WayneMorse
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Has anyone actually said this to a cop before? Wouldn't that just instantly piss them off?
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"Am I being detained or am I free to go?"
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Mister Wilhelm
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Yes, it does, because it shows you know your rights and they fucking HATE that.
ComputerMKII
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I've only seen it in Breaking Bad
cheststrongwell
my cake, fuck off
I would never say that. Yes sir, no sir.
Colorful Vocabulary
Member
Can I still say it even if I don't know my rights?
Yes, there are a bunch of youtube videos where people do this. Does not turn out well very often.
elrechazado
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The police are well trained to get you to consent to all sorts of things that you don't have to and shouldn't consent to.
Arkos
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Yes lol. I did just recently, but I couldn't follow through hard enough because I was kind of in the wrong (even though that's what I was denying) and I didn't want to push my luck because I wasn't sure of my rights. Ended up with a smaller ticket than I could have gotten (maybe) though. But I was also super polite and respectful and cooperative (when they persisted) so those are probably better bets (unless you really know your rights in a given situation).
Pretty much. Watch those videos. They're a bunch of lying scumbags.
Basically. Got pulled over for the first time in my life in South Georgia, dude tells me how fast I was going, then asks me if I should have him check his radar again to see if it was wrong. I just shrugged since I knew that was a bullshit question that would only fuck me in the end.
Don't talk back.
blitzcloud
Banned
You know, it may also upset some because those who know most of the rights are those who break the law more often than not, lol
legacyzero
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I would say only if the cop is being unreasonable and you feel like your rights are not being considered.
Otherwise, just throwing it out there just to be a dick, well, makes you a dick. AND pisses the cop off.
Just cooperate, and everything will go fine unless you REALLY fucked up.
Otherwise, just throwing it out there just to be a dick, well, makes you a dick. AND pisses the cop off.
Just cooperate, and everything will go fine unless you REALLY fucked up.
A lot of people here seem to misunderstand when to use that line. It's not the first line you pull out when pulled over. You should ask a cop that question when you feel your business with the officer is complete, but they will not allow you to leave without any cause. If a cop is pestering to check your car with no cause, it's perfectly legitimate to ask that question.
Hypemaster
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lmao this.
not worth the risk. At all.
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Deleted member 17706
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Pretty much, even if you're not a minority.
Argue in court, not against an armed angry individual. You probably wouldn't argue with a guy who is robbing you at gunpoint. Same rules apply to cops.
This sounds reasonable to me.
Mister Wilhelm
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Not without reasonable suspicion that you have committed a crime. I think Pennsylvania just passed a law that changes this, though.
Angelus Errare
Banned
This. All I ever say to cops is:
"Yes sir"
"No sir"
"Sorry officer"
Anything else ends up as a thread about someone being shot by the cops and then 30 pages wondering if the person was a "thug" that deserved it because he looked "suspicious".
Well, my glove compartment is locked, so is the trunk in the back
And I know my rights, so you gon' need a warrant for that
Colorful Vocabulary
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Yeah, I think I'm too much of a weenie to even challenge an officer, even if they were in the wrong. I'd be shaking and stuttering the whole time.
That's actually pretty neat. Just might give that a full read a little later.
If they have probable cause or you give consent.
Horseticuffs
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You know, I go out of my way to follow the social contract. Rule and law are important to me. That being said, the cops are terrifying and their rights and purpose have been twisted. I've always been sure my children know that the police aren't their friends and that talking to them, outside of an emergency, is just about the worst thing you could do.
I'm not a minority but I'll be damned if I'd have the courage to try something like this.
I'm not a minority but I'll be damned if I'd have the courage to try something like this.
Jesus, this is one of those many times I'm glad I'm a Canadian citizen.
I'm an asshole in the face of authority, so I wouldn't survive.
I feel sorry for you Americans. In Sweden I only have positive thoughts about the police here. One time my dog ran away from my garden and after a long search I found the police near the road holding her with a leash. When I got there and they explained the situation they told me I should've called them earlier (which I should have since roaming dogs can be dangerous near roads) and I really felt bad. They were very serious but also very polite and helpful. But then again, Swedish cops under-go a 2.5 year long education. Might be why.
Elor_Nocudee
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yup, I obey them so I don't get shot/teeth knocked out.
HerbertFish
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Le glorious sweeden
Tim the Wiz
Banned
Don't forget that dehumanizing stare.
Sadly this is how I feel too
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Absolutely. We're aware that of course not all police officers are bad, but there are more than enough who are to warrant extra caution. Especially if you're a minority.
Angelus Errare
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Cop feels like you're undermining his authority
Cop sees random object in car
Cop pulls out gun and shoots you 12 times
Cop says you made threatening moves
Cop gets paid vacation
You're still dead
Cop goes back to work
Increase the chance of this happening by 200% if you're black, and another 200% on top of that if you're black in a neighborhood where you don't "look like you belong".
Elfforkusu
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Yes.
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hey_it's_that_dog
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Not all of us, but lots of people have very good reason to. It isn't necessarily corruption or power-tripping that is the threat, but insidious, pervasive prejudices in the culture that make cops just a little bit more suspicious of certain groups of people. That suspicion can translate into unfair treatment or rash decisions during ambiguous situations. Sometimes innocent people end up dead.
You also know that there are also around 120'000 thousand officers that everyday encounter several people in your country. The risks you're talking about is so abysmal.
Lots of general exaggeration happening here. Yes, for some areas of the US and some minorities things can go wrong. I've also seen people able to walk away free or not get a ticket by explaining their situation. If everyone were to take the advice and act like a criminal choosing to do or say nothing half the time i imagine there would be more mistakes made. Gotta know when and where to say these things.
GoldenEye 007
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As a black man, I have had good run-ins with the police. But everyone is different.
One gave me a ride home when it was cold out. Another told to his face I was wasted and that's why I was the passenger in my own car. I could tell he really wanted a DUI, though!
FLORIDA, btw. I know GAF loves FLORIDA.
One gave me a ride home when it was cold out. Another told to his face I was wasted and that's why I was the passenger in my own car. I could tell he really wanted a DUI, though!
FLORIDA, btw. I know GAF loves FLORIDA.
Because police aren't into having conversations with people they are pulling over. And, they shoot people accidentally/on purpose/ whatever, more than enough to warrant caution while dealing with police. Most all of my experiences with police has been police illegally searching my vehicle, or just flat out pulling me over and asking "Is this your vehicle." I'm not about to start asking "am I free to go." during an illegal search/activity/harassment to begin with.
The one time I actually tried to ask a cop what was going on (as I was handcuffed) The officer informed me that If I keep speaking, I will find my head on the "hood of his fucking car."
I'd probably have been roughed up more If I started any more verbal exchange.
What information do you have that would suggest posters are exaggerating about why they wouldn't get into it with a police officer?
Visualante2
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Antagonising someone who has power, by undermining their authority. Some of them don't take kindly to that type of behaviour and will make an example of you.
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