Fighting Games Weekly | May 26-June 1 | Thank you, Keits

Busaiku said:
What happened to Fall 2014.
This means a November launch.

Ooh, Playstation 3 game is $50.
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November is still fall.

Looks like they're giving P4U2 only 2 months of life

Shouta said:
Pretty much any grappler can be considered a counterpick to the Twins. Both Yun and Yang require playing on the inside to be super effective which coincidentally the same range grapplers want to be in, lol. That means they're always in danger of getting SPD'd or Ultra 1/Ultra 2'd. They have 900 life too compared to the 1050 or 1100 the grapplers have.
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Yup, a grappler will always be a hard counter to the twins. It's why I hate Yams so much.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel that Yang has a better matchup against grapplers than Yun because of his slightly better pokes and more blockstun on his DK.
 
Yeah, but Fall still left the possibility of October.
And it's not like Persona 4 The Ultimax Ultra Suplex Hold is their concern.

The real worry is when they're launching Arcana Heart 3 Love Max.
 
Onemic said:
Yup, a grappler will always be a hard counter to the twins. It's why I hate Yams so much.
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It's a counter but I wouldn't go as far as say it's a hard counter because they still have chainable jab/short to push themselves out of SPD range and long back dashes. Combine those two with lunge punch and Yun can score a knockdown after a whiff SPD attempt.
 
Seasoned Badger said:
It's a counter but I wouldn't go as far as say it's a hard counter because they still have chainable jab/short to push themselves out of SPD range and long back dashes. Combine those two with lunge punch and Yun can score a knockdown after a whiff SPD attempt.
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only Yun has chainable jabs/shorts. Yang has chainable jabs only and his jabs are 4 frames.
 
Compbros said:
Don't think WB would have that unless they forked over a LARGE amount of money. Plus WB/NRS has already shown they'll play ball with Sony (Kratos in MK9, Injustice only on PS4 when it comes to current gen, Black Adam costume only available on PS4).
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MS has spent way more on exclusives than something as narrow in scope as MK.

I don't think it's likely though.

Surprised a GAF insider hasn't leaked the exclusive yet either.
 
I remember Bum had a regular stream telling the stream to choose sides. Well it's apparent on who everybody chose. Bottom line. People can stream whenever they want to. Last I checked, FGTV, AG, PXG, WNF, and a bunch of other FGC related streams happened last night and he just had to single out Sp00ky. I don't think Bum is a bad guy but Sp00ky is doing his own thing and he should just worry about doing his own thing too. If your stream is entertaining and good, people will flock to it regardless of who else is streaming.
 
Im eager to see the reveal of MK on Monday. I really want to see whats in store. Lots of talk about God Liu Kang storyline is being rumored again. Really looking forward to this.
 
xCobalt said:
It's just a generic logo. It appears on google when you type in Street Fighter logo.
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It's not "generic" - it was created specifically for the Anniversary.

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BobbyRoberts said:
It's not "generic" - it was created specifically for the Anniversary.

Street_Fighter_Anniversary_Collection_cover.jpg


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However, since it's been used as the official logo for the series and appears in places generally. Like the Capcom Store for instance.

It is a general logo for the series.

Kadey said:
I remember Bum had a regular stream telling the stream to choose sides. Well it's apparent on who everybody chose. Bottom line. People can stream whenever they want to. Last I checked, FGTV, AG, PXG, WNF, and a bunch of other FGC related streams happened last night and he just had to single out Sp00ky. I don't think Bum is a bad guy but Sp00ky is doing his own thing and he should just worry about doing his own thing too. If your stream is entertaining and good, people will flock to it regardless of who else is streaming.
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Not that I support Bum's aggressiveness, but there is a distinct difference between Sp00ky restreaming out of nowhere and others having regular streams.
 
Either Bum is just fishing for some drama, or he is a simpleton who thinks you can't watch multiple streams simultaneously. Either way, he comes out looking bad.
 
QisTopTier said:
Anniversary collection ate up so many hours of my life.
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Resale on that thing never really dropped, either. I remember being in a GameStop a couple years ago (probably 3, before Third Strike OE came out at least) and the PS2 copy was still going for 25-30.

enzo_gt said:
It is a general logo for the series.
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Okay, but Kirb was thinking it was new at first, is all. And even if it's been used in other means since the 15th anniversary, doesn't mean it's "Generic." I mean - it's a specific logo for a specific brand. It's the opposite of "Generic" by definition :)
 
So what games do you want me to sign you up for Q and the username, shall we go with NeoGAF|Q? or NeoGAF|Qistoptier?
 
enzo_gt said:
However, since it's been used as the official logo for the series and appears in places generally. Like the Capcom Store for instance.

It is a general logo for the series.


Not that I support Bum's aggressiveness, but there is a distinct difference between Sp00ky restreaming out of nowhere and others having regular streams.
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IPW, Capcom Fighters, Team Khaos, a few other places does restreams of locals and tournaments. Better yet, nearly all of the Esports streams do. Nothing new. Sp00ky wants to do it, let him do it. Bum had 800+ viewers which is about his average. He isn't going to miraculously get thousands if Sp00ky doesn't/didn't stream.
 
Shouta said:
So what games do you want me to sign you up for Q and the username, shall we go with NeoGAF|Q? or NeoGAF|Qistoptier?
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Only games I feel confident in are SF and BB so those and QisTopTier. Like I said before there are a bunch of Q's but only one QisTopTier :P

Q is just how I typically get addressed as saying or typing out the whole thing all the time is a bit redundant
 
xCobalt said:
Yeah. It's mostly just a modified version of the SF2 logo.
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Looks a little closer to Street Fighter 1

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edit: there's never been a set "Street Fighter" logo, really. There's always a couple variations from game to game.

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The 15th anniversary logo is probably the closest there is to a general-purpose "STREET FIGHTER" logo.

Street Fighter IV's is probably the worst.
 
Shouta said:
Also EX SPDs from grapplers, and reach on normals, lol. T.Hawk's stand jab is 4 frames and reaches for miles.
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I didn't say it was a favorable match up for the twins. Just saying they still have tools to put themselves at neutral after having their initial attack is blocked by grappers E.G. jab x 4 then neutral jump mk (beat green hand), dive kick or back dash then lunge punch on whiff lariat or SPD. Which is more than you can say for someone like Adon where 99% of his attacks put him in danger of SPD.
 
Interesting, the voice actors for the new characters are already credited in the pc version of SSFIVAE as well Combofiend credited as Combat designer.
 
Seasoned Badger said:
I didn't say it was a favorable match up for the twins. Just saying they still have tools to put themselves at neutral after having their initial attack is blocked by grappers E.G. jab x 4 then neutral jump mk (beat green hand), dive kick or back dash then lunge punch on whiff lariat or SPD. Which is more than you can say for someone like Adon where 99% of his attacks put him in danger of SPD.
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I'd say Adon has a much easier time against grapplers than the twins, he has great pokes, and he can still use his light IAJK without being punished.
 
Onemic said:
I'd say Adon has a much easier time against grapplers than the twins, he has great pokes, and he can still use his light IAJK without being punished.
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Only HK IAJK done at the lowest height is unpunishable by grapplers and he has to back dash or jump immediately because he might be + or neutral on block but he is still in light SPD range. Everything else is a free SPD.

edit: In ultra, everything Adon does is punishable by SPD because of the IAJK nerf to -2 on block.
 
QisTopTier said:
Only games I feel confident in are SF and BB so those and QisTopTier. Like I said before there are a bunch of Q's but only one QisTopTier :P

Q is just how I typically get addressed as saying or typing out the whole thing all the time is a bit redundant
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OK, I'll get you signed up then.

Seasoned Badger said:
I didn't say it was a favorable match up for the twins. Just saying they still have tools to put themselves at neutral after having their initial attack is blocked by grappers E.G. jab x 4 then neutral jump mk (beat green hand), dive kick or back dash then lunge punch on whiff lariat or SPD. Which is more than you can say for someone like Adon where 99% of his attacks put him in danger of SPD.
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I was adding stuff to the point. =P
 
QisTopTier said:
I wish playing adon on pad was easier, but IAJK is a pain. I would have mained him back in Super if that wasn't such a big barrier.
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What's the common motion for IAJK? I do the tiger knee motion and can get it pretty consistently. The delay between the motion and the button press was a little iffy at first though.

Seasoned Badger said:
Only HK IAJK done at the lowest height is unpunishable by grapplers and he has to back dash or jump immediately because he might be + or neutral on block but he is still in light SPD range. Everything else is a free SPD.

edit: In ultra, everything Adon does is punishable by SPD because of the IAJK nerf to -2 on block.
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Only medium and heavy were nerfed. Light is the same.
 
xCobalt said:
What's the common motion for IAJK? I do the tiger knee motion and can get it pretty consistently. The delay between the motion and the button press was a little iffy at first though.
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QCB, U + K is the most common way to do IAJK but Gamerbee insist he does U, QCB and still able to get it out at the lowest height. U, QCB + K is faster way to do IAJK but I can't for the life of me do it at the lowest height.

xCobalt said:
Only medium and heavy were nerfed. Light is the same.
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yeah but you're not + or neutral on block after a LK IAJK even at the lowest height. Only after a meaty LK IAJK.
 
AE apparently getting blown the fuck up in the move from GFWL to steamworks. Netcode worse and jittery, stuttering online and off, audio issues, lighting issues, etc.

Damn #BRINGBACKGFWL Kappa.

People comparing it to the PS3 version now.
 
Basically, if you spend a lot of your time mixing up people close to them, you should learn Sagat for the inevitable Gief counter pick matchup.

Rufus has it really bad in that matchup, it and Seth are his only 7-3 disadvantage matchups. Feels nice to throw people out of their mashed wakeup lariats over and over again though.
 
Seasoned Badger said:
Only HK IAJK done at the lowest height is unpunishable by grapplers and he has to back dash or jump immediately because he might be + or neutral on block but he is still in light SPD range. Everything else is a free SPD.

edit: In ultra, everything Adon does is punishable by SPD because of the IAJK nerf to -2 on block.
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That comes with his game though, Adon is a risk taker in general. You're also underestimating how good his pokes are in the matchup compared to the twins. He doesn't even have to go in to beat a grappler, just space yourself properly.

Seasoned Badger said:
QCB, U + K is the most common way to do IAJK but Gamerbee insist he does U, QCB and still able to get it out at the lowest height. U, QCB + K is faster way to do IAJK but I can't for the life of me do it at the lowest height.
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It's hard at first, but becomes much easier once you practice it for a few weeks. It also has the surprise factor that the other version doesn't since you can bust it out at any time, whereas the other version it's a little telegraphed.
 
Urgh....So many players who used the SF4 service transfer to get a clean pp and bp slate. So fun playing 100 pp and bp players that play strangely like the ones that have 2k+ pp
 
Trickster said:
Urgh....So many players who used the SF4 service transfer to get a clean pp and bp slate. So fun playing 100 pp and bp players that play strangely like the ones that have 2k+ pp
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The trick is to look at how the bp and pp compare.

Smurf accounts suck though lol
 
You can grab every costume for AE at the moment for 75% off, so it's overall cost me less than three pounds to move over to Steamworks, including DLC.

Whelp.
 
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