Lord_Byron28
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"And youse tell your boy, Mario, if he puts me in the bottom tier again you both will get a cap in your ass."Some new screenshots of ZSS were uploaded to the Official Facebook page 5 hours ago, including this gem:
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 7: How Can My Smash Brother Be This Cut
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DisconnectD
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I switched to buttons for up tilts since they are easier to pull off. (You don't have to tap jump, hold up on analog then wait to land to do them) but I do kinda miss using the analog to jump as to endure when doing dair spikes w/ Marth, that I wouldn't fast fall. ( yes, I know if you jump first, you won't but using jump and c stick felt noooice.)
We got a vanilla expert over here
theprodigy
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"vanilla" is a common term for the base product, just like in....MvC3 for example
just deal with it
just deal with it
It's not really strange because D-pad can't really differentiate between smash attacks and tilts very well. I forget how the single Wiimote works for this but I remember hearing it's really convoluted and kinda awful -- especially for simply trying to walk vs run.
A lot of Smash relies on the control stick sensitivity for many moves that a D-pad simply can't match. It makes sense to me why you can't map primary movement to it on anything.
Baron von Loathsome
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Vanilla Street Fighter IV, vanilla World of WarCraft, I mean come on.
So I finally watched the Zero Punctuation episode for Brawl. It was... Not very funny. :-/ I felt like I got whiplash since I watched it after one of the more recent episodes. I forgot how unlikeable Yahtzee could be, although I guess some of it is because he didn't want to play the game in the first place.
Also reminds me of the good old days when people thought the name Wii was actually bad.
Also reminds me of the good old days when people thought the name Wii was actually bad.
Beelzebufo
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I think Wiimote works like a Kirby game, hit twice to run/Smash.
Thankfully the 3DS has the slider, that wouldn't have gone well otherwise.
BassForever
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There's no consensus, most players do use one of the jump buttons but there are players who def. use "up" on the control stick to jump. "Up" is especially useful for accessing your out of shield options (if your character even has any, of course). An example of an OOS option would be Bowser's Up B. If you turn off tap jump and you're in your shield, you effectively can't use Bowser's Up B out of his shield. So if you want access to something like that, it's better to leave tap jump on.
There's other examples, of course, but Bowser's Up B is just an easy one to use. The reason why tap jump needs to be on is because "up" is both used for jumping out of your shield (which is possible with buttons but it's slower and not as practical to do for this particular example) and let's you also press B at the exact same time to perform Up B. It's a good OOS option because Bowser's Up B has invinc on the first beginning frames of the move (I think it's frames 1-5 iirc).
Some players even claw their controllers and in those instances they prefer using the tap jump to jump, I think.
Vanilla ice cream is fucking delicious.
Would that be Project M or Brawl-?Vanilla brawl sucks
Chocolate brawl however
DisconnectD
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Vanilla brawl sucks
Chocolate brawl however
lol
Majukun
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i think the ice climbers will be present adss unlockables,so we will not know about them until very near the release of the 3ds version,when all the roster will leak
DisconnectD
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Exactly. Vanilla is delicious. Vanilla being bland is completely subjective so why not call a spade a spade and say "plain Brawl" if you want to go out of the way to add another adjective.
Beelzebufo
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Okay, I hope you realize you're being needlessly difficult though. Nobody's saying vanilla ice cream isn't good. Just like vanilla SF4 is still a pretty fun game (especially if you like Sagat).
Ice cream is cool, so we use the ice cream term. You really just have to get over it.
I'm not protesting the usage of the slang, I just wanted to clarify that vanilla ice cream is fucking great.
It's just... how the term has become to be known as, dood. Comes from the modding scene primarily, if I recall and that's why it makes sense to refer to regular Brawl as "vanilla" when it has so many mods. "Vanilla" means no mods at all (which would include custom music, textures, stages, etc. not just things like Project M and Brawl-).
That's why I would use the term anyway if I happen to be talking about certain mechanisms and systems in the game that can change by using codes (for example, there is a code out there that let's you set the D-Pad to do any button except actual character movement in the custom controls menu).
Definitely early on when the term was being used to describe regular Brawl peeps did get offended by it but nowadays it's generally accepted because of the plethora of modifications the game has.
DisconnectD
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theprodigy
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This is the problem here, you're taking it as some sort of slight when it isn't.
DisconnectD
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powerdrain
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I know this was all discussed yesterday and you've all moved on since but, I just wanted to touch on it again even if it seems like a somewhat petty argument on the surface this is just my views on the situation.I still have some problems. All of those characters you talked about only appearing in one game aren't the only characters in their franchise, so they aren't comparable situations. The Chorus Men have all of the qualities you referred to Marshall having (more than one game, on cover), while additionally making cameos in two completely different games (Fever and Game&Wario). They also do all of this in the most successful game in the series, in which they are the only ones on the cover. The hand thing doesn't matter at all. Kirby doesn't have hands. I would also argue that they're much more interesting character-wise than Marshall, and they can also do everything Marshall can do and then some, because once again there's three of them. I'm glad we can agree that they're really popular though.
But like I said, the leak (which is honestly the only reason to expect either of them at all) specifically mentions "Chorus Men", not Marshall, so it's not Marshall anyway. It's not even comparable to "Pokemon from X/Y" or "Animal Crossing Guy", but a specific name, like "WiiFit Trainer" or "Palutena".
Presumably because there's three.
All arrows point to both the characters being linked and that Marshal is an evolution of the Chorus Men design, and from them making cameos in other games and being on the cover of the first game/ost etc. they've definitely been marketed as a mascot of sorts, and that mascot image from RH has been adapted into the "perfected" mold of Marshal himself in the latest installment.
I really really want either "adaptations" of the character to make it into the game somehow, but I am torn since the prospect of controlling three Chorus Men similar to the Ice Climbers sounds awesome, but then again, I feel Marshal is now being marketed as a "host" or "face" of the franchise, following the Chorus Men in RH, and as such feel he'd be a better fit as a representative of sorts, though on the surface he sounds less fun or unique as a trio of characters, even if they are slightly more recognisable (though as I said, they are pretty much identical overall). Hopefully you can see where I'm coming from with this. I really want either character in but lean towards Marshal appearing on his own since he's more future-proof in my eyes, and I'm sure we'll see him again in another installment.
I will say this though - in that clip Ryce posted from RHF, the character there does seem to resemble the Chorus Men more........he do gots Marshal's red cheeks thooo~~~. So the jury is out really on the matter. But just to say, if the leak turns out false for whatever reason and for prediction's sake, I just think it'd be better for them to represent the series with Marshal in particular since he's essentially the same character which people will recognise, but him, along with his Chorus Men background are being touted as the "face" of the franchise, in the series itself, and out of it.
And I do agree with the whole specific naming thing. If the leak turns out true then it would seem the Chorus Men ARE what we're getting and I would still love that, and all my opinion on the matter meant naught but oh well.
People seeing this post are probably thinking "Damn these two are going off about if a character has rosy cheeks and hands or not".
Americone Dream is the only ice cream worth talking about.
DisconnectD
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Baron von Loathsome
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I have a feeling that the leaker (not Salromano, the actual leaker) isn't involved in the game at all and is only getting his/her leaks from someone who is, like a translator. It would potentially explain the vagueness of the "Pokemon from X & Y" tidbit.
Under that scenario, perhaps he wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the Choir Boys and Marshall and just called them Choir Boys after finding them in a Google Search.
Maybe I'm overthinking this.
Under that scenario, perhaps he wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the Choir Boys and Marshall and just called them Choir Boys after finding them in a Google Search.
Maybe I'm overthinking this.
TheLegendOfCap
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Its all about that Cake Batter ice cream. 
I'm thinking its this. If the leaker said "White kid from Rhythm Heaven" and middle guy searches said description of it on Google, finds Chorus Men, then here we are.
I think we are over thinking it though haha
I'm thinking its this. If the leaker said "White kid from Rhythm Heaven" and middle guy searches said description of it on Google, finds Chorus Men, then here we are.
I think we are over thinking it though haha
It's definitely not Marshal; the character in the video is wearing a bow tie. The Chorus Men have also been depicted as having red cheeks (last panel).
DisconnectD
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Coffee ice cream with Espresso beans is where it's at. Truthfact
MrSaturn99
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Hey, I always thought Vanilla Brawl made sense.
...in that vanilla is the only flavor of ice cream I eat and I don't play any Brawl mods.
...in that vanilla is the only flavor of ice cream I eat and I don't play any Brawl mods.
Yes.
Baron von Loathsome
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It would also explain why he's been so light on details.
Do you like chocolate bars at least?
TheLegendOfCap
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That red cheeks in the last panel is an emotion depiction, nothing really else about it.
That has to be Marshal, he's in the game the entire way through from tutorial to credits and they put "NOT Marshal" in the pea game? That sounds weird to me.
theprodigy
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Nope, I don't like cake either.
We can't be friends, ever.
...Looks like I'll have to return and take you up on that 'offer'
What kind of desserts do you like?
Beelzebufo
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He would have said white kids then, not kid. It's hard to confused one with many. Also, I'm pretty sure Gamatsu has been giving word-for-word relays, so I don't think this is a possibility.Its all about that Cake Batter ice cream.
I'm thinking its this. If the leaker said "White kid from Rhythm Heaven" and middle guy searches said description of it on Google, finds Chorus Men, then here we are.
I think we are over thinking it though haha
Also, I still disagree with the whole "Marshall is the face of the series" thing. He's the host of one game, so far Chorus Men have appeared in all of the international games plus WarioWare, they're more well known.
Monkeys would be cool, but there's too many of them. Chorus Men would be able to bring in at least the one in a final smash or something.
"They put Marshall in without a bow tie from the tutorial to the credits and then put in 'Bowtie Marshall' in the pea game? That sounds weird to me".
It's one of the chorus boys.
DisconnectD
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Do you like pizza?
FUNKNOWN iXi
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lmfao What the shit? This is seriously the best thread in the world.. One day we see people getting banned for posting questionable pics teetering on hentai, the next we see people arguing over something Pokemon related, and now we see people arguing over flavors of ice cream being used to describe versions of games.
<3
<3
Karsticles
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You know what I had that was good recently? Birthday cake ice cream. Yum.
Baron von Loathsome
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The fact that you guy are arguing over such small details kinda lends credence to my theory.
Save 'N Quit
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We talking cake?
Because I love cookie cake.
So good~
Because I love cookie cake.
So good~
DisconnectD
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That really hits the spot sometimes. Just like Brawl
Brawl is Birthday cake ice cream tier confirmed
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