I guess we'll find out in 17 days whether the PC audience are needed or not.
Amplitude (Harmonix) PS3/PS4 - KS (Funded, final day)
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I guess we'll find out in 17 days whether the PC audience are needed or not.
Over $110k at the moment. I wonder where it'll be tomorrow afternoon when it's been a full day.
For anyone who wants the game but not pledging: consider the potion to pledge $20 and get PS3/PS4 versions of the game. It's basically preordering, assuming Harmonix doesn't somehow deliver a cruddy game.
For anyone who wants the game but not pledging: consider the potion to pledge $20 and get PS3/PS4 versions of the game. It's basically preordering, assuming Harmonix doesn't somehow deliver a cruddy game.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
It's a little different with kickstarters with huge goals like this. Here, ending up failing with 40-60% funding is a definite possibility. The big problem is that when you have a huge goal like $775k, running out of steam before you reach the all-important halfway point is a real possibility.
For a big kickstarter, you really want to see 25%-35% of the total goal reached in the first 24 hours. That would be $194k-$271k which while not impossible, seems unlikely seeing how much it's slowed down already.
cj_iwakura
Member
CZ and SP are the same guy, by the by. Kasson Crooker, also a member of Freezepop.
I think it's a product of wanting to have this decided before E3 or not.
I'm wondering though, what would the concern be?
Frequency 2 announced at E3.
RyanPierre
Member
*former member of Freezepop
Nothing to do with E3, it has to do with their production line-up, ie. moving employees between projects. They explained this on their livestream.
The pledge slow down, Don't they normally plateau after the 1st 3 days?
HORRORSHØW
Member
so, what happens if you back the kickstarter but it fails to reach its goal? refund?
Grimløck;110745022 said:
You don't get charged in the first place.
Hmm. Makes you wonder why they went with 18 days.
Dead Prince
Banned
Grimløck;110745022 said:
Nothing gets charged unless it gets funded. if it does you'll get charged the day it ends.
HORRORSHØW
Member
nice. in for $20.
Bluekaveli
Member
I remember this game. Amazing.
cj_iwakura
Member
Just out of curiosity, has anyone else here suffered through both games on expert? Have you seen hell?
Also, most my favorite tracks in Frequency/Amplitude were licensed. BT's Kimosabe, Styles of Beyond's Subculture, Quarashi's Bassline, Frequency(by Fear Factory), Juno Reactor's Higher Ground(GODLIKE), Nitro Narcosis, hell even the Slipknot track.
Also, most my favorite tracks in Frequency/Amplitude were licensed. BT's Kimosabe, Styles of Beyond's Subculture, Quarashi's Bassline, Frequency(by Fear Factory), Juno Reactor's Higher Ground(GODLIKE), Nitro Narcosis, hell even the Slipknot track.
Messofanego
Banned
John T Drake explains it quite well on the Twitch stream about the 775K/18 days/Sony/why not PC/licensed music/etc from here:
http://www.twitch.tv/harmonixmusic/b/526182100?t=60m47s
to here:
http://www.twitch.tv/harmonixmusic/b/526182100?t=74m24s
Smashing those queries.
http://www.twitch.tv/harmonixmusic/b/526182100?t=60m47s
to here:
http://www.twitch.tv/harmonixmusic/b/526182100?t=74m24s
Smashing those queries.
RyanPierre
Member
Yeah, I played on Insane, it was the most fun I've ever had with a rhythm game before Guitar Hero and Rock Band came along.
The licensed tracks were great (BT especially), but I loved the in-house tracks just as much.
cj_iwakura
Member
John T Drake explains it quite well on the Twitch stream about the 775K/18 days/Sony/why not PC/licensed music/etc from here:
http://www.twitch.tv/harmonixmusic/b/526182100?t=60m47s
to here:
http://www.twitch.tv/harmonixmusic/b/526182100?t=74m24s
Smashing those queries.
Heh, I asked their staff about Freq/Amp at a PAX a few years back. They were like 'sure, we'd like to at some point, but we don't own it'.
cj_iwakura
Member
Oh, I agree. Freq Out, Cool Baby, Robot Rockers, all amazing. But I love having the variety.
I loved playing Amp blind, and seeing the surprise bosses. My jaw dropped when I saw Slipknot.
Shades of Blue was great, too.
Neuromancer
Member
It makes sense to me that the sequel to an exclusive Playstation franchise would be on Playstation platforms.
Vita is a glaring omission, though; I have a feeling they're holding that announcement back for when they need a second wind.
Vita is a glaring omission, though; I have a feeling they're holding that announcement back for when they need a second wind.
cj_iwakura
Member
Why not call it Wavelength and make it a spiritual successor?
Yeah, I can see that. They haven't mentioned remote play, which plays into your theory (build up Vita demand) but that could be due to input lag criticism.
That's what I was wondering, wouldn't help the numbers or those Sony somehow have the trademark of something looking like Amplitude?
Sony owns some of the key elements of the gameplay for Frequency and Amplitude, which is why Harmonix's other attempts at making similar games feel less involved, as they legally can't do as much with them.
cj_iwakura
Member
RB Unplugged wasn't too different, if much easier(and without the electronica which, well, defines the games).
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Better than Audiosurf in pretty much everything else besides the fact that you get to use your own music.
Not knocking Audiosurf though (which I love), it definitely got a lot of its influence from Harmonix's series
Vita is mentioned as a stretch goal, but thats IF the game meets its minimum goal.
Yes, the short duration is not going to do them any favors. There's already a few things lined up against it - limited platforms, big goal - and having to raise money without the benefit of a monthlong campaign might be the difference between successful funding and coming up short.
Read the reasons why and I can sympathize with red tape and wanting to get project staffing and E3 plans in order, but not having this Kickstarter ready to launch by PAX or whenever it would have to go live to take advantage of the full timeframe seems like a mistake.
chrominance
Member
I'm on the fence. I don't have any fond memories of Amplitude or Frequency because I largely missed out on the PS2 generation. I do have a vague interest in Rock Band Blitz, so it's not crazy to think I would like the new Amplitude, but the game's appeal to me will also heavily depend on the song list and we literally have no idea what's on it besides a vague sense based on the tracklist of earlier games. And somehow I doubt they're going to make Blink 182-esque tracks for this game. I know they aren't going to have any music to show off until they actually start on the project, but even some idea of what genres they're focusing on would be helpful. If you told me the idea was basically to put in a bunch of tracks like Orbital's "Funny Break," I would be on board.
Also, between some of the issues they dealt with in the Twitch stream and the PAX East panel they had in 2013 about Rock Band licensing, I feel sometimes like Harmonix is less a game developer and more a law firm that specializes in arcane game contractual issues.
Also, between some of the issues they dealt with in the Twitch stream and the PAX East panel they had in 2013 about Rock Band licensing, I feel sometimes like Harmonix is less a game developer and more a law firm that specializes in arcane game contractual issues.
The Vita version is a stretched goal.
I have a feeling Sony might fund however much is left.
RyanPierre
Member
I'm assuming it's something they considered (and pretty much already did with Rock Band Blitz and the handheld Rock Band games). But I think they just feel really passionate about Amplitude and want to finally revisit it without worrying about skirting a bunch of potential IP concerns. There's a lot of great features in Amplitude that haven't resurfaced in their other lane-switching games, and I wonder if it's worries about infringement that have held those other games back.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
A lot of the questions are mentioned in the Kickstarter, hopefully the OP updates it:
Aren’t Kickstarter campaigns usually 30 days? Why is this one only 18?
"Our campaign end date was chosen based on a need to assign developers to projects shortly after the end of this Kickstarter.
Our Kickstarter will allow us to secure Amplitude development resources here at Harmonix that otherwise will be assigned elsewhere. That’s an important date we’re working with! We hope that backers get behind the project in the window we have!"
I hope so.
my first kickstarter too.
iceatcs
Junior Member
Kickstarter don't take the money yet. Only took the money if success at the end.
shaunLEGEND
Member
I agree. I backed because I love the series and I feel like this is how much the game will cost at release anyways.
These will be the longest end credits in history if all goes according to their plan lol.
chrominance
Member
Something else that occurred to me: if I had to pick, I think I'd rather have a Harmonix coming to me and telling me "listen, we want to make this game, here's how much we think it will cost and here are the reasons why the project has these limitations" versus, say, Bandai Namco telling us to "show enthusiasm!" in exchange for a vague promise of more Tales games. And I say that despite the fact that "show enthusiasm!" actually worked to bring Tales games to North America.
jackissocool
Member
Seems like it's got a pretty good chance of making it. I'm backing at 20 tomorrow and maybe upping it to 40 in a week or two.
