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Amplitude (Harmonix) PS3/PS4 - KS (Funded, final day)
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demosthenes
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I have no doubts that it will. Already 117k.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Was thinking the same thing..although they are asking for $7500 for anyone to put in their original music
Dead Prince
Banned
I'm sure they can just contact Harmonix directly
Coming from a company that got a really large windfall recently, I hope this fails.
I've been a huge fan of HMX with the RB series, but I'm not funding something they could easily fund themselves. They just don't want to put any of their own money into it. Sorry but if you don't have enough faith to put some of your own money into the game, neither do I.
I've been a huge fan of HMX with the RB series, but I'm not funding something they could easily fund themselves. They just don't want to put any of their own money into it. Sorry but if you don't have enough faith to put some of your own money into the game, neither do I.
Mikey Jr.
Member
That makes no sense......
Why would you purposefully put your kickstarter at a disadvantage?
Could they not really spare 12 more days?
Why didn't they put this up 12 days earlier?
Really weird.
RyanPierre
Member
They are putting some of their own money into it if the Kickstarter succeeds. The Kickstarter is not funding the whole thing.
Bah, Frequency/Amplitude on hard/insane weren't that hard
compared to 12 star songs in IIDX. :V
I kind of want to see them do what Konami does with the Beatmania games now: find some relatively obscure musicians that fit the game's demographic and commission songs from them that Harmonix would then own outright. It seems like it would be cheaper than licensing songs and it's a hell of a lot easier to deal with legally.
Now watch as something from Prim shows up in Amplitude and I start peeling the skin from my body...
chrominance
Member
I believe they stated on the Twitch livestream that they ARE putting in their own money, to the tune of about a million bucks, if they see there's enough demand via the Kickstarter. But they don't want to blow a million plus and then discover no one really cares about an Amplitude HD.
hodayathink
Member
They said that if the game gets funded, they're putting half a million of their own money into it. This isn't the entire cost of developing the game.
They wanted to do it at PAX, but legal issues prevented it. And more than likely, it's because Fantasia is going to start winding down development somewhere around then, and if the Kickstarter ends after that, they're looking at having some of the people that they would have working on the game sitting around because they wouldn't know whether they'd get to work on this or if they should lay them off/assign them to a different project.
That might be the achilles heel though. If it does get funded, likely Sony music will handle the music rights.
Its not, for whatever reason that poster missed the most important part. A lot of artists and other asset creators are "rolling over" ( I assume this means leaving or going toother projects) because Fantasia is wrapping up. They are doing this around some sort of deadline in the next few weeks, unless they are given additional work. They wanted to announce the kickstarter earlier, but some paperwork wasnt officially signed yet (basically Sony giving their legal blessing without funding) so they couldnt.
NintendoRev
Member
Backed. Hopefully Kasson Crooker (the man behind Symbion Project, a third of Freezepop, and alot of the original tracks in Amplitude/Frequency) are contributing work to the game.
cj_iwakura
Member
Hell, they should go AFTER the IIDX composers. Imagine TaQ in Freq. My god.
cj_iwakura
Member
Man was he a bummer to meet in person. I had them sign my copies of the games, and I asked him about his Symbion work, and he said 'it's just game music'.
R_thanatos
Member
damn , my first harmonix game was rock band on psp and i loved it .. I want to back this project ... i want to back this project so HARD...
RyanPierre
Member
What makes you think that is likely? If they're not involved in funding the game, I can't fathom them wanting to invest their resources doing music licensing for it when Harmonix is perfectly capable.
Well, he's not wrong.
It's just really good game music.If they want to punish Sony for refusing to make a deal, they have an odd way of showing it.
Harmonix still has money in the bank from all those plastic guitars they sold us, so I'm gonna take my money and spend it on groceries or something instead of this. I'd be happy to buy the game if they end up making it, though.
Harmonix still has money in the bank from all those plastic guitars they sold us, so I'm gonna take my money and spend it on groceries or something instead of this. I'd be happy to buy the game if they end up making it, though.
cj_iwakura
Member
Well, he's not wrong.
Was still disheartening to have him belittle his work like that when I spent years idolizing it. I saw it as EDM.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
All of that is wrong^ See here:
John T Drake explains it quite well on the Twitch stream about the 775K/18 days/Sony/why not PC/licensed music/etc from here:
http://www.twitch.tv/harmonixmusic/b/526182100?t=60m47s
to here:
http://www.twitch.tv/harmonixmusic/b/526182100?t=74m24s
Smashing those queries.
RyanPierre
Member
What are you talking about? You mean punish Sony for refusing to fund the game?
I don't think anyone is going to argue that they're poor exactly. But this is why they'd rather not waste a full $2 million on remaking a game that originally didn't sell well and perhaps nobody is going to want. $750k Kickstarter to gauge interest and over $1 million in self-funding if the Kickstarter succeeds doesn't strike me as outrageous for a niche title that is very difficult to estimate perceived consumer interest in. Most of the backers are really just pre-ordering anyway (1,000 of them at a $5 discount) and will simply get their money back if the Kickstarter fails.
Yeah, I get what you mean. I've heard a lot of his music though, and I can understand him placing more value on his other work that wasn't designed for a game.
PSYGN
Member
I am surprised that many people here know about the game; I really hope they make this! None of my friends knew about the game. I first played Frequency through the OPM Magazine my dad subscribed for us. I was hooked and it was the first demo where I pretty much went out with what's left of my pocket change and bought the full game (whereas I usually and shamelessly waited until my birthday or xmas for my parents to buy it).
None of my friends knew about the game. I first played Frequency through the OPM Magazine my dad subscribed for us. I was hooked and it was the first demo where I pretty much went out with what's left of my pocket change and bought the full game (whereas I usually and shamelessly waited until my birthday or xmas for my parents to buy it).True but again, I think this Harmonix showing Sony if the fans want a new game, Sony will respond.
UnluckyKate
Member
Sony can't back this is it's failing : people
Would be charged and that would be against kickstarter rules.
Unless Yosp back the thousand bucks missing by himself as Private backing
Would be charged and that would be against kickstarter rules.
Unless Yosp back the thousand bucks missing by himself as Private backing
what? how would that be against the rules? if its failing... and sony fronts the remainder amount on day 18, how is that bad? yeah people will be charged, because the game made its goal, and thats the entire point. i dont see the problem here.
I will wait on this for more info, especially about the possible Vita version, but it would be an easy parting of $20 for me. Seems like they will make the target as it is off to a decent start at the moment.
The game needs to have Freezepop in it.
However, I want the Octagon back, the playing field with the 'looping' Octagon was miles better than the flat Amplitude playing field, for planning routes and high score runs.
The game needs to have Freezepop in it.
However, I want the Octagon back, the playing field with the 'looping' Octagon was miles better than the flat Amplitude playing field, for planning routes and high score runs.
cj_iwakura
Member
Amplitude is nothing like a shmup.
I guess your ship is shooting at the notes, so from a certain point of view?
jackissocool
Member
It's doing pretty damn well right now.
I don't back often, but I'm backing this. I had plenty of fun with Frequency and Amplitude as a kid(got Frequency as a birthday gift not knowing what the hell it was). I was addicted to that damn thing, and making your own remixes was so fun. Amplitude was basically a better version.
Mikey Jr.
Member
Best of luck to them.
In my mind, I saw 120k and 18 days left, so I thought "Man, 12 days have passed and they only got 120k. This doesn't look good".
But then I saw that this is literally day 1, and 120k is pretty fucking great.
Really too bad they couldn't get the extra 12 days. Would love to have seen what stretch goals they planned out.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Was that your last rhythm game? Calibration gives potentially perfect results with this sort of game.
Lag doesn't need to be an issue at all when you know ahead of time what input you're expecting from the player. (unless there's controller-related lag as in Rocksmith)
Rock Band 2 and Rock Band 3 even had auto-calibration using a tiny camera and mic in conjunction with an animated test pattern and test tones.
Why?
HMX has tons of experience licensing music. They've even gone to the trouble of renewing licenses for Rock Band DLC as they near expiration.
They explained pretty well during the twitch stream why they need the money. If they don't meet the goal they're not making the game.
Anyone else annoyed that the $15 pledge was only valid for the first 1000 people? That's less than 2% of the total kickstarter amount. It was gone after less than 24 hours from the kickstarter start.
Seriously, you want us to wait for a year, and you price the kickstarter at $20 for an HD remake. Really? That's the expected retail price(!!!), as many have pointed out.
Dear Harmonix: I've bought most of your games and this feels like a slap to the face. I hope I'm not the only one feeling that way.
Seriously, you want us to wait for a year, and you price the kickstarter at $20 for an HD remake. Really? That's the expected retail price(!!!), as many have pointed out.
Dear Harmonix: I've bought most of your games and this feels like a slap to the face. I hope I'm not the only one feeling that way.
JustinBbad
Member
Dont think it works like that.
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What's exactly the problem with charging the expected retail price(!!!) ?
It's not an HD remake, by the way.
we'll see, but 20 dollars is completely reasonable for an hd remake imo.
How do you know that's the expected retail price? For all we know they could choose to price it at $25/$30/$40. I did not see anything from them in regards to the retail price if they get the funding.
Dead Prince
Banned
Game was probably going to be $20 if launched. You would probably get the discount back from PS+. If you can't swallow the price wait until a sale
finally, it's been a long held dream of mine to fund the production of an exclusive sony held IP from my own pocket. i'd have settled for a stretch goal which ensures no xbox version.
good to see shu and boyes retweeting this too. really shows their commitment to the IP's future.
good to see shu and boyes retweeting this too. really shows their commitment to the IP's future.
HiddenWings
Member
I think he's still the audio director at Harmonix, so I can't image he wouldn't. He's not with Freezepop anymore, but they had to get two people to replace him, which might say something.