Wkd Box Office 05•9-11•14 - Spider squished stateside as new Neighbors move in

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74% Neighbors
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54% The Amazing Spider-Man 2
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24% The Other Woman (2014)
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49% Heaven is for Real
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89% Captain America: The Winter Soldier
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14% Moms' Night Out
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17% Legends of Oz: Dorothy's Return

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‘Neighbors’ Collects $51.1 Mil, Unseats ‘Spider-Man’ in Box Office Shake-Up. Sony superhero tentpole amasses north of $550 million worldwide

King of the keg-stand this weekend, Universal’s R-rated frat comedy “Neighbors,” with its estimated boffo $51.1 million opening, interrupted the Stateside reign of “The Amazing Spider-Man 2,” which fell a steeper-than-expected 59% in its second frame for a projected $37.2 million through Sunday.

The Sony superhero tentpole — which did, however, hold onto the overseas weekend crown, with its estimated $69.5 million — reached a total $550 million worldwide, of which more than $400 million comes from international markets.

“Ultimately, (the domestic drop) was within the realm of a picture of this size,” said Sony worldwide distribution chief Rory Bruer.

That said, “Spider-Man” suffered from the mega-buzz building around “Neighbors” for the past several weeks. The Seth Rogen-Zac Efron comedy ultimately played best with women, at 53%, though men accounted for a respectable 47% of the opening.

Universal prexy of domestic distribution Nikki Rocco said she is estimating a 30% drop from Friday to Sunday, but that could be better given the film’s strong playability with women.

“I never thought this would be a choice on Mom’s Day,” Rocco admitted, adding that the film’s cumulative heights, though uncertain, are expected to be stellar.

Universal also bowed “Neighbors” in 17 international territories, where it overperformed with $34.4 million. Not surprisingly, the pic’s largest-grossing markets were the U.K., which contributed $14.7 million, and Australia, with $7.1 million.

Elsewhere in the Unites States, Sony bowed femme-targeted “Mom’s Night Out” — the $5 million-budgeted family comedy from TriStar — at 1,044 locations, grossing an estimated $4.2 million. The distrib is projecting an 11% uptick for the pic on Mother’s Day.

In limited release, Open Road launched Jon Favreau’s food comedy “Chef” at six engagements, averaging a standout $34,034 per screen, with a total estimated $204,201 through Sunday. The film should leg out nicely given that 93% of the film’s exit scores were the highest-two ratings, according to the distrib.


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Spidey not doing so hot, and I imagine Godzilla/X-Men are pretty much going to kill it in the next couple weeks.
 
Sony needs to drop this idea of a sinister six movie and put on their focus on hiring better script writers for the 3rd spider man movie cos they're just wasting Andrew Garfield's portrayal of spidey.

Also wasn't expecting neighbors to do that much.
 
Kind of refreshing to see a new IP dethrone a fan favorite superhero


So Sony gets 0% from Spider-Man merchandise...hmmm...the more I read about the Spidey deal it seems like Disney doesn't need to buy the movie Spider-Man back because it's so lopsided in Disney's favor.

Also interesting that the ASM series was trying to be cheaper than the previous trilogy and Sony messed that up as well. It will be interesting to see what the fan and business reactions will be like for future Spider-Man sequels and spin-offs; Sony needs an annual franchise.

On the other hand unless Sony collapses then they will keep likely keep Spidey even if they run him and his Co. into the ground
 
Forget super hero movies, if you want to make money, religious movies are the new hip thing. Those movies must have cost like nothing to make.
 
What are Moms' Night Out and Legends of Oz? I've never even heard of those two.

A bunch of actresses I've never heard of are moms who have a crazy adventure while the dads take care of the children or something (or at least that's what I remember from a trailer I saw a month or so ago), and a shitty CG Oz sequel.
 
I ended up watching Million Dollar Arm yesterday at a screening in Pittsburgh. Really enjoyed it, would recommend it for next weekend.
 
The Spidey word of mouth must have been negative.
After seeing it last night, yeah I can see exactly why.

Sony, I think it's time to take it out back... and do an alley deal with Disney.
 
So Sony gets 0% from Spider-Man merchandise...hmmm...the more I read about the Spidey deal it seems like Disney doesn't need to buy the movie Spider-Man back because it's so lopsided in Disney's favor.
Source? That sounds odd.
 
Over 400M overseas already is a pretty good result, isn't it?

It is, but the domestic take is definitely reason to pause for a moment. Realistically, they should have taken this weekend and drop it to Godzilla in the next, but to get so thoroughly trounced like this after one week? There can't be that many happy people right now.
 
Yay Sony needs to do something about the quality of the Spidey movies, they've been mediocre at best and that doesn't cut it with the increasing quality of other superheroes movies.

Forget super hero movies, if you want to make money, religious movies are the new hip thing. Those movies must have cost like nothing to make.

Sure, if you only care about the domestic market.
 
What are Moms' Night Out and Legends of Oz? I've never even heard of those two.

A film made by a brand new animation production company called Summertime Entertainment in Burbank.

It has a $70 million production budget and went through development hell, so this poor $3.7 million opening doesn't bode well for the studio. It also has bad critical reviews and sketchy animation.
 
It's like the rest of the world doesn't exist. Pirates 4 "bombed" in the US and still made over $1B. The overseas market is so big now that sometimes domestic doesn't mean an end all be all.
 
TASM2 was a 'meh' movie, word of mouth ain't helping. Godzilla/X-Men aren't even here yet, I guess it won't out gross Cap 2 domestically or X-Men
 
Source? That sounds odd.

Yea I thought it was bullshit too but Disney really worked a number on the flailing Sony:
The Disney deal everyone forgets, but which you shouldn't
Today, the stakes are higher because Sony no longer gets a cut of merchandising tied to its Spider-Man movies. Why? A late 2011 deal in which Disney traded Marvel's producer fee for new Spider-Man movies for the exclusive right to profit from all merchandise with the Spidey imprint.
Practically, what this means is the Amazing Spider-Man franchise is no longer burdened by Sony having having to pay a hefty percentage of the theater gross to Marvel and Disney. But it also means less residual revenue for Sony Pictures, the company's third-largest source of operating profit in fiscal 2013

http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...estion-for-sony-can-the-spider-man-movie.aspx

Statement from Disney when it happened:

"To that end, we recently completed a transaction with Sony Pictures to simplify our relationship. And then in the deal, we purchased Sony Pictures' participation in Spiderman merchandising, while at the same time, Sony Pictures purchased from us our participation in Spiderman films. This transaction will allow us to control and fully benefit from all Spiderman merchandising activity, while Sony will continue to produce and distribute Spiderman films. We won't be specific about the economics of this 2-way transaction, but we expect it will drive attractive returns for Disney."

Spidey movies will still make money but it will be interesting to see the business and fan reactions to annual spinoffs and sequels. Will Sony keep up with the bloated budget or will they burst?
 
Slightly higher percentage drop for Spidey than the last few Marvel movies. Those were all about 53-58% drops. So not quite disastrous drop. Lower percentage drop than Spider Man 3.
 
Yea I thought it was bullshit too but Disney really worked a number on the flailing Sony:


Statement from Disney when it happened:



Spidey movies will still make money but it will be interesting to see the business and fan reactions to future spinoffs and sequels. Will Sony keep up with the bloated budget or will they burst?

So the question now is, how far off were the merchandising revenues Sony got in comparison to the fee they had to pay Marvel? Because if it's a wash or close either way, then it's not as bad as it seems.
 
Well deserved for Neighbours, found it hilarious
 
So the question now is, how far off were the merchandising revenues Sony got in comparison to the fee they had to pay Marvel? Because if it's a wash or close either way, then it's not as bad as it seems.
But in the years with no spiderman movies they could count on a steady flow of merchandise revenue, which explains why they want a spiderman related movie every year now.
 
So the question now is, how far off were the merchandising revenues Sony got in comparison to the fee they had to pay Marvel? Because if it's a wash or close either way, then it's not as bad as it seems.

Hard numbers would be great, but from the impressions I've read it seems like Disney basically bamboozled Sony and Spider-Man, which makes sense when you look at the status of these two companies in the past few years. In any case Sony will make money from Spider-Man but it will be interesting to see what its future will be like

I started reading about the Spidey deal just in the past week but here's one poster's impression from another forum for what it's worth:
After the Marvel buyout, Disney was very aggressive about taking back a majority ownership position in their most popular character. With film, animation and 50% of merchandising through the Spider-Man Joint Venture, Sony had effectively owned the character since 2002. Disney was able to take advantage of Sony's weak financial position by selling their small interest in the films along with $278 million to purchase animation rights and Sony's merchandising position.

Though Marvel cut some lopsided cinematic licensing deals, they retained control over merchandise. This likely played a role in Sony's decision to sell. While Marvel was dependent on Spidey merchandise licensing, Disney could afford to pull all of the Spidey merchandise off the shelves unless Sony made the deal.

-Zarex @ http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=478675&page=17
 
I see a Sony financial report said they received $278m for the merchandising rights.

So weird, that seems really short-sighted. Plus it's just an odd message, like you're not even betting on your own product.
 
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