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[matrixman92]

The watchdogs tweak sheet looks good for my GTX 760! Let's hope it is. So what time does the game unlock on uplay?

What tweak sheet is this, I have the same graphics card.

Most likely 12:01 EST tonight. I have also heard the uplay servers are horrendous when they unlock a game

 

[JaseC]

The watchdogs tweak sheet looks good for my GTX 760! Let's hope it is. So what time does the game unlock on uplay?

I'd guess the same time as the Steam version as far as DD keys are concerned. Click here for a countdown timer (note that the timer ticks over by the hour, so if your clock says 9:55pm and Steam says the game unlocks in 10 hours, it's actually 9, more or less).

 

[Xyber]

Well, if it's any consolation, it's 2am here and my download still has 2.5 hours to go so it's not like I'll be playing it in the immediate future.

Good! *grumpyface*

Unlocks at 10AM here tomorrow, so 14 hours to go I guess.

 

[Kaisersalsek]

I've been holding off updated my Windows 8 to version 8.1

I only did this because when 8.1 came out people were saying there were issues with some games. Is this no longer the case, can I update without any worries now?

I'm on 8.1, only had issue with gta iv, but so does 8.

 

[Smokey]

I'm upset that a game seems clearly able to actually utilize more than the 780 has (not just plain caching) while the 780 is still very much performing well enough to justify having that extra VRAM while Nvidia, for the longest time, forbade 6 GB models from AIBs all to protect their precious and pointless Titan line as well as to force people's hand at premature upgrades, yes.

780s/Tis are premium cards, Nvidia's best short of ridiculously-priced Titans. They cost a fortune, they should not be so clearly mismatchemed and restricted from being otherwise and only now, too late for still-recent buyers like myself, are they allowing just 6 GB regular 780s (not even the Ti). The best part is issues are coming mostly with Nvidia-sponsored games like Watch Dogs and Daylight. People like me don't buy these $500+ monsters to join the "it's just unoptimized" train when games demand more than we've got, we buy them either by themselves or in SLI to play games at their best. Clearly that's not happening now.

A developer's ability to easily use more VRAM tha the card has is not the problem, the problem is the card was intentionally crippled so that it never had the VRAM amount its position and pricetag demanded at least as an option for in the first place. It's disgusting, and I hope to swear off Nvidia entirely with my next 4K-targeted upgrade (when I won't need their exclusive support of driver downsampling anymore).

Nvidia have really gone off the deep end this hardware generation, in my opinion. First the GK104 misleadingly released as their flagship, then the Titan crap getting first crack at the real flagship, then the iterative Titan Black and 780 Ti, and then the Titan Z with shady market segmentation all around. I've never felt more shocked at Nvidia than I am at the moment, a $3000 dual-GPU card when their competitor is selling something of the same caliber for half the price?

My two month old 780 is already exhibiting troubling limitations it should not (when the GPU itself is so powerful). AMD are offering much better hardware sense and value at every pricepoint, Nvidia are selling people $700 cards with no more VRAM than AMD's 2.5 year old and now half-price old flagship in the middle of a console gen shift. Upset is probably not a strong enough word, outraged is better. They are in the best position to have known this would happen and they probably wanted it to.

That's harsh, sorry to hear that.

Epic rant

I've got two 780tis and a 4k monitor ..but due to VRAM I'm most likely screwed with this game.

 

[Objectively Bad Opinion]

New AMD driver tomorrow with support for this game.

http://videocardz.com/50583/amd-catalyst-14-6-brings-eyefinity-mixed-resolutions-support

Are we going to make a new performance thread? This one seems pointless now that the game is about to be released, probably with day one patch, and day one drivers. Performance should be much different. Best send it down to Davy Jones' locker where it belongs...

 

[Lulubop]

I'd guess the same time as the Steam version as far as DD keys are concerned. Click here for a countdown timer (note that the timer ticks over by the hour, so if your clock says 9:55pm and Steam says the game unlocks in 10 hours, it's actually 9, more or less).

Thanks for this.

I got 780ti 3gb variant last week, I was assured 3gb would be enough. Now I'm kinda worried. I guess we'll see in 10 or so hours.

 

[sunnz]

One of the reasons I don't have the 780ti is because it iwas only 3GB.

If I am gonna spend that much money, 5 or 6 GB should be common.

 

[makeitawkward]

I got a key for buying another 770 last week and it doesn't even show up in my uplay yet. So i would say that is bogus information.

How is it gaming with 2 770s? I've been considering getting another but I don't really see a need for it yet.

 

[Skyzard]

One of the reasons I don't have the 780ti is because it iwas only 3GB.

If I am gonna spend that much money, 5 or 6 GB should be common.

I didn't know!

I'm hoping I get lucky and they release the 6GB versions in the next month or two so I can do their step-up program. JUST got in time to register for the 3 year warranty. Would have missed out if they didn't delay sending the gpu to me by one day and then reflect that in the invoice. 2 weeks to do it from purchase date. 3 months from purchase date after registered warranty for the step-up.

Just installed gpu-z so I can keep an eye on the gpu memory usage. It's been killing every other game though.

 

[adamantypants]

Epic rant

I've got two 780tis and a 4k monitor ..but due to VRAM I'm most likely screwed with this game.

Yeah from the looks of this thread, even single 770s can technically handle this game at ultra, it's just the vram bottleneck is getting everyone. I'm anxious to see what this game is like on my single 780ti w/ 3gb. I also game at just 1080p so I'm thinking I'll be fine.

 

[JaseC]

One of the reasons I don't have the 780ti is because it iwas only 3GB.

If I am gonna spend that much money, 5 or 6 GB should be common.

If I had the opportunity to go back in time and buy 4GB 670s instead, I'd take it.

Edit: Since I've been talking about downloading the game I suppose I should err on the side of caution and provide proof of ownership:

Since the game has unlocked here it'll now also appear in my Steam Community games list.

 

[KINGofCRA5H]

One of the reasons I don't have the 780ti is because it iwas only 3GB.

If I am gonna spend that much money, 5 or 6 GB should be common.

I love my 760 4GB. Fraction of the price, too.

 

[Spazznid]

If I had the opportunity to go back in time and buy 4GB 670s instead, I'd take it.

Edit: Since I've been talking about downloading the game I suppose I should err on the side of caution and provide proof of ownership:


Since the game has unlocked here it'll now also appear in my Steam Community games list.

Where is "here"?

 

[JaseC]

Where is "here"?

Australia/New Zealand.

 

[fozzy]

Just got my key. Haven't installed any games to my smallish ssd yet. Would I see much improvement if I installed to the ssd?

 

[Wag]

I have a feeling (like GTA IV) there are going to be tons of mods for this game.

 

[Dictator93]

If I had the opportunity to go back in time and buy 4GB 670s instead, I'd take it.

Edit: Since I've been talking about downloading the game I suppose I should err on the side of caution and provide proof of ownership:


Since the game has unlocked here it'll now also appear in my Steam Community games list.

I like your steam skin, perhaps a link?

 

[AndyBNV]

Just got my key. Haven't installed any games to my smallish ssd yet. Would I see much improvement if I installed to the ssd?

In my experience, a lot. On my WD Black 1TB I was having a fair few stutters from assets being loaded. Switched it to my 840 EVO SSD and it pretty much fixed it.

 

[x3sphere]

Is 4GB VRAM enough to run this with Ultra textures at 4K resolution?

From what I gather 3GB isn't. I have a 780 in my main rig, so might swap it with the 290X in my HTPC.

 

[JaseC]

I have a feeling (like GTA IV) there are going to be tons of mods for this game.

Assuming a mod scene does develop, I give it 3-6 months before somebody announces a "2012 mod".

I like your steam skin, perhaps a link?

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1914848

 

[Smokey]

Before I owned my current LG 34UM95 I owned a 4k Samsung 28" display (TN) briefly and I wasn't all that impressed. I suppose it's good there's no exclusive features for 4k so we all can take advantage of it.

Dunno how you aren't impressed with 4k. I've been playing through BF4 and the difference is very noticeable even from my previous 2560x1600 monitor.

Now if you're talking about the monitor quality or whatever that's a different story.

 

[fozzy]

In my experience, a lot. On my WD Black 1TB I was having a fair few stutters from assets being loaded. Switched it to my 840 EVO SSD and it pretty much fixed it.

Thanks for the quick reply.

 

[red731]

OCing my i7 3770k. Trying to get it stable at 4.5 under prime95. Some wo.....crash
Back to BIOS

 

[Newline]

I love my 760 4GB. Fraction of the price, too.

If only VRAM bus bottlenecks didn't exist.

 

[KINGofCRA5H]

Is 4GB VRAM enough to run this with Ultra textures at 4K resolution?

From what I gather 3GB isn't. I have a 780 in my main rig, so might swap it with the 290X in my HTPC.

It'll be enough for 1080, I highly doubt for 4K. Probably have to lower it to High. Also depends on which AA you are using.

 

[AndyBNV]

Is 4GB VRAM enough to run this with Ultra textures at 4K resolution?

From what I gather 3GB isn't. I have a 780 in my main rig, so might swap it with the 290X in my HTPC.

Usage at 4K with 4xTXAA is ~5.6GB. Without hardware AA it's about 5GB.

 

[cripterion]

Uplay doesn't support pre-loading.



Additionally it unlocked in AU/NZ a few hours ago. We didn't get a pre-load period, though; Ubi just flipped the release switch and decided it'd be a good idea to let everyone else pre-load.

Yup, better late than never

 

[knitoe]

Usage at 4K with 4xTXAA is ~5.6GB. Without hardware AA it's about 5GB.

Guess, my next cards will be 8-12GB and 4K IPS 60/120hz panel.

 

[Anteater]

Well, if it's any consolation, it's 2am here and my download still has 2.5 hours to go so it's not like I'll be playing it in the immediate future.

4:30 sounds like the perfect time to play watchdogs to me

 

[Dave_6]

Man, seeing how often AndyNV posts in some of the bigger release threads is just another reason I'm planning on ditching my HD5870s and grabbing a 770 soon as I can afford to.

The few times I've tried to ask questions to folks on the AMD side on social media, I've always been straight up ignored.

Yep, same here. I've got a 3GB 7970 that 'should' run it ok but I will probably switch to Nvidia later when the new cards are released.

 

[SapientWolf]

One of the reasons I don't have the 780ti is because it iwas only 3GB.

If I am gonna spend that much money, 5 or 6 GB should be common.

If future current gen ports are optimized this badly then even 6GB of VRAM won't help the 780ti.

 

[Dr Dogg]

Question is though Andy what sort of performance were you getting at 4k

 

[EarsOfASnake]

Anyone with a 560ti 1gb care to report on how it runs? I am on the fence.

 

[cripterion]

Any GAF steam group for this?

If anyone wants to hack together, add me on Steam or Uplay : cripterion

 

[Stallion Free]

Question is though Andy what sort of performance were you getting at 4k

I want to know if he gets to use a Quad SLI Titan set up for "research purposes" daily at work.

 

[GHG]

If only VRAM bus bottlenecks didn't exist.

That's entirely dependant on the game and scenario though. For watch dogs it doesn't hold true at all, especially if you have 2 4gb 760s in sli.

All the theories of x card isn't powerful enough to use y amount of ram were nothing but that - theories. The fact is that in the long run the higher VRAM cards are proving to be a better investment.

 

[turcy]

I'm upset that a game seems clearly able to actually utilize more than the 780 has (not just plain caching) while the 780 is still very much performing well enough to justify having that extra VRAM while Nvidia, for the longest time, forbade 6 GB models from AIBs all to protect their precious and pointless Titan line as well as to force people's hand at premature upgrades, yes.

780s/Tis are premium cards, Nvidia's best short of ridiculously-priced Titans. They cost a fortune, they should not be so clearly mismatchemed and restricted from being otherwise and only now, too late for still-recent buyers like myself, are they allowing just 6 GB regular 780s (not even the Ti). The best part is issues are coming mostly with Nvidia-sponsored games like Watch Dogs and Daylight. People like me don't buy these $500+ monsters to join the "it's just unoptimized" train when games demand more than we've got, we buy them either by themselves or in SLI to play games at their best. Clearly that's not happening now.

A developer's ability to easily use more VRAM tha the card has is not the problem, the problem is the card was intentionally crippled so that it never had the VRAM amount its position and pricetag demanded at least as an option for in the first place. It's disgusting, and I hope to swear off Nvidia entirely with my next 4K-targeted upgrade (when I won't need their exclusive support of driver downsampling anymore).

Nvidia have really gone off the deep end this hardware generation, in my opinion. First the GK104 misleadingly released as their flagship, then the Titan crap getting first crack at the real flagship, then the iterative Titan Black and 780 Ti, and then the Titan Z with shady market segmentation all around. I've never felt more shocked at Nvidia than I am at the moment, a $3000 dual-GPU card when their competitor is selling something of the same caliber for half the price?

My two month old 780 is already exhibiting troubling limitations it should not (when the GPU itself is so powerful). AMD are offering much better hardware sense and value at every pricepoint, Nvidia are selling people $700 cards with no more VRAM than AMD's 2.5 year old and now half-price old flagship in the middle of a console gen shift. Upset is probably not a strong enough word, outraged is better. They are in the best position to have known this would happen and they probably wanted it to.

That's harsh, sorry to hear that.

thank you for this post.

can't blame us for being so gutted that our spankin' new videocards aren't even good enough to guarantee bells & whistles on a game like this.

 

[ys45]

Anyone with a 560ti 1gb care to report on how it runs? I am on the fence.

I have a 560ti with 16 gb of ram with an i7 2800 at 3.4 ghz and it run great on high (texture is on high too) and I get around 50 fps (resolution at 1600 X 900)
With the new driver from Nvidia I imagine it might run even better.

 

[Wounded]

Has there been any word or indication that ultra textures not being able to work with 3gb is a permanent fixture or something that should/will change?

 

[Dr Dogg]

I want to know if he gets to use a Quad SLI Titan set up for "research purposes" daily at work.

Hahaha I wouldn't be surprised but if it brings us top quality articles like this then it's well worth it. I get the feeling if there's a wonky desk at Nvidia's HQ it's probably propped up with an old GPU.

 

[Objectively Bad Opinion]

Has there been any word or indication that ultra textures not being able to work with 3gb is a permanent fixture or something that should/will change?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=113495251#post113495251

 

[x3sphere]

Usage at 4K with 4xTXAA is ~5.6GB. Without hardware AA it's about 5GB.

Thanks. Here's hoping the next line of GeForce cards are equipped with a lot more VRAM if this game is any indication of things to come. Would've went for a 6GB 780, but it didn't come out until much later.

 

[Akai__]

I'm new to Uplay (on PC), so I would appreciate your help guys.

I got a code from Nvidia, because I bought a GTX780Ti and I entered that code in the Uplay store. However, the game doesn't appear in my "Games" section, so I wondered, if it will appear, when the game is officially released here or if something went wrong? I'm in Germany, if that matters.

 

[Timu]

OMG at the VRAM usage of 4xTXAA...gonna get it up shortly.

 

[AndyBNV]

I'm new to Uplay (on PC), so I would appreciate your help guys.

I got a code from Nvidia, because I bought a GTX780Ti and I entered that code in the Uplay store. However, the game doesn't appear in my "Games" section, so I wondered, if it will appear, when the game is officially released here or if something went wrong? I'm in Germany, if that matters.

It'll appear when the game is released. Not sure when exactly that is in Germany, on Uplay.

 

[Akai__]

It'll appear when the game is released. Not sure when exactly that is in Germany, on Uplay.

Thanks. Hoping for midnight release, which is in ~ 3 hours.

 

[Smokey]

Usage at 4K with 4xTXAA is ~5.6GB. Without hardware AA it's about 5GB.

I can't

Literally :l

 

[cripterion]

I can't

Literally :l

You need that Titan back lol.

 

[EarsOfASnake]

I have a 560ti with 16 gb of ram with an i7 2800 at 3.4 ghz and it run great on high (texture is on high too) and I get around 50 fps (resolution at 1600 X 900)
With the new driver from Nvidia I imagine it might run even better.

Thanks, you've just made things a lot more tempting.