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Donald Sterling (LA Clippers owner) banned for life from the NBA

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vas_a_morir said:
I'm talking about hypothetically moving forward. Not about what happened in the past. Just wondering how that situation will be handled moving forward. You get what I mean? Let's start fresh:

Let's say Spurs coach calls someone a 'faggot' in a privately recorded conversation. Banned for life?
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Unless explicitly stated in their code of conduct, this result does not lead to an "a + b = c" kind of punishment. The punishment, in this situation, was extreme because of the person's position and because what he said was extreme.

I'm sure if a coach called or referred to a specific group of players as faggot(s) and affixed negative attributes to those players or to LGBT persons, he would get one certain punishment.

And if another coach was loose-lipped when speaking with slurs, but mostly used them as form of slang, they'd get another punishment.
 
NeoROCK said:
What has he been banned from? Is he not allowed to go to his own games? He still owns the Clippers. I think the whole "BANNED FOR LIFE" thing was just to grab headlines and put out the fire this caused. To get people to forget about the whole thing and sweep it under the rug. But at the end of the day he's still the owner of the Clippers.

There isn't much the NBA can do if he doesn't want to sell the team.
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Yeah. The 2.5M fine does more to hurt him than the ban does. Instead of being at the game he'll just watch from his comfy couch and walk away with over a billion dollars.
 
I don't know why anyone cares about how much this punishes Sterling from his perspective. The NBA wanted him out; separated completely from them. They'll keep him away from everything and then force him to sell his team, severing every tie they possibly can. No one should give a shit if this makes Donald Sterling feel bad or good or makes him money.
 
CassidyIzABeast said:
Yeah. The 2.5M fine does more to hurt him than the ban does. Instead of being at the game he'll just watch from his comfy couch and walk away with over a billion dollars.
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No it doesn't. Being an owner and appearing on national TV sitting courtside are huge parts of the draw of owning a team. His ego fed on that. Now it's gone.
 
lenovox1 said:
Unless explicitly stated in their code of conduct, this is result does not lead to an "a + b = c" kind of punishment. The punishment, in this situation, was extreme because of the person's position and because what he said was extreme.

I'm sure if a coach called or referred to a specific group of players as faggot(s) and affixed negative attributes to those players or to LGBT persons, he would get one certain punishment.

And if another coach was loose-lipped when speaking with slurs, but mostly used them as form of slang, they'd get another punishment.
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Either way, glad he's gone. It will do wonders for the team, too. He's a trashy owner, and runs his teams like he runs his other businesses.
 
CassidyIzABeast said:
Yeah. The 2.5M fine does more to hurt him than the ban does. Instead of being at the game he'll just watch from his comfy couch and walk away with over a billion dollars.
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There are only 30 NBA teams. Don't think that being an NBA owner is an easy fraternity to break into. There are a lot of millionaires and billionaires out there that will be lining up now to take his place.

He'd probably give up 10 times that fine to make this thing go away.
 
CassidyIzABeast said:
Yeah. The 2.5M fine does more to hurt him than the ban does. Instead of being at the game he'll just watch from his comfy couch and walk away with over a billion dollars.
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Owning a sports team is not about money, it's about ego.

If it was about money, he'd have gladly sold by now because the ROI is insane and he's old.

A forced sale is a huge black eye for him and an embarrassment. He loses massive status. He's no longer one of the 30 cool kids on the block.
 
Excellent! The sooner these racist pricks are thoroughly discredited the better.

Went over to the Yahoo comments sections to see how they are coping, and as
expected: freedom of speech! where are his rights!? Obama ruined the country!
 
CassidyIzABeast said:
Yeah. The 2.5M fine does more to hurt him than the ban does. Instead of being at the game he'll just watch from his comfy couch and walk away with over a billion dollars.
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He is also banned from practices and personnel decisions. The GM can basically spend his money (even into luxury tax territory) as he sees fit--Sterling has been notoriously cheap in running the team and the former GM said he often interfered with personnel decisions. He also can't bring ladies into the locker room to stare at his players' bodies anymore.
 
NeoROCK said:
What has he been banned from? Is he not allowed to go to his own games? He still owns the Clippers. I think the whole "BANNED FOR LIFE" thing was just to grab headlines and put out the fire this caused. To get people to forget about the whole thing and sweep it under the rug. But at the end of the day he's still the owner of the Clippers.

There isn't much the NBA can do if he doesn't want to sell the team.
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So much wrong in this post. At least read the thread first since you have absolutely no idea what this ban means and what the other owners can do.
 
KHarvey16 said:
I don't know why anyone cares about how much this punishes Sterling from his perspective. The NBA wanted him out; separated completely from them. They'll keep him away from everything and then force him to sell his team, severing every tie they possibly can. No one should give a shit if this makes Donald Sterling feel bad or good or makes him money.
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538 did a good piece today explaining why this is so important for the league to get in front of. http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-clippers-like-many-nba-teams-have-a-majority-minority-fan-base/ Money graphic here- the NBA is vastly more popular among African-Americans relative to the general population (1.0) and really required them to make those fans comfortable that the league was looking out for their interests. (In addition to the obvious "right thing to do" rationale.)

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Sanjuro said:
Dodgers. McCourt.
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Was he actually forced to sell the team? I mean the Dodgers filed for bankruptcy, because of his stupid divorce he literally didn't have enough money to pay his players.

I think the situation forced him to sell more than the league.
 
kirblar said:
538 did a good piece today explaining why this is so important for the league to get in front of. http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-clippers-like-many-nba-teams-have-a-majority-minority-fan-base/ Money graphic here- the NBA is vastly more popular among African-Americans relative to the general population (1.0) and really required them to make those fans comfortable that the league was looking out for their interests. (In addition to the obvious "right thing to do" rationale.)

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That's exactly what the motivation is and should be - to make a statement to players, owners, fans and sponsors that the league won't accept this kind of thing. Not only is it morally right, in my opinion, but as you cite it also makes business sense because of that. How much it hurts Sterling is very far behind these things.
 
Amory said:
Was he actually forced to sell the team? I mean the Dodgers filed for bankruptcy, because of his stupid divorce he literally didn't have enough money to pay his players.

I think the situation forced him to sell more than the league.
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He was forced.

He was waiting on a television deal which would have saved his ass, but it didn't go through in time. His money was tied up in divorce court during that period.
 
CassidyIzABeast said:
Yeah. The 2.5M fine does more to hurt him than the ban does. Instead of being at the game he'll just watch from his comfy couch and walk away with over a billion dollars.
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A lot of pro sports teams have some tax shelter purposes as well. Depending on the situation they can be used to offset income the owner makes from other sources, lowering their overall tax burden. It's pretty complicated though and rules change a lot so I have no idea if the Clippers helped Sterling pay lower taxes. Cashing out their value after the sale should definitely increase his taxes, though.
 
The only thing that actually hurt him was his name being on this shit.

People will remember him as a racist prick and his wealth cant change that.
 
Radec said:
The only thing that actually hurt him was his name being on this shit.

People will remember him as a racist prick and his wealth cant change that.
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Why will he care though, he'll be dead. Maybe his kids might but then the money will just comfort them
 
KHarvey16 said:
They can absolutely bar him from going to games or league events and the other owners explicitly have the power to force him out with a vote.
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My guess is it will be pretty hard to force someone out when they OWN a team.

It will go to court and by the time a real decision is made, no one will care about this story anymore.
 
twinturbo2 said:
Whelp.

http://mediamatters.org/mobile/blog...builds-new-conspiracy-theory-around-cl/199068
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RUSH: Whoever set this up is really good. They covered every base. They've got the media wrapped around their little finger. I mean when you get rid of the anthem singer, I used to be in charge of anthem singers at the Kansas City Royals. When you can get rid of anthem singer, you've got power.
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I never cease to be amazed at how much conspiracy theories drive the right-wing base. They've got a conspiracy theory for everything. Rush was at one time alleging that environmentalists caused the Macando oil spill
 
NeoROCK said:
My guess is it will be pretty hard to force someone out when they OWN a team.

It will go to court and by the time a real decision is made, no one will care about this story anymore.
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It's in the contract he signed that he has to abide by the league agreement, which says a 3/4 vote by owners can get him to sell his team. Owners have been forced out before.
 
wienke said:
Conspiracy lol

I'm sure the commissioner and the other 29 owners thought long and hard about this....I have no doubt they were trying to find some sort of evidence to exonerate the guy. Clearly they found none and did what they had to do.
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Well all the "conspirators" had to do was get the ball rolling. The owners had to do what they would have to do to protect the leagues image. Whether or not you believe it was a conspiracy the way it all came to pass was definitely a set up.
 
CountAntonius said:
Well all the "conspirators" had to do was get the ball rolling. The owners had to do what they would have to do to protect the leagues image. Whether or not you believe it was a conspiracy the way it all came to pass was definitely a set up.
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It's such bad timing though. Nobody in the NBA would wish this during the playoffs. Off-season, perhaps.
 
CountAntonius said:
Well all the "conspirators" had to do was get the ball rolling. The owners had to do what they would have to do to protect the leagues image. Whether or not you believe it was a conspiracy the way it went about was definitely a set up.
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It wouldn't really take much set up Donald Sterling given his history, at some point he was inevitably going to do or say something incredibly racist.
 
NeoROCK said:
My guess is it will be pretty hard to force someone out when they OWN a team.

It will go to court and by the time a real decision is made, no one will care about this story anymore.
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Except he doesn't OWN it. He's franchising it from the league.

Storm Chamber said:
Exactly. The man is broken now.

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I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or sarcastically disagreeing, but money means nothing to someone that rich. If you're after money, you don't buy a sports team. There are much better (i.e. faster and easier) ways to make money.
 
orochi91 said:
Excellent! The sooner these racist pricks are thoroughly discredited the better.

Went over to the Yahoo comments sections to see how they are coping, and as
expected: freedom of speech! where are his rights!? Obama ruined the country!
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Lol the NBA is a private entity, your free-speech is not welcomed here silly Yahooligans
 
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