I believe they would have all loved to have a full stable of Brad Pitts.
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Donald Sterling (slum lord and LA Clippers Owner).. yeah, still a racist scum bag
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I believe they would have all loved to have a full stable of Brad Pitts.
Marauder Shields
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Not really a surprise given Sterling's history.
He needs black players to show off their beautiful bodies to his lady friends.
Players not playing hurts him though.What we will see is that if these players care more about common decency than their own wants.
MLK Jr could have easily just let it slide too. You dont think he wanted to live a nice long life with his family? He put the greater good above himself, and we will see if these players can do the same.
I'm willing to bet that for most of the players who have ever played in the NBA, it's not. =P It's all about the money. So, they will talk out of one side of their mouths while wanting to get paid.
Besides, who the fuck goes to the Clippers to win a title? Please. =)
Marauder Shields
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Hah I remember that story.
dream
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What's the greater good in the NBA in 2014?
Not having a vocal racist running a franchise in one of their major markets.
Ninja Scooter
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I don't think the NBA has wanted Sterling around for a while. If he wasn't acting like a racist fool, he was running a franchise into the dirt and not giving a fuck how bad they were. The problem is removing an owner is hard to do. You can't fix this overnight, especially during the playoffs.
dream
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So what would that change between now and June? Especially when DTS's bigotry has been so widely known for decades?
Sterling has been a racist shit long before these playoffs and the NBA doesn't mind him being there, that's the long and short of it. The press conference today displayed that in full.
I would expect the players to throw the series now. When that is done give him an ultimatum. Leave, or we suspend your team from the league until further notice.
It would fix the PR crisis first and foremost, and set a line in the sand for what the NBA supposedly stands for.
Ninja Scooter
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It's not that they don't mind him, it's that it's not like they can just fire him. He owns the team outright. This might be exactly what certain parties in power have been waiting for as a way to finally get rid of him, it's just not something that's going to happen in a day or two. There are a ton of legal ramifications involved in this that are going to drag it out.
...that sounds incredibly foolish.
Why would a team that is predominantly black leave money and success on the table to prove some kind of half-assed point when they can fully address it without any distractions?
LyleLanley
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While I agree that the NBA has not shown any desire to get rid of Sterling I don't think the press conference exactly proved that the NBA doesn't mind him being there. Silver can't come out and lay down a ruling on Sterling without at least doing the most basic of investigations first.
dream
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I agree that the optics are atrocious (though I'd perversely love to watch Commissioner Silver hand the trophy to DTS). But despite the NBA's tacit acceptance of DTS, I don't think this compromises what it stand for at all. The NBA is a black league in which their players become millionaires by competing in the association. That's why I don't think there's any sense of urgency here.
The same reason MLK Jr, and plenty of others, put their fantastic lives on the line in the 60's for their cause. To stand up for common decency.
We've all known Sterling was a racist, and ignoring it has not made it go away. It has been, mercifully by that thing Sterling called a girlfriend, thrown into their face in front of the world now. You either stand up for yourself, or you just go back to playing a fucking game hoping he goes away(which he wont).
Something something jump, something something fundamentals, something something Larry Bird.
If Sterling acknowledges the voice mail and messages are his, no investigation is necessary. We'll see how he plays it.
Saying the NBA is a "Black league" is like saying the plantations in the old American south were "Black plantations".
Black leagues dont have people like Sterling owning teams.
Black leagues dont have black coaches, looking like he is going to cry, having to answer for the racism of his boss.
LyleLanley
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Yeah but presumably he hasn't done so yet so it would be irresponsible for Silver to lay down the law right away.
dream
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That's a very reductive way of looking at it. The Clippers are one team (a primarily black team at that) in a league in which the majority of players and coaches are black, some GMs are black, and even an owner is black. The NBA may have problems, and I don't disagree that DTS is one of them, but racial equity is not one of them.
This situation is not equivalent to the civil rights movement of the 60s.
You don't seem to understand.
Players stop playing. They hurt plenty of innocent parties and Chris Paul looks incredibly foolish.
Players throw the games. You just created a bunch of cancer players, some who are far from having guaranteed ongoing careers in the NBA.
Players play it out. While this is happening, NBA is looking into methods of transferring power and/or sanctions. Players get all the money they can on the table, and they have lawyers who probably have some real creative methods of voiding or stretching ongoing contracts. Best case scenario, they win the NBA Championship, then turn full heel and avoid all of the fabricated NBA theatrics, generating plenty of leverage.
Well playing isn't going to do a thing. Nothing in these leagues change until something effects the bottom line. You want rapid change? Sit out. Because if not then nothing will change. This issue leaves the spotlight now and it never sees the light of day again.
TheLaughingStock
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Seems like a non-issue.
Saying its a black league is a reductive view too. A black owner out of how many does not make it a black league anymore than the plantation analogy. They obviously arent running anything if a racist could go unchecked as long as Sterling has.
The point remains
If "hurting innocent parties" isolates this racist from the public light and contact then so be it.
Isolate the billion dollar racist, potentially ruin the lives of lower-middle class families.
Smart plan.
Well if they are black their boss wouldnt want them bringing their families around his team anyways..
Common decency is already being stood up for. The players sitting out hurts not only themselves by missing game checks, but the fans who pay good money to see CP and Blake Griffin play. And ultimately the league who will be further mired in this drama.
Donald Sterling has already lost in the court of public opinion, and is pending further losses by sanctions from the league.
...okay? Also, he isn't everyone's boss.
dream
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Okay, but what's the immediate problem? DTS isn't exploiting his black players; look at how much money black players like Elton Brand, Baron Davis, and Cory Maggette have gotten from him. The team isn't being compromised; the Clips are at least the second best team in the west, and DTS isn't involved in the day-to-day operations. The league isn't threatened by DTS's ideology; the players and coaches are mostly black, and racism has never been an issue.
That's why I think winning is more important than dealing with what is ultimately a fringe lunatic whose views are neither (at least publicly) reflected nor adopted by anyone else in the league right now.
And the montgomery bus boycott hurt the bus company workers not directly involved in creating policy...so what?
We ignored this racist for so long that of course there are going to be some bruises when we finally handle it. The fans will be back when this guy sells the club. Put the ball in his hand. If he cares about the people supporting his organization, he will leave.
A guy, who thinks the way he does, should not be running any organization which employs black people. His ideology has hurt the NBA and the Clippers organization because we are discussing it right now(as is his coach on the eve of their playoff match).
benjipwns
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You know what he said about his tenants right?
To stay away from his team?
The ball is already put into Donald Sterling's hand. The players boycotting the playoffs does nothing further to DS. You spend all this capital for a negligible return.
Donald Sterling isn't getting away with this. And once again, this situation is not equivalent to the civil rights movement of the 60s.
Bam Bam Baklava
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They're already letting it go.
benjipwns
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outunderthestars
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LyleLanley
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While we're on the topic of Sterling, here's a fun quote from his deposition.
While we're on the topic of Sterling, here's a fun quote from his deposition.
This is the best thing ever!
cripterion
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Not so sure about that anymore.
theignoramus
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Sterling's old enough to remember when anti-semitism was pervasive in American society and associating with Jews was frowned on in the circles he associates and identifies with. Shame on him.
While we're on the topic of Sterling, here's a fun quote from his deposition.
lol wat
Smiles and Cries
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I think CNN said this man is worth 2 Billion
with that kind of money you can flip out about anything
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