Seven Dead, Several Hospitalized in Isla Vista Mass Shooting

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Whoa @ that video In the OP. It's like a fucking movie type Villian in real life... Even that disturbing villian like laugh...

I also got the thought that if they ever made a movie about this guy that Cillian Murphy would have to play him

I dont see how he couldnt get a girl aside from the fact he lacked real confidence

He should have went to Asia, hed have gotton a lot of chicks there. They wouldnt be blonde but they would be hot
 
this is your legacy now child.

Hmmmm. Maybe I am over thinking it but I've never heard saying the average is 4 inch. Is it possible he is trolling through self-loathing (wanting to be ridiculed). It seems outlandish for a narcissist to basically entice his lower-than-average endower like that?
 
This thread is the boiling point of all the "m'lady" threads of this past month.

This kid was an avid internet user, even a forum user. It's not unthinkable that people who think similarly have posted here before. Though this place might be a bit more forgiving than misc.
 
I don't get this creep paradigm in this situation. Dude was mentally ill. This wasn't some frustrated chump.

It's possible he was both. It's also possible he was mentally sound. I don't think we know enough to definitively state that he was "mentally ill". Lucid people kill all the time.
 
It's terrible. I was going to visit my friends in Isla Vista last night and party with them and now this happens? As a gaucho, I'm real saddened at what has been happening in Isla vista lately. If these things continue to happen ucsb won't be the same as it has been anymore.
 
BB forum deleting his threads/posts is tampering with evidence.

I guess they don't want to be associated with the kid but too late.

How do you even know they are doing that? They might very well already be in talk with whoever is investigating this, that you can't access the thread or posts anymore does not mean they have been deleted. Many forums never delete threads but just move them to somewhere not accessible to the public.
 
Wow, so entitled.

"If I can't have you, i'll destroy you". I feel very sorry for the victims, please convict this kid ASAP and never let him watch anime again.
 
you tuped misogyny like 10 times in that post.

and this shit didn't have anything to do with misogyny, he clearly was a troubled individual and was a ticking bomb. there's a lot of people in the world that are lonely and that have similar thinking to this piece of shit but you don't see them killing people.

this guy should have received mental help a long time ago but he didn't and this is what happened.

it has nothing to do with misogyny.

Really? He thinks he is entitled to women, and says that he is going to kill women as retribution for not wanting to fuck him?

And you're saying this has nothing to do with misogyny?

Really!?
 
This kid was an avid internet user, even a forum user. It's not unthinkable that people who think similarly have posted here before. Though this place might be a bit more forgiving than misc.

We can speculate all we want, but attributing him to that camp and simultaneously dismissing any type of psychotic aspect is myopic and perpetuates the stigma mental illnesses get. This isn't the typical "I waved to a girl across the room and didn't even blink at me what a bitch" thread.
 
Try not to look at this from such a one dimensional black or white perspective. That BMW statement made me chuckle a bit. Parents can drown their kids with expensive gifts but if they don't take part in their emotional development, the kids are being failed.

Looking back at his history, its apparent his deeprooted issues have been building up since childhood due to a combination of unfortunate circumstances. Its clear he never had the social experiences most kids go through which help them first, communicate with people and second deal with issues later in adolescences and adult life. There is personal blame first, but his environment and upbringing had a huge role to play. He comes off as a psychotic narcissist, but who have been studied to great detail, and when given the right platforms during their development stages have been shown to become extremely successful in life.

Fair enough. But I find that if his parents didn't give him the right attention (outside of gifts) then surely homeschooling is a an example of good parenting. His videos said a lot about himself though. You can say he's mentally ill but he clearly knew what he was doing.

Wow, so entitled.

"If I can't have you, i'll destroy you". I feel very sorry for the victims, please convict this kid ASAP and never let him watch anime again.

Spoilers...
 
Wow, so entitled.

"If I can't have you, i'll destroy you". I feel very sorry for the victims, please convict this kid ASAP and never let him watch anime again.

It's such a weird line of thinking. If he shot girls that rejected him, I get it the retribution.. but I'm assuming it was random targets. So ALL women were to be his? Even the ugly ones he didn't have any interest in? I don't get that disconnect.
 
Really? He thinks he is entitled to women, and says that he is going to kill women as retribution for not wanting to fuck him?

And you're saying this has nothing to do with misogyny?

Really!?
it's the Carmen complex: "I love you, therefore, I must kill you".
 
Hmmmm. Maybe I am over thinking it but I've never heard saying the average is 4 inch. Is it possible he is trolling through self-loathing (wanting to be ridiculed). It seems outlandish for a narcissist to basically entice his lower-than-average endower like that?

you might be right. maybe we should ask one of his girlfriends... oh right.

mhuahaha
 
It's possible he was both. It's also possible he was mentally sound. I don't think we know enough to definitively state that he was "mentally ill". Lucid people kill all the time.
I guess it would depend on how we characterize "mentally ill", since I would be uncomfortable describing the disturbing level of narcissism and incredibly warped mindset evident, eventually culminating in an act of mass murder, as "mentally sound".
 
He was just taking revenge on humanity because he's a victim!

People wouldn't give him what he wanted just because he wanted it so he's a victim!

Everyone should feel sorry for this man with an unwet dick because everyone knows that not getting your willy wonked is the worst thing ever!

Everyone here should give me money or I'll be sad and I probably won't give anything you want in return but just the fact that not having it makes me sad means that I'm entitled to whatever you have to offer because your rights are less important than my feelings!
 
CHEEZMO™;113266837 said:
What a fucking loser.

It does make you wonder.

Sure, one failed girl-age thread won't make a gaffer turn into this guy, but what about ten of them?
What if someone's consistently put down, and have their misogyny evolve into dangerous levels?

Because judging by the BB.com threads, it looks like that's what happened for this chode.
 
I guess it would depend on how we characterize "mentally ill", since I would be uncomfortable describing the disturbing level of narcissism and incredibly warped mindset evident, eventually culminating in an act of mass murder, as "mentally sound".

Same. The line I'm most interested in is the one that separates self-awareness from delusion.
 
I'm going to try to avoid this subject and thinking about it any more because I can already feel it starting to ruin my whole day. This world is so sad. :<

It sounds like he was really really misogynistic and placed too much value on sex.

I do think that we should try to understand why people do things like this so we can hopefully stop it from happening as much. It sounds like he was really misogynist. And maybe he didn't just place so much value on sex and degrade others because he was selfish, but because society and hegemonic masculinity pressured him into thinking that he was supposed to have sex by a certain age.

I feel like many men are taught that they need to have sex for other people to give them respect and love. I don't think that so many people would think that having sex is this important if they didn't think it would make them loved. Which makes misogyny and acting predatory worse.

Hegemonic masculinity must have contributed to him becoming so horrible. And worse, a lot of people are reacting to this by doing the same horrible sorts of behavior he did in some ways. Calling him, an awful misogynist, a "pussy", comparing him to a woman. Or comparing him to a homosexual.

I feel like misogynist, homophobic and femmephobic behavior like that is what creates people with such terrible misogynistic ideas as him. Just labeling someone as "crazy" is ableist and doesn't help anything. He was someone who lived in a patriarchal society and believed in its values.

I should stop thinking about this because this is going to make me really depressed. I'm so sad that people died. I'm so sad that he was led to be an awful misogynist who wanted to kill innocent people. I'm so sad that people are responding to what he did by reinforcing misogyny and behavior that probably led to him becoming the person that he did.

I agree completely. What's worrying is that there were men in that body building thread who were giving him constructive advice. You'd think he'd be served by not only psychiatric counselling but also a good wingman who can not only help him get girls but also help him lick his wounds.
 
It's such a weird line of thinking. If he shot girls that rejected him, I get it the retribution.. but I'm assuming it was random targets. So ALL women were to be his? Even the ugly ones he didn't have any interest in? I don't get that disconnect.

That's mental illness for you. Still, I can't control the fact that even that I know he was sick, I still find him to be a gigantic POS.
 
I agree. Although I am quick to join in the fun, sometimes I wonder what effect that has on people.

My intention when I post in those threads is to splash cold water on the op. Like, take yourself out of your body and look at your line of thinking/actions from the outside, they're silly. Though I guess it's a form of internet bullying.
 
I'm pretty sure nothing repelled women. He was probably insanely shy and didn't pick up on social cues. Channeled all that frustration and anger he had towards himself and his social inabilities on others while spewing stuff about himself he didn't even belief as an overcompensation.

That's true actually. The more I look at this horrible, creepy chap it's probably closer to that crippling shyness and social 'distance' than anything else.
 
Fair enough. But I find that if his parents didn't give him the right attention (outside of gifts) then surely homeschooling is a an example of good parenting.

Hard to properly say. Did they personally homeschool him? If so, did they have the time to do this properly? Is it the best situation for a kid who felt he had to escape his former school? Did they hire a tutor? Did they consider the homeschooling would give him less social interactions, rather than a lack of negative interactions he maybe wanted to avoid? It's not black and white and we don't know the situation.
 
That's true actually. The more I look at this horrible, creepy chap it's probably closer to that crippling shyness and social 'distance' than anything else.

To me is looks like he felt entitled to them. He was given everything else in his life and he thought that women would just come his way too.
 
Xavier Mozejewski told NewsChannel 3 reporter Victoria Sanchez that he witnessed some of the violence and described it as an "old western shoot-out."

That's my school friend, I should make sure he's doing ok after seeing shit like that.

Absolutely deplorable, the worst part is the dude showed clear warnings signs and no one saw this coming.
 
It does make you wonder.

Sure, one failed girl-age thread won't make a gaffer turn into this guy, but what about ten of them?
What if someone's consistently put down, and have their misogyny evolve into dangerous levels?

Because judging by the BB.com threads, it looks like that's what happened for this chode.

Hey, I like where you're going with this. We should get rid of relationship-age threads.

We should also get rid of "_____ sure is looking good" threads because the judgement of women based on appearance continues to devalue them as little more than objects to be seen.
 
So many armchair psychologists in this thread. Of all the posts and threads we've had recently with people saying the same crap as this guy who get shit on with "m'lady" and "tips fedora" crap, this guy does the same thing but ends up shooting someone and now everyone's saying he was obviously in need of psychiatric help.

I expect a lot of "go see a therapist" posts in the next girl-age thread if you guys are for real.
 
Dear PsychologyGAF,

Is this kid really a psychopath? My understanding is that the layman conflation with psycho is incorrect.
 
Whoa @ that video In the OP. It's like a fucking movie type Villian in real life... Even that disturbing villian like laugh...

I also got the thought that if they ever made a movie about this guy that Cillian Murphy would have to play him

I dont see how he couldnt get a girl aside from the fact he lacked real confidence

He should have went to Asia, hed have gotton a lot of chicks there. They wouldnt be blonde but they would be hot

But he wanted to fuck american sloots...

I also got the thought that if they ever made a movie about this guy that Cillian Murphy would have to play him

Cillian Murphy is perfect for the role. I'm writing the screenplay RIGHT NOW
 
Creepy as all hell. Sadly, I know a guy like this that I've known since High School, dude thinks he's the best thing ever and above everyone. Sick in the headpan he is.
 
So many armchair psychologists in this thread. Of all the posts and threads we've had recently with people saying the same crap as this guy who get shit on with "m'lady" and "tips fedora" crap, this guy does the same thing but ends up shooting someone and now everyone's saying he was obviously in need of psychiatric help.

I expect a lot of "go see a therapist" posts in the next girl-age thread if you guys are for real.

He can't connect with people, talks as if people are objects and has no remorse about taking lives, then commits mass murder. You don't need a degree to figure it out.
 
So many armchair psychologists in this thread. Of all the posts and threads we've had recently with people saying the same crap as this guy who get shit on with "m'lady" and "tips fedora" crap, this guy does the same thing but ends up shooting someone and now everyone's saying he was obviously in need of psychiatric help.

I expect a lot of "go see a therapist" posts in the next girl-age thread if you guys are for real.

I've seen very few to zero posts in girl-age that are as obsessive as this guy's were on BB, have you even seen his Youtube videos? You don't need to be a professional to read that much from the mountain of evidence he's provided via Youtube.
 
So many armchair psychologists in this thread. Of all the posts and threads we've had recently with people saying the same crap as this guy who get shit on with "m'lady" and "tips fedora" crap, this guy does the same thing but ends up shooting someone and now everyone's saying he was obviously in need of psychiatric help.

I expect a lot of "go see a therapist" posts in the next girl-age thread if you guys are for real.

Similar maybe, but those videos are on another level entirely. Quite a few people did suggest seeking psychiatric/psychological help when someone said something really out there on here.
 
He can't connect with people, talks as if people are objects and has no remorse about taking lives, then commits mass murder. You don't need a degree to figure it out.

I've seen very few to zero posts in girl-age that are as obsessive as this guy's were on BB, have you even seen his Youtube videos?

If you look at his posts on BB, without the context of the video, would you say the same thing?

I'm not excusing his actions or saying he DIDN'T need help, just that it's ridiculous to think he could've been saved or that he wouldn't have done it if someone hadn't just "seen the signs" from his forum posts.
 
Dear PsychologyGAF,

Is this kid really a psychopath? My understanding is that the layman conflation with psycho is incorrect.
Truthfact:

No such thing as a psychopath, yeah.
Not really such a thing as a sociopath either, but american psychologists are fuzzy motherfuckers so whatever.

Either way, a couple of videos is not quite enough to diagnose him with a mental disorder, would have to interview peers and parents as well. Sure, something might be "wrong" with him, but just based on the videos all we can do is guess - and your guess is as good as anyone's tbh.
 
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