Valjean Lafitte
Banned
What the...? Wii U Music?
If true, then...no one wants that. It makes absolutely no sense. Then again, Nintendo.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 7: How Can My Smash Brother Be This Cut
- Thread starter IntelliHeath
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What the...? Wii U Music?
If true, then...no one wants that. It makes absolutely no sense. Then again, Nintendo.
ShockingAlberto
Member
They're not going to pick a competitive player for the people's E3 spot.
Come on, guys. I feel like you set up situations where if Nintendo doesn't do the clearly improbable thing you want, you can bawk about how dumb they're being.
ArchedThunder
Banned
I assure you this is a case of mistaken identity.
Someone needs to slap a
"Nintendo"
on this.
theprodigy
Member
on the contrary, watching a Youtube celebrity or random kid getting destroyed would be absolutely hilarious
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
According to the rules, there's a 15 second time limit on vids. Is that a Instagram thing? Or is it just a restriction Nintendo is making themselves? Because, either way, it sucks. My epic heel promo needs 10 minutes, dammit.
It's a reference to Kirby's Adventure.
I don't mean a pro player, I just mean someone who isn't going to get destroyed in 10 seconds. Someone who at least tried to learn how to play smash bros competitively. I just think it'd be better if the guy could actually stand his ground for more than a minute against the winner. I just want more smash bros!
theprodigy
Member
The Great Gonzales
Member
I don't know, I think I'd have fun playing a match against a pro player, just for the experience of it. Sure, I'd get demolished, but I wouldn't have any expectation of winning. And since it's not a serious tournament match or anything, the pro will go easy on whoever wins the contest. It would be like playing a pick-up game in the backyard with a pro football player.
Aaronrules380
Member
You guys realize you need to be older than 18 to enter? SO the winner won't be a kid
I can totally see M2K jv 5 stocking a dying 6 year old for some reason.
Good point though.
Should have had it be a thing where it shows the update and then shows a team of "no chance but people are still hoping for them anyway" characters like K. Rool, Geno, Goku Shadow etc.
ShockingAlberto
Member
theprodigy
Member
I blame Triforce
Kappa
replace random kid with random dude I guess, also lol at anyone outside US/Canada not being allowed to enter
Aaronrules380
Member
Probably in part because part of the prize are plane tickets, and that expense goes up much more for international flights.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Also you have to work out visas and such for international attendees and are thus responsible for them during their stay. I imagine it's way more lax for Canada.
Ohhhh. Neat.
We don't know. Plus I bet they will play the game for more than one day and if M2K is there, well consider your game wide open Sakurai!
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
You assume that pro players are only good at Melee and aren't just good gamers in general. You assume poorly.
theprodigy
Member
not only that, but the winner of the invitational will have more practice than the winner of the contest
lol
imabeast78
Neo Member
Yeah he doesn't take a lot of the smaller tournaments he goes to seriously but I'm sure he would be a good sport about it and maybe even give some tips. A lot of people want him there because he is a jack of all trades when it comes to smash. Someone who is immersed in competitive melee, brawl, and project m. There are not as many top level players who consistently rank high in all 3 of those games. Even players who play Smash 64 at a high level would be interesting to see.
We will probably learn a few things from people who go to best buys but I think if pros get their hands on the game they will bring a lot of info back to smashboards with them. The question is how much time does whoever is competing be it pro or not get with the game before the Invitational.
Regardless of the 16 they choose and the winner of the contest it should be a good time. Good luck to all those trying to get wrist bands and hopefully a few show up dressed as non confirmed newcomers.
I can almost guarantee that if I had played smash 4 for a full week, i'd still lose against a pro melee player's first time playing. I think a lot of people would be the same. They understand concepts like spacing, playing mindgames, and are already familiar with existing character's movesets, even if they are tweaked, and would thoroughly destroy a casual smash bros player with even months of experience.
OricWindstar
Member
I second this.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
...you are making me feel old.
ShockingAlberto
Member
They're probably going to give the pro player a handicap.
My guess is the people's representative is going to come on stage and have to choose their Mii.
My guess is the people's representative is going to come on stage and have to choose their Mii.
I'm sure you're not that older than me, but I never owned kirby on my NES. Not a huge kirby person, honestly.
Chet Rippo
Member
A lot of fighting game strategies depend on the physics of the game, frames, stun etc. I assume highly.
At a high level, yes. Against someone who doesn't even know BASIC fighting game concepts, they'll win every time.
Give a pro fighting game player a BRAND NEW fighting game, even one not in their expertise, and they'll destroy a casual player with even a modicum of experience.
It's the same as having a pro soccer player play basketball against a chubby fat kid. Even if he isn't a great shot, his athleticism already puts him at an advantage.
theprodigy
Member
This matters for top player vs other top player.
Not so much for top player vs random dude, especially when we aren't exactly switching from Smash to Starcraft or something like that.
Troubled Bat
Member
Hit Stun slider to become a thing! We can finally go back to Smash 64!
Well the other day at GOML some pro melee players decided to enter the Brawl tournament (Mango and Hungrybox). They did pretty good considering they play Melee more than any other game.
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Also, we're all still assuming that these will be actual pro players and not Youtube celebs, games journalists and/or Nintendo's own employees. I know that I'd be shitting myself if I had to go up against M2K, but tell me I'm going to be facing off against Egoraptor (and I mean Egoraptor, not Mango) and I'd be laughing all the way to the bank to cash in the giant novelty check I just won.
theprodigy
Member
minimum hitstun to be air dodge canceled by frame 5, maximum hitstun to be Brawl levels /s
yeah, and the important thing to note here is that this is also against a metagame that's already had 6 years, as opposed to the invitational, which will have a metagame that's uh....brand new
(and of course the players at GOML are obviously far better than whoever wins that contest, unless we get an aspiring pro up in there)
AW YEAH
Kor of Memory
Member
Alright, so I've decided tomorrow will be a new stage shown off. A Starfox stage for the WiiU.
Also, hello SmashGAF. I'm new, please don't hurt me.
Quick recap of myself for you to form opinions on.
I would love to see Wonder Red playable. I expect 48-49 characters. I primarily played as Kirby, Luigi, and Dedede in each smash game.
This was a hopeful (and totally improbable) roster of mine I made a few weeks back.
Also, hello SmashGAF. I'm new, please don't hurt me.
Quick recap of myself for you to form opinions on.
I would love to see Wonder Red playable. I expect 48-49 characters. I primarily played as Kirby, Luigi, and Dedede in each smash game.
This was a hopeful (and totally improbable) roster of mine I made a few weeks back.
Yes, I actually believe that Sega and Nintendo are buddies enough to let another Sonic character in.
Only in this case there is no guarantee the winner of the contest to face one of them will be the equivalent in quality to a fat chubby kid. Most over 18 year olds still gaming in addition to having an interest in Nintendo are probably reasonably decent at video games.
YUP! That's what i'm hoping. I hope we get an 'athlete' as the winner. That's all I want. I'd absolutely LOVE it if the contest winner WON the 'bonus' match. My concern is that the winner WILL be the equivalent of the 'fat chubby kid' vs 'michael jordan.' I want a good fight. Good fights are way more fun to watch than one-sided fights.
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Once again, "decent" ain't gonna cut it against a pro. Pros just have a better understanding of some the the most basic stuff, such as spacing, positioning, mindgames, etc.
I can almost hear the audience chanting "4 stock! 4 stock!". Whoever wins wont want to play games never again.
Unless they choose someone that has experience with fighting games too. In which case you may as well just add a 17th invitation.
theprodigy
Member
define "decent", because if we're talking about your average Nintendo enthusiast there's going to be a huge difference in skill between the two
also, decent vs your friends is a world apart from decent vs tourney players, unless your friends are all tourney players themselves (lol)
Which has to be altered to each game, if you fool around trying to do stuff you did in Melee that you did in Smash 64 you will get fucked up. If you do stuff that you tried to do in Melee in Brawl, you will get fucked up. My friend was a beast with Luigi in Melee and had to drop him in Brawl. Hell Sakurai screwed with edge guarding in this game, so there goes a big chunk of competitive strategy right there, if they fool around thinking they can do that they could end up losing a stock if they don't do their research with all the physics.
Plus, the winner is going to already have had eight games or something like that to get a feel for things, which would be a definite advantage for any player regardless of skill.
PadWarrior
Member
How much money do "pro" smash players make? Always been curious about that.
A good deal of fundamentals are shared between Smash games. From what little I've seen, top players usually learn really fast anyway. There's also just this speed in decision making that's way more noticeable when they play a normal person. It's scary.
Maybe the player won't have to play in front of the audience. Maybe it's more like the winner gets to chill with the invited players and try out Smash 4, that kind of thing.
OricWindstar
Member
That's all true, but the Pro Player would go in knowing that this game isn't going to be Melee and adjust accordingly.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Alright, so I've decided tomorrow will be a new stage shown off. A Starfox stage for the WiiU.
Also, hello SmashGAF. I'm new, please don't hurt me.
Quick recap of myself for you to form opinions on.
I would love to see Wonder Red playable. I expect 48-49 characters. I primarily played as Kirby, Luigi, and Dedede in each smash game.
This was a hopeful (and totally improbable) roster of mine I made a few weeks back.
Yes, I actually believe that Sega and Nintendo are buddies enough to let another Sonic character in.
Welcome to SmashGAF. Same for other new members as well!
I hope that we would get a new stage tmw but I had a doubt tho. I think that they would rather to save stages to reveal after 3DS got released to the public.