He's kind of the only character in Smash Bros. that is 100% a villain, lol.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 7: How Can My Smash Brother Be This Cut
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foxuzamaki
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Well he technically isnt in windwaker, well he is, but not entirely, he just wanted to get hyrule back. But just didnt give a shit about anybody else while trying to.
Red Arremer
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Wolf also was planned for Melee, and it was considered having Wolf be the Fox clone, but Sakurai thought they wouldn't be visually distinct enough, so he picked Falco instead.
ArchedThunder
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Man, a character with 3 fuckin alts? I guess the flood gates for alts have opened. I really hope that most characters get alts. I can understand a few, like the Pokemon, not getting any, but any character that could get an alt should.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Wolf aint a villain tho (semantics yadayada)
with that said wasn't he also planned in 64?
foxuzamaki
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Yeah wolf has put himself as a rival/antihero in recent games, he even teaches fox life lessons.
Wolf is actually Fox's dad.
Red Arremer
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Yes he was, Tyeforce mentioned that in his post, hence I didn't bring it up. And he specifically said "bad guy" instead of "villain" for those semantics. A lot of the bad guys we have in Smash aren't outright villains in several portrayals, that includes but is not limited to Wolf.
I'd still call him a villain in The Wind Waker, lol.
Yeah, true. I excluded Wolf there because I wasn't sure whether Sakurai had actually planned for Wolf or just considered him as a possible Fox clone. Sakurai said that King Dedede was planned for Melee with a move set and everything, I believe, so it wasn't just a consideration there.
He would never get in over King K. Rool, though. King K. Rool is the primary antagonist of the Donkey Kong series. If any Donkey Kong villain gets in Smash Bros., it has to be King K. Rool.I rather get Lord Fredrik, the Snowmad King over King K. Rool.
Rool never looked so bad ass.
That would really put a disturbing spin on all that fanart
Red Arremer
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Not anymore.
Fredrik would be sweet. Side special would be those ice dragons he uses in the final part of the fight, final smash is freezing over the entire stage and then submerging it in lava.I rather get Lord Fredrik, the Snowmad King over King K. Rool.
Rool never looked so bad ass.
This would be a great idea. That design was one of the better ones.
And that's a solid breakdown Tye and you make a lot of sense. Imo, Ridley (somehow) has the best chance out of those. He is probably the most significant one left.
I still feel Syrup would work well since I think Sakurai would stay true to her more villainous side but in reality the chances are slim. And like you said Ware has just as much a chance to get another character, but at the same time I think Ashley had one of the best chances from the series so who knows.
K.Rool, Black Knight, and Black Shadow are not that significant anymore so their at best ATs, imo.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
N-no.
is he his boyfriend?
Yeah, I know Wolf isn't technically a villain (which is why I said "bad guy," as Red Arremer pointed out, lol). King Dedede isn't really much of one, either, for example. He's more of a good guy in recent games. But in the context of Smash Bros., these characters are portrayed as bad guys.
Um...yes he is? I mean, sure, he's been absent for two games, but that doesn't mean he's not the primary antagonist of the franchise as a whole. You wouldn't say that Ganon isn't the primary antagonist of The Legend of Zelda series because he's been absent for a few games (or at least he was before A Link Between Worlds), would you? And contrary to popular belief, there's no reason to believe that we've seen the last of King K. Rool in the Donkey Kong series. Retro just chose not to use him in the last two games. Doesn't mean he won't show up again sometime.
Pop-O-Matic
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This hasn't been true for over a decade.
SuperChoco
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Alt talk and none of you are talking about Dr. Mario!
RomanceDawn
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Yeah your reasoning is sound. Those two are the most likely by far. I can't imagine both of them not making the cut. Well with Dixie maybe I can. What I hope for is like when Fire Emblem was introduced we got 2 characters or in Brawl, Kirby got 2 characters.
Now for the folks trying to keep people being realistic about alternate costumes/skins for characters. Yes the Wii Fits and Animal Crossers use alternate skins very logically considering their series. But why shouldn't we get excited for more of these after Little Mac of all people was given his own alternate? And while he wasn't really little Mac in every Punch Out, he is definitely no longer just a nameless avatar, even if you could call him that.
So far we've only seen costumes and alternates of new characters, I'm willing to bet almost everybody gets at least 1. I don't count the Mega Evoltuions if they can only be accessed with a Smash Ball.
Donkey Kong Barrel Blast and DK: Jungle Climber are only 7 years old, well within the last decade.
Wow, and I still haven't played it. I remember looking for a copy of this game everywhere with no luck. I might as well just emulate the thing.
Ewwww...
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
no just a tsundere rival
Pic of the day. You can choose to play as the girl villager too!! How lovely.
The original villager is the best one though. Those eyes...
I don't know. I thought the game had a really nice style to it. Kind of reminds me of the SNES DKC style. Wish I could have played it.
The ending credit images are also hilarious.
Little Mac's wireframe outfit isn't an alternate model, though. It's just a different texture, much like other outfits like Captain Falcon's Blood Falcon outfit. I wouldn't expect alternate models for characters other than Wario, Villager, and Wii Fit Trainer.
Yes.
You could wear a mii mask but those usually look creepy.
Also in New Leaf they look better because they are more slim.
While the wireframe Mac might not technically be anything more than a retexture, it's a pretty significant departure from other recolors in the game and it's pretty fair to call it a costume especially when stacked up alongside other character's alt colors.
Red Arremer
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Not really. Not counting ports/remakes and the spin-offs, King K. Rool hasn't been the main antagonist since 1999, and that was the fourth game he appeared in. The last time he actually appeared at all was 2008 as an unlockable player for the Mario baseball game.
The fact that Retro has revived DKC, but not a single Kremling is to be seen in the 2 games they made, speaks quite for itself, as well. The DK series currently has no primary villain. K. Rool is a relic of the past, and the 2 new have yet to be recurring.
Ganon has significantly more games under his belt than K. Rool does, and consistently returns even if he isn't the villain in one of the installments.
Of course it doesn't mean he never will show up again. But as it stands, I would not consider him the primary antagonist of the DK series anymore. Regardless, the fate of the Kremlings is uncertain, and with the Snowmads being very similar in concept as the Kremlings, and Lord Fredrik even having the same body type as K. Rool, and borrowing several attacks from Rool, doesn't particularly speak in their favor.
That said, Kremlings do appear in Smash Run, so Sakurai remembers the past of the series, and I'm not talking about K. Rool's chance for Smash (if they were to include a DK baddie, it would be K. Rool, no doubt), but his status as "primary villain" for the DK series. That status, in my opinion, has been revoked until he returns to the series.
First post on GAF is here in SmashGAF lane because this is the only thread I've lurked for 4 months since I've found this place. So let's get everything out of the way.
Ridley will be in Smash4 as
and we will accept him as our lord and savior.
Megaman is the best Newcomer. Because he is Blue.
Villager is the worst because he's going to stab me in my sleep.
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Ridley will be in Smash4 as
A boss character
Megaman is the best Newcomer. Because he is Blue.
Villager is the worst because he's going to stab me in my sleep.
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Troubled Bat
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So, the female villager finally gets revealed. Along with different colors, having differents hair and eyes. That's pretty cool.
Peach is definitely getting that Daisy outfit back.
Peach is definitely getting that Daisy outfit back.
I want Pauline.
Dagobert Duck
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Welcome to the hype...
Topic: I got the feeling that we wont get another character reveal until E3
MrSaturn99
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why are you directing your ewwing at jungle climber
do you not remember brawl's barrel blast trophies
The thing is, though, there isn't really any other villain that takes his place as "primary villain." Tiki Tong was a one-off, and Lord Fredrik is as well for now. Yes, it's been a long time since King K. Rool has antagonized, but there haven't exactly been very many Donkey Kong games since then, either. And King K. Rool has only been absent from three Donkey Kong games. He appears in every other Donkey Kong game (excluding the arcade/Mario vs. Donkey Kong games, of course). Conversely, there have been far more Zelda games, and Ganon has missed out on more Zelda games than King K. Rool has missed out on Donkey Kong games.
ArchedThunder
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MillionVolts
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You say that as if it's a bad thing.
As much as I'd like Dixie, I'd rather have K. Rool. I'm fine with either though.
Cranky would be the most hype though
ArchedThunder
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I'd rather never see K. Rool ever again.
Unless Retro can actually make an antagonist that can replace K. Rool completely, I still wanna see him back one day. I like what Retro's doing but DK not having a recurring antagonist still doesn't sit right with me.
Senator Soufflé
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I looked them up, how could I forget the iconic Kalypso Kritter.
Great post on bad guys btw. Personally we need a proper Ganondorf before others. I'd be keen on Hades, though we might get a far cry 4 style response...
ArchedThunder
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Waluigilicious
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)I get where you're coming from. When you look at his Paon design, the first thing that comes to mind certainly isn't "crocodile". He needs some tweaking, and his tail back. I have no clue why Nintendo got rid of his tail.