Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 7: How Can My Smash Brother Be This Cut

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Damn the new Pac-Man is scary.
Although it wouldn't surprise me if he is playable, I don't think he will be.
 
Intentionally gimped character? Link is the Dan of Smash.

Link is bad on his own in smash. Ganondorf though is a bad version of Captain Falcon

I knew it was bad when I saw his running animation. Still the funniest fucking thing ever.

What's more, regarding Link, it's kinda hilarious playing Project M and realizing that Link can never ever be just OK. It's either he's shit tier as hell or oppressive as fuck.

:( I'm still salty about Brawl Ganondorf. I main him nevertheless though.

There's no middle ground for Link when he's fighting. *remember's Soul Calibur*
 
Yeah. I know.

I'm not sure if I'd consider Ganondorf the Dan of Smash considering that Sakurai didn't intentionally make him a joke character...or did he. We'll find out when he's revealed for U and 3DS.
Have you seen Ganondorf's animations? Awe-inducing they ain't.
 
Yeah. I know.

I'm not sure if I'd consider Ganondorf the Dan of Smash considering that Sakurai didn't intentionally make him a joke character...or did he. We'll find out when he's revealed for U and 3DS.



Greatest Of All Time

He's a joke to Sakurai

He runs while panting... "Uff uff uff!"- Sakurai on Ganondorf
 
I have a hard time believing that after all the fine-tuning that's gone into every other characters moveset that Ganondorf wouldn't come back at least SLIGHTLY improved.
 
If Pacman's in, it'll probably be based on this design:
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It's the most modern one that could work at all, and seeing how Sonic and Megaman's designs aren't taken right out of another game, the team behind Smash will probably have some liberty on the design.
 
Then you're doing it wrong. Bayonetta is 1000x more interesting than Pacman, and a natural choice for a brawler like SSBros.

I'll take Pac-Man over the character that has barely any relevance to Nintendo, barely any history at all, and would probably have to have her character sacrificed to even fit (no getting naked from hair attacks, probably no overly sexual poses or bullets).
 
I'll take Pac-Man over the character that has barely any relevance to Nintendo, barely any history at all, and would probably have to have her character sacrificed to even fit (no getting naked from hair attacks, probably no overly sexual poses or bullets).
Agreed. Pac-Man is a legend. He would fit right at home in Smash.
 
I'll take Pac-Man over the character that has barely any relevance to Nintendo, barely any history at all, and would probably have to have her character sacrificed to even fit (no getting naked from hair attacks, probably no overly sexual poses or bullets).
Mechanically, she'd be amazing. Her SSB version would have such a rich moveset to draw from. To me, gameplay is the highest priority. Pacman would make a fine assist trophy.
 
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I still believe. Just you guys wait until he's revealed with an entirely different moveset.

Flame Choke and his Down Air has to stay if anything. Those are too good!

He needs a projectile as well. One that can be reflected by melee attacks. It can be called Deadman's Volley
 
leaving out a highly demanded character for no LEGIT reason at all = does not make any sense business wise at all. West got what little mac and that''s pretty much it when japan got shulk, paletania chorus men. Also it's very childish to make fun of someone on the forum, how about contributing some CONSTRUCTIVE post.
Woah did I miss the surprise direct with these guys?

The West also got Shulk, Palutena, and Chorus Men. The first two are also highly requested characters in the West, and the while the Chorus Men weren't requested anywhere, Rhythm Heaven is popular in both regions. You might as well be saying "Japan got Ike" about Brawl.
This too.
 
Zero Suit Samus
I knew this was coming. ZSS's whip and rocket boots are cute but Bayonetta's arsenal dwarfs hers. She's got a ridiculous array of projectile and melee weapons. Toss in animal transformations and time altering mechanics and...yeah.
 
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I still believe. Just you guys wait until he's revealed with an entirely different moveset.

Changes confirmed:

He now pulls his sword out in every attack. Animations are unchanged from brawl except for an additional sword pull/sheathing after every attack.

Bonus change:
When captain falcon and ganondorf are both out at the same time, Falcons "show me your moves!" taunt changes to him rolling on the floor laughing.
 
Odd when in WW he can jump 10 feet in the air while twirling around. Oh right, that's Toon Ganondorf.

I would take Toon Ganondorf over Twilight Princess Ganondorf anyday. TP Ganondorf is too weighty. Even in Project M, he doesn't look right moving at the speed of Melee Ganondorf. Toon Ganondorf, however, would probably look right moving around at Melee Ganondorf's speed.
 
I think they'd work better as hazards than bosses... Talonflame would be ridiculously hard to hit with its size and speed. Maybe it would work better if you replace it with Pyroar. Aegislash's gimmick also might not work that well in a non-turn-based game.

I do love the idea of their strongest Pokemon attacking the fighters. I'd love more stage hazards in Smash 4 with the option to turn certain ones on and off.
Talonflame wouldn't be a problem. It's all in how you design him. Simply have him float in place at one side of the stage, giving players ample opportunity to leap up and hit him, dealing damage (not unlike how Yellow Devil stands in place before moving). Then he divebombs a few times, making passes at the opponents below, before floating in place on the other side of the stage.

Aside from being Malva's strongest Pokémon, Talonflame should also get priority as one of the most popular Pokémon in use in competitive Pokémon.
 
Now that I think about it, you can really make a strong case for Ganondorf being a joke character. Between his running animation, the sword, Sakurai's dojo comments, and even stuff like how his aerials give more lag when he makes contact with the ground...

Maybe it's some kind of joke? Like to contrast with how he's like this evil mastermind in SSE?
 
Now that I think about it, you can really make a strong case for Ganondorf being a joke character. Between his running animation, the sword, Sakurai's dojo comments, and even stuff like how his aerials give more lag when he makes contact with the ground...

Maybe it's some kind of joke? Like to contrast with how he's like this evil mastermind in SSE?
Why do you think he became the evil mastermind in SSE? He wanted to take revenge on Smash Bros for making him so weak.
 
Talonflame wouldn't be a problem. It's all in how you design him. Simply have him float in place at one side of the stage, giving players ample opportunity to leap up and hit him, dealing damage (not unlike how Yellow Devil stands in place before moving). Then he divebombs a few times, making passes at the opponents below, before floating in place on the other side of the stage.

Aside from being Malva's strongest Pokémon, Talonflame should also get priority as one of the most popular Pokémon in use in competitive Pokémon.

but he already does ;)
 
Now that I think about it, you can really make a strong case for Ganondorf being a joke character. Between his running animation, the sword, Sakurai's dojo comments, and even stuff like how his aerials give more lag when he makes contact with the ground...

Maybe it's some kind of joke? Like to contrast with how he's like this evil mastermind in SSE?

It's to justify why the Old Man palette swap exists.
 
Malva's room -- Talonflame:
Wikstrom's room -- Aegislash:
Drasna's room -- Noivern:
Siebold's room -- Barbaracle:
Diantha's room -- Mega Gardevoir:
Talonflame wouldn't be a problem. It's all in how you design him. Simply have him float in place at one side of the stage, giving players ample opportunity to leap up and hit him, dealing damage (not unlike how Yellow Devil stands in place before moving). Then he divebombs a few times, making passes at the opponents below, before floating in place on the other side of the stage.

Aside from being Malva's strongest Pokémon, Talonflame should also get priority as one of the most popular Pokémon in use in competitive Pokémon.

Agreed. All really good gen 6 reps here. I won't hold my breath but I'd like to see it.
 
You don't employ a team for over a year without some way to pay the bills.

That's not... how it works... You don't delay a game for DLC, if the game is done you release it and then do DLC later. You don't just delay a game to make DLC so you can keep paying the team, you move them onto DLC and move everyone else onto a new game.
Lack of 3DS releases for the first half of 2014. It's pretty much the same reason DKCTF got delayed. The game wasn't delayed for fun. DLC was just finished before the game released.

If that's so it makes a little more sense, but they shoulda spent the time making courses for the base game, not DLC.
 
That's not... how it works... You don't delay a game for DLC, if the game is done you release it and then do DLC later. You don't just delay a game to make DLC so you can keep paying the team, you move them onto DLC and move everyone else onto a new game.

Lack of 3DS releases for the first half of 2014. It's pretty much the same reason DKCTF got delayed. The game wasn't delayed for fun. DLC was just finished before the game released.

There's your answer. They delayed the game so that they had a 3DS game for early 2014, then made new content to justify the delay. New content costs money so it's DLC.
 
If that's so it makes a little more sense, but they shoulda spent the time making courses for the base game, not DLC.

The game already has more courses than any other Mario Golf. If the majority of the game was done but still had enough time between release to develop this content outside of the budget of the base game, they took that opportunity.

It was never going to just be freely added to the base game, it costs money to develop twice as much content.
 
If that's so it makes a little more sense, but they shoulda spent the time making courses for the base game, not DLC.

The DLC might have been planned before the delay was announced. Nintendo probably had an eye on a $29.99 price point with some DLC on the side stuck with that. I haven't been following the game since the delay but it's definitely something Nintendo would do.

The game already has more courses than any other Mario Golf. If the majority of the game was done but still had enough time between release to develop this content outside of the budget of the base game, they took that opportunity.

It was never going to just be freely added to the base game, it costs money to develop twice as much content.

Yeah, they have to monetize on the content somehow. I don't think we'll get something similar with Smash.
 
The game already has more courses than any other Mario Golf. If the majority of the game was done but still had enough time between release to develop this content outside of the budget of the base game, they took that opportunity.

It was never going to just be freely added to the base game, it costs money to develop twice as much content.

It's scummy, they are selling a season pass for future content that was finish before the game was released. For all we know it might even be on the cart which would mean we are looking at a Street Fighter X Tekken situation where a massive amount of the content is locked behind a pay wall.
Season Passes alone are gross, but this is even worse.
 
It's scummy, they are selling a season pass for future content that was finish before the game was released. For all we know it might even be on the cart which would mean we are looking at a Street Fighter X Tekken situation where a massive amount of the content is locked behind a pay wall.
Season Passes alone are gross, but this is even worse.

If it was on the cart then you wouldn't have to download a trial pack to play the trial courses.

Season Passes are gross because they don't tell you what you're buying beforehand. Here, they're literally outlining every detail of DLC before you drop any money on it and giving you a better deal on it.
 
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