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[MaximumSpider]

Weird, I recall stuff like evolutions being "blocked" pre-Sevii.

Yup, Pokemon like Golbat couldn't evolve if you didn't have a National Pokedex.

 

[Berordn]

Weird, I recall stuff like evolutions being "blocked" pre-Sevii.

Evolutions were restricted and berries were very, very limited until post-Cinnabar (and then the selection was awful).

 

[Mr-Joker]

I'd like to see the following get megas, and also to prove that megas can be awesome if given to mons that deserve it;

Flygon
Altaria
Sceptile/Swampert
Plusle/Minun
Cradily
Armaldo
Torkoal
Camerupt
Cacturne
Castform (for the love of all that is great, this needs to happen)
Grumpig
Chimecho

Megas for these would help them to be competitively viable without necessarily being broken.

No more new Mega please.

Weird, I recall stuff like evolutions being "blocked" pre-Sevii.

Gen 1 Pokémon that got an evolution in gen 2 were blocked pre-game and had to be unlock post game.

 

[lewisgone]

Weird, I recall stuff like evolutions being "blocked" pre-Sevii.

Evolutions like Crobat were blocked, but you could pick up stuff like berries around Kanto (dark patches on the ground).

I would imagine though that these remakes will be more like HGSS, where evolutions like Lickilicky or whatever can be gotten before the Elite 4. These remakes will likely be highly compatible with X/Y. I don't think Game Freak are ever going to do a situation where you "unlock" connectivity to another game in the same generation again. It was certainly a pain in FRLG.

 

[Beelzebufo]

Then debuff the evolutions. I mean Mega Evolutions shouldn't exist and those are plausible should get regular evolutions in general.

You're being unreasonable, you sound like a child. Again, Mega Evolutions add a lot to gameplay while avoiding all of the complications that come with straight evolutions. They also give players a reason to care about older Pokemon again.

 

[DragonKnight]

You're being unreasonable, you sound like a child. Again, Mega Evolutions add a lot to gameplay while avoiding all of the complications that come with straight evolutions. They also give players a reason to care about older Pokemon again.

My biggest issues with megas are their designs. I find them very busy and just not good looking.

Honestly: gamefreak could have just re distributed and boosted stats if they really wanted to without going the mega route.

 

[ArchedThunder]

No more new Mega please.

Megas are here to stay.

 

[DragonKnight]

Megas are here to stay.

Not confirmed...yet.

 

[Thequietone]

My biggest issue with mega evolutions is no pokedex entries.

 

[Thorakai]

Not confirmed...yet.

wut. They aren't going to take out such a big feature and selling point used for Pokemon X and Y. Megas are now permanently a part of Pokemon like abilities and natures.

 

[Beelzebufo]

My biggest issues with megas are their designs. I find them very busy and just not good looking.

I mean that's much more reasonable, but (like Pokemon in general) you have a decent amount of variation. While ones like Aerodactyl and Tyranitar are how you described, there are simpler looking ones like Manectric, Blastoise, Kanghaskhan, and Alakazam. I'd argue that even some of the busier looking ones are improvements over the originals, like Gyarados, Mawile, and Garchomp.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Not confirmed...yet.

They might not add new Megas mid gen, but after the big deal they made about them in XY there is no way they don't become a regular addition every gen.

 

[Forkball]

Megas will obviously be a staple in Pokemon from this point on. They haven't cut out any major gameplay feature regarding battling. They still keep all the trade evolutions in tact (it must be annoying to go through the big list of trade evo items and figure out where to put them in the game). It is going to be a bit tricky on how ORAS/XY communication works, especially since it should be easy with Pokemon Bank. I don't want to be forced to move all my Pokemon into ORAS, I'm almost done catching them all in X!

 

[NTom64]

I believe it's around 6pm EST. Maybe 6:30?

So around 11.30pm GMT. Not bad, not bad.

 

[DragonKnight]

wut. They aren't going to take out such a big feature and selling point used for Pokemon X and Y. Megas are now permanently a part of Pokemon like abilities and natures.

Still holding on to hope.

I just dont get why they just didnt redistribute stats. Maybe because that wouldnt sound impressive on a box.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Still holding on to hope.

I also hope that humans will suddenly lose the need for oxygen. Not all hopes are based in reality.

I just dont get why they just didnt redistribute stats. Maybe because that wouldnt sound impressive on a box.

The point of Mega Evos is that you only gen one and you get no item. Just giving those stats to the Pokemon normally would be an explosive power "creep".

 

[DragonKnight]

I also hope that humans will suddenly lose the need for oxygen. Not all hopes are based in reality.

Guess we will find out in a few hours. On both fronts.

 

[Forkball]

Still holding on to hope.

I just dont get why they just didnt redistribute stats. Maybe because that wouldnt sound impressive on a box.

Mega Evos go far beyond stats. Some have new abilities which drastically changes how they play. Redistributing stats doesn't work since you can upload Pokemon all the way from the original RSE into X (my decade old Sceptile looks nice in 3D). Not to mention a mega stone is using up an item slot, another battle feature that can make or break a Pokemon. I was anti-Mega before XY came out and was proven wrong. They provide an interesting strategy and promote the use of Pokemon long forgotten. I heart my Mega Venusaur, he is the backbone of my team and he's crushed fools.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Guess we will find out in a few hours. On both fronts.

Not really, there is no need to show off any Megas in the first gameplay showing. Hell, we'll probably get a player running around one area early in the game and maybe a random encounter.

I heart my Mega Venusaur, he is the backbone of my team and he's crushed fools.

Mega Venusaur is GOD.

 

[Hindl]

Why do you people continue to ignore Zangoose He needs a mega badly

He just needs a regular evo. That's one problem I have with megas. They give it to pokemon who need it like absol and mawile, but then give it to lucario and blaziken too. If these guys just got straight evos with stat boosts that were toned down it would be much better.

I wanted to use absol so badly but there wasn't room on my team for two megas.

EDIT: but the post above proves megas do have a place. Mega venusaur was perfect and so dominant

 

[MicH]

He just needs a regular evo. That's one problem I have with megas. They give it to pokemon who need it like absol and mawile, but then give it to lucario and blaziken too. If these guys just got straight evos with stat boosts that were toned down it would be much better.

I wanted to use absol so badly but there wasn't room on my team for two megas

I agree, I would much rather have him get a regular evolution, but he has been ignored for three generations now Regular or evolution or mega, I just want him to get something at this point

 

[DragonKnight]

Mega Evos go far beyond stats. Some have new abilities which drastically changes how they play. Redistributing stats doesn't work since you can upload Pokemon all the way from the original RSE into X (my decade old Sceptile looks nice in 3D). Not to mention a mega stone is using up an item slot, another battle feature that can make or break a Pokemon. I was anti-Mega before XY came out and was proven wrong. They provide an interesting strategy and promote the use of Pokemon long forgotten. I heart my Mega Venusaur, he is the backbone of my team and he's crushed fools.

Could have just added new hidden abilites and the stat thing is irrelevant. Stats were changed from rby to gsc and from bw to gen vi and that worked just fine. The only real strategic purpose is the omission of an item slot in exchange for power. But why not just make useless pokes useful in the first place?

And as i stated before they just look off. Only a small few look like natural extensions of the pokemon before them. Too many megas have a few too many bells and whistles going on.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Could have just added new hidden abilites and the stat thing is irrelevant. Stats were changed from rby to gsc and from bw to gen vi and that worked just fine. The only real strategic purpose is the omission of an item slot in exchange for power. But why not just make useless pokes useful in the first place?

And as i stated before they just look off. Only a small few look like natural extensions of the pokemon before them. Too many megas have a few too many bells and whistles going on.

That's different, the first stat change was just to split one stat into two and the stat changes from gen V to VI where just 10 points, not 100.

 

[NeonZ]

Those are the outlines of the Blue and Red orbs or at least the ones from the anime.

They aren't. The outlines of the orbs are the same as the lines that are usually in Kyogre's and Groudon's bodies, only shinning. The lines in the new covers have completely different designs in some areas, and also different colors. So, they're, at least, new forms.

Compare the new designs:

With the Blue Orb's marks:
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/8/8f/Blue_Orb_activated.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/0/0b/Blue_Orb_possession.png

The lines' shape and color don't match. These are at least new formes, and likely Megas, since they look more like power ups than just sideway changes.

(legendaries and starters SHOULD NOT HAVE ANOTHER EVOLUTION)

I always wanted to see starters getting Evos that put them on legendary level, and I guess Megas are the closest we're getting to that... although I really disliked how they didn't give Megas to X/Y's starters.

 

[Forkball]

Could have just added new hidden abilites and the stat thing is irrelevant. Stats were changed from rby to gsc and from bw to gen vi and that worked just fine. The only real strategic purpose is the omission of an item slot in exchange for power. But why not just make useless pokes useful in the first place?

And as i stated before they just look off. Only a small few look like natural extensions of the pokemon before them. Too many megas have a few too many bells and whistles going on.

If you just make them hidden abilities then you lose balance since they could have hidden abilities AND a hold item. Most of the mega abilities are absurdly beneficial, and to put that on top of a hold item would be unfair. For example, take Mega Gengar. He gets a new ability and boosted stats in Mega form. However, he loses an already good ability and a hold item. Which do you pick: the mega or non-mega? It's a strategic choice players have to make. I personally have a non-Mega Gengar on my team because I want him to do something special that MG can't do. Like I said before, a lot of Pokemon became useful in new ways not just because numbers went up, but because of new abilities (and yes, sometimes because of the numbers). I do agree that a lot of Megas look pretty ridiculous though.

 

[Qurupeke]

I was pretty sure they were Megas, but I have doubts now... Well, an Omega/Alpha form of them because of the Orbs is more possible. Maybe the Orbs are Held items and they change to them when they hold them, allowing them to have permanent Drought/Drizzle.

 

[DR2K]

Hopefully they add 3d without going to 2fps.

 

[Drago]

The only Megas I think we really need are ones for Sceptile and Swampert. It would be kinda bullshit if only one of the three starters you can choose could Mega Evolve, yeah? :/

Then again, maybe you won't even be able to get Blazikenite in the game and it remains exclusive to those who got it during the XY event. But I kinda doubt that happens

 

[Firestorm]

VGC is really balanced if you love Garchomp, Rotom-W, Kangaskhan, and Talonflame.

or Raichu, or Blastoise, or Wigglytuff, or any of the other Pokemon on that list.

or Vivillon, or Gengar, or Mega Gyarados, or...

The format gives you a lot of options. Mega Kang is obviously the strongest Pokemon in the game, but you're an idiot if you think there are no teambuilding options available. This is a competitive game and players will gravitate towards the best. That's what playing competitively means: playing to win. Most teams will use a handful of the strongest Pokemon with a few techs for the metagame that are often from a pool of less common Pokemon. Sometimes people who are better at making metagame calls go full anti-meta.

 

[User 73706]

or Raichu, or Blastoise, or Wigglytuff, or any of the other Pokemon on that list.

or Vivillon, or Gengar, or Mega Gyarados, or...

The format gives you a lot of options. Mega Kang is obviously the strongest Pokemon in the game, but you're an idiot if you think there are no teambuilding options available. This is a competitive game and players will gravitate towards the best. That's what playing competitively means: playing to win. Most teams will use a handful of the strongest Pokemon with a few techs for the metagame that are often from a pool of less common Pokemon. Sometimes people who are better at making metagame calls go full anti-meta.

I love anti-meta teams.

 

[HawthorneKitty]

Needs Mega Gallade

 

[MegaMelon]

Why do you people continue to ignore Zangoose He needs a mega badly

My bad aha, I only listed the few that came to mind.

 

[Riposte]

Does every competitive team use megas?

Seviper needs more than Zangoose does, no?

 

[Berordn]

The one question we really need to ask regarding Mega Evolutions in these games is "Are any Gen 3 megas being featured in the next movie?"

Yes, yes they are.

 

[MegaMelon]

No more new Mega please.

Without megas, the solution would be evos, which would be probelmatic for already twice evolved mons like Flygon. Megas give these mons a new lease on life, and you don't need to use them if you don't want to.

 

[Wensih]

I would hope new Megas are revealed. It's the closet thing to new pokemon we would get for remakes.

 

[Wichu]

or Raichu, or Blastoise, or Wigglytuff, or any of the other Pokemon on that list.

or Vivillon, or Gengar, or Mega Gyarados, or...

The format gives you a lot of options. Mega Kang is obviously the strongest Pokemon in the game, but you're an idiot if you think there are no teambuilding options available. This is a competitive game and players will gravitate towards the best. That's what playing competitively means: playing to win. Most teams will use a handful of the strongest Pokemon with a few techs for the metagame that are often from a pool of less common Pokemon. Sometimes people who are better at making metagame calls go full anti-meta.

Dat Raichu/Vivillon combo. <3 VGC

 

[WrenchNinja]

Does every competitive team use megas?

Seviper needs more than Zangoose does, no?

They should both get megas since their lore is connected. Wouldn't be fair.

 

[Firestorm]

There's even a Jumpluff on the team that's on stream right now lol: http://www.twitch.tv/nuggetbridge

 

[The12thGripper]

You're being unreasonable, you sound like a child.

Are you trying to make me laugh or something? I don't understand your point. I can have my opinion and you can have yours.

 

[PreyingShark]

or Raichu, or Blastoise, or Wigglytuff, or any of the other Pokemon on that list.

or Vivillon, or Gengar, or Mega Gyarados, or...

The format gives you a lot of options. Mega Kang is obviously the strongest Pokemon in the game, but you're an idiot if you think there are no teambuilding options available. This is a competitive game and players will gravitate towards the best. That's what playing competitively means: playing to win. Most teams will use a handful of the strongest Pokemon with a few techs for the metagame that are often from a pool of less common Pokemon. Sometimes people who are better at making metagame calls go full anti-meta.

Oh right, gotta prepare my Umbreon/Houndoom/Talonflame/Garchomp/Azumarill/Aegislash team for the Premiere Challenge.

And I have actual reasons for the Umbreon and M-Houndoom, too. >_>

 

[Wyndstryker]

Spinda means billions of different forms lol. Though I'm guessing if such a ball ever existed, they'd ignore Spinda.

I'd say go with it lol.

There are people crazy enough to try.

 

[Toxi]

I mean that's much more reasonable, but (like Pokemon in general) you have a decent amount of variation. While ones like Aerodactyl and Tyranitar are how you described, there are simpler looking ones like Manectric, Blastoise, Kanghaskhan, and Alakazam. I'd argue that even some of the busier looking ones are improvements over the originals, like Gyarados, Mawile, and Garchomp.

Mega Tyranitar's design is an homage to Space Godzilla, just like normal Tyranitar references Kaiju in general.

Those are the outlines of the Blue and Red orbs or at least the ones from the anime.

They're not the outlines in the anime. First, the anime outlines are red for the red orb and blue for the blue orb. Second, the anime patterns were basically just their normal patterns, while the remake patterns have completely new features (check out the omega symbol on Groudon's arm). Third, there are differences outside the glowy lines, like the transparent parts on Kyogre's fin and the black teeth and spikes on Groudon.

Flygon already has a Mega, it's called Salamence

Surely you mean Garchomp.

 

[WhyMe6]

XY has the best mechanics to date, unless you meant one player experience.

Ah, definitely the one player experience. It's ridiculously mediocre this time around, with numerous poor design choices. Yes, the mechanics are brilliant and definitely the best to date, particularly the ease of competitive team building...I should have clarified that! >.<

 

[DNAbro]

First pictures are up on Serebii. well i use the term picture loosely. I offscreen shot of the opening.

So I stand by my statement that first trailer will be at E3.

EDIT: and then Nintendo officially releases it lol

 

[Boss Doggie]

Mega Tyranitar's design is an homage to Space Godzilla, just like normal Tyranitar references Kaiju in general.

Don't forget it was announced with Mega Aggron aka MechaGodzilla.

 

[Skyfireblaze]

I just had another idea regarding patching X and Y regarding new Mega Evolutions. Maybe, just maybe, we all saw it way to complicated? As far as I know X and Y writes atleast something on the SD card while you save right? What if they coded X and Y in a way where additional Pokémon data can be just "plugged in"?

Lets say I trade my (Mega) Kyogre back to X, maybe OR/AS could just sent the relevant data-files along the trade to the receiving 3DS?

I know I probably spent waaay too much thought and energy on this issue aslong as we aren't even sure if we get new Mega Evolutions but I just like to think about technical issues and how to solve them

 

[Dongs Macabre]

I wonder how they'll implement Mega Evolutions into the game. I doubt they would make people have to find the Mega Stones from XY. Perhaps they won't be in the game unless you trade them to it? Or perhaps they'll be purchasable. I think they should add the ability to trade items or at least Mega Stones between XY and ORAS in Pokebank, though. It would makes things so much easier.

 

[PreyingShark]

I just had another idea regarding patching X and Y regarding new Mega Evolutions. Maybe, just maybe, we all saw it way to complicated? As far as I know X and Y writes atleast something on the SD card while you save right? What if they coded X and Y in a way where additional Pokémon data can be just "plugged in"?

Lets say I trade my (Mega) Kyogre back to X, maybe OR/AS could just sent the relevant data-files along the trade to the receiving 3DS?

I know I probably spent waaay too much thought and energy on this issue aslong as we aren't even sure if we get new Mega Evolutions but I just like to think about technical issues and how to solve them

The save data is on the cart. However, even the physical version of the game requires an SD card to play. So yes, that is possible I suppose.

Though alternatively they can just do some compatibility patch shenanigans and have people who aren't compatible not show up on the PSS and so on.

 

[Xenex]

When I came into this thread I initially thought it was too soon for a Ruby/Sapphire remake. I looked up when the originals were released (2002 JP, 2003 EE) and now I'm soo friggin depressed, how the f--k a decade passed so fast is beyond me.