are making me wish I had bought Xenoblade when I got a chance...

I really hope Shulk is in, he looks cool. Or rather, his sword looks cool and I want to see him hit Mario with it.

Slight Xenoblade Spoilers below I guess:

Not Mario, but you get to see him hitting Lin- Dunban with it.

 

[soviet prince]

What research? You mean going onto internet forums and seeing what less than .01% of actual smash bros players want? Internet forums and outcry represent a very small number of consumers. If he only added what internet forums wanted we'd have no Wii Fit trainer.

That also doesn't make him a jerk. That's a very self-centered remark to make.

"He only showed a shadow of ridley and didn't make him playable, he's a jerk" sounds an awful lot like "My mom said she was getting me dessert, but it wasn't ice cream, she's a jerk!"

the people that go on the boards are in fact a good rep sample of the wants in smash, those are there devoted fans you like to please. people who breath are most exited for the game are posting. How do you compare being a boss to a desert? a desert can be still good but a boss is just not wanted. A better fit for that example is if people wanted super metroid ridley but got other m ridley instead. Other m is less desired but is still good just like a desert would be.

See but here's something else to consider: When has Sakurai ever done a fakeout without immediately revealing it's a troll right afterwards. All those examples you mentioned are things that got cleared up immediately, not left hanging for months

And swapping out Alfonso for conductor link who is more a background detail than anything is hardly comparable to switching out a stage hazard that plays an active role in the fight

when ridley is playable no stage hazard problem solved. Alphonso gives hope to all, if your in need you can always leave it to him.

Honestly I'm not even convinced Sakurai even really has a good understanding of the western fanbases desire for Ridley. He can't speak English, so it's likely any knowledge of western requests comes secondhand from god knows what source if any. And even if he did know, I don't think Sakurai really cares all that much about what characters the fans want as opposed to what characters he thinks will work well and deserve a spot

which is why I think it's about time for a new director, I want someone in charge that will cater to all parts of the globe

 

[Kyzon]

We do have Olimar again, but he's down to 3 pikmin. So hopefully that was due to balancing, and not technical limitations.

Balancing I'd assume. Less pikmin to keep up with, and Teathers are no longer B moves..... Except for maybe Zero Suit Samus' Side B

 

[C.Olimar788]

The thing also that makes me hopeful is that there isn't half of the memory being taken up by a giant story mode... At least that doesn't seem like the case.

Edit: I guess I should post my dream roster to see what you guys think!

Dream roster? Absolutely.
Realistic? Probably not.

I want that roster injected directly into my veins. It is glorious.

Spoiler

It will never happen, hahahah *cries*

It has like every one of my most wanted Nintendo characters. Rhythm Heaven character? Check. Ridley? Check. Wonder Red? Check. It even has Balloon Fighter and Chibi-Robo! And no Brawl cuts!

Maybe that will be the roster for Smash 5, haha.

 

[Fandangox]

which is why I think it's about time for a new director, I want someone in charge that will cater to all parts of the globe

Isn't Little Mac an example of a character that was a lot more popular in the west than in the east?

Doesn't Star fox kind of fits that deal too, what with 3 characters?

 

[Benzychenz]

Sakurai is the best because rather than just putting in every one of the most requested characters he puts in stuff we didn't know we wanted like Rosalina, Wii Fit Trainer and

Spoiler

Chorus Kids

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The roster would be boring if it was just Brawl + Ridley, K Rool, Dixie Kong, Mewtwo, Little Mac, Palutena etc.

 

[JoeM86]

which is why I think it's about time for a new director, I want someone in charge that will cater to all parts of the globe

That's a bit excessive, don't you think?

 

[LaNaranja]

which is why I think it's about time for a new director, I want someone in charge that will cater to all parts of the globe

This is what I don't want. I want someone in charge that has a vision and sticks by it. Newcomers like Wii Fit Trainer and Greninja are characters no one was asking for and yet they make the line-up look way more interesting and varied.

 

[JoeM86]

This is what I don't want. I want someone in charge that has a vision and sticks by it. Newcomers like Wii Fit Trainer and Greninja are characters no one was asking for and yet they make the line-up look way more interesting and varied.

Exactly. When a games company, tv show, movie series etc. start capitulating to the views of the vocal minority fanbase, that's when the product loses quality.

 

[Vampirolol]

Sakurai is the best and that's why I want him to work on other games.

 

[Loco4Coco]

I'll be the next director of Smash! I'll put in every character you command!

Spoiler

Online will be bad though.

 

[Hatchtag]

I think Sakurai's really good at balancing fan-requested characters with surprising ones, IMO. Which is kind of why I don't think that leaked roster contains everything. I feel like there'd be a few more highly wanted characters (Ridley, Mewtwo, ect.).

 

[Tomohawk]

Sakurai is the best and that's why I want him to work on other games.

Ya sakurai has a very unique flavor that I'd hate to see tied down to 1 game. It would be best if this was his last smash.

 

[BGBW]

The more characters they have the more icons they'll need to squash on to the character select screen. My in depserate need of being updated roster managed to have 48 squares but perhaps I could try squeezing in another row and column for 65. Of course this assumes they stick to the same layout as previous games.

 

[Shun]

Square Enix to become a partner with Nintendo. Next Smash Bros. to feature Toriyama Motomu as guest director.

Roses, Roses Everywhere.

 

[BGBW]

Roses, Roses Everywhere.

 

[Busaiku]

You know, seeing all those fake roster lists, it makes me remember that Star Fox had 3 reps in the last game.
Meanwhile, Fire Emblem was stuck with 2 forever, when there are literally hundreds of characters to choose from.

Super Mario, Pokemon, The Legend of Zelda, sure, they're at least relevant.

 

[Regulus Tera]

You know, seeing all those fake roster lists, it makes me remember that Star Fox had 3 reps in the last game.
Meanwhile, Fire Emblem was stuck with 2 forever, when there are literally hundreds of characters to choose from.

Sakurai's furry agenda comes through.

 

[Fandangox]

Hell you could have a smash-type game with only Fire Emblem characters.

That'd be pretty interesting.

 

[Linkhero1]

Sakurai's furry agenda comes through.

We need more Star Fox characters. Krystal and Prince Tricky pls Sakurai.

 

[Not]

I don't even see Star Fox characters as furries. Although I guess they are?

 

[Loco4Coco]

Hell you could have a smash-type game with only Fire Emblem characters.

That'd be pretty interesting.

No, too many blue haired Lords.

 

[Busaiku]

Yeah, but they could have different weapons.

 

[Fandangox]

No, too many blue haired Lords.

I was thinking a Fire Emblem fighting game would actually have representation form all the classes and not that many lords.

 

[Regulus Tera]

No, too many blue haired Lords.

Hence why Roy should come back!

 

[Cody_D165]

this would be damn near the perfect Smash roster in my book.

 

[HawthorneKitty]

Hell you could have a smash-type game with only Fire Emblem characters.

That'd be pretty interesting.

People would start wondering why the weapon triangle isn't working.

 

[tonyh24613]

Pic of the day. Here's a special stage exclusive to the 3DS version, Balloon Fight!! The stage loops on the left and right sides so you can walk off one side and appear on the other.

 

[SuperSah]

Balloon Fight!

I wonder if this is one of those multiple image days.

I love the 8-Bit aesthetic.

 

[theprodigy]

I was thinking a Fire Emblem fighting game would actually have representation form all the classes and not that many lords.

Blue hair sword wielding lords: Marth, Sigurd, Celice, Eirika (light blue), Ike, Chrom, Lucina (sort of)

eh even that group isn't too big

 

[TheLegendOfCap]

Villager doesn't have his Balloons!

Balloon Fighter confirmed!

Spoiler

</3

 

[Loco4Coco]

I really don't like that wide gap in the middle of that stage.

Edit: I guess with the sides looping it evens it out I guess?

 

[Lord_Byron28]

No, too many blue haired Lords.

There is a lot more potential for example using tiki, Anna and Robin since they are recurring characters throughout the series.

 

[MrSaturn99]

Pic of the day. Here's a special stage exclusive to the 3DS version, Balloon Fight!! The stage loops on the left and right sides so you can walk off one side and appear on the other.

They should've done this for Mario Bros.

 

[theprodigy]

Pic of the day. Here's a special stage exclusive to the 3DS version, Balloon Fight!! The stage loops on the left and right sides so you can walk off one side and appear on the other.

The stage loops?
#UNBANNED

 

[SuperSah]

I wonder if only up smashes work?

 

[Cody_D165]

They should've done this for Mario Bros.

I feel like it wouldn't have worked as well due to the fact there'd be no ability to KO out of the bottom of the stage like there is here.

 

[lolpho]

hmm, what other stage would work with walk-off walls?

Spoiler

wakka wakka

 

[SenorArdilla]

Pic of the day. Here's a special stage exclusive to the 3DS version, Balloon Fight!! The stage loops on the left and right sides so you can walk off one side and appear on the other.

Flipper's back as a stage hazard as we already know. Maybe we'll get some bubbles or lightning in there as well.

 

[Regulus Tera]

Pic of the day. Here's a special stage exclusive to the 3DS version, Balloon Fight!! The stage loops on the left and right sides so you can walk off one side and appear on the other.

We really are only getting stuff from the Direct until the next one, aren't we?

 

[Anth0ny]

We really are only getting stuff from the Direct until the next one, aren't we?

we're set til e3, for sure

 

[SuperSah]

We really are only getting stuff from the Direct until the next one, aren't we?

Seems like it.

Stage looks sweet viewed on Miiverse on 3DS.

 

[Fandangox]

People would start wondering why the weapon triangle isn't working.

Haha I wonder if that could be implemented into a fighting game without screwing the balance.

Blue hair sword wielding lords: Marth, Sigurd, Celice, Eirika (light blue), Ike, Chrom, Lucina (sort of)

eh even that group isn't too big

Its true, and the best blue haired lord doesn't even use a sword.

Pic of the day. Here's a special stage exclusive to the 3DS version, Balloon Fight!! The stage loops on the left and right sides so you can walk off one side and appear on the other.

Spoiler

Pacman confirmed?

 

[Not]

We really are only getting stuff from the Direct until the next one, aren't we?

Aren't these brand new screenshots though?

 

[L00P]

It had a different set-up in the nintendo direct footage. So maybe it's like the Animal Crossing stage?

 

[BGBW]

The stage loops?
#UNBANNED

You didn't notice that in the Direct?

 

[Richie]

A console game stage being exclusive to the 3DS? And one I actually wanted on both systems, damn. Oh well.