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[Kumubou]

Why we getting worked up over ppl not liking anime, anime games, and saying they get treated like shit or something?

Bruh.... if you like that shit, good for you and keep on liking it, stop worrying about what others think of it.

It's really not a big deal.

I like animu.

Part of the value of a fighting game is directly derived from the size of its playerbase. There's no point in learning a game no one else plays.

If you're playing anything other than SF or Marvel then just enjoy your little niche, baby community and come holla at the big boys when you're ready to play real fighting video games.

LoL and Dota 2 players laugh at your "big boy" player base.

And frankly, if I had to choose between playing LoL and playing UMvC3... I would pick LoL every time and it's not even close. If SF4 and UMvC3 were the only two fighting games available, I would quit the genre outright.

 

[Compbros]

Dude...

EVERYONE who doesn't like Capcom games is a second class citizen.

And even some of Capcom is second class citizen status. Looking at you Cross.


If you're playing anything other than SF or Marvel then just enjoy your little niche, baby community and come holla at the big boys when you're ready to play real fighting video games.

 

[QisTopTier]

And even some of Capcom is second class citizen status. Looking at you Cross.


If you're playing anything other than SF or Marvel then just enjoy your little niche, baby community and come holla at the big boys when you're ready to play real fighting video games.

SF and Marvel is too niche for me, all about that Smash Bros.

 

[toddhunter]

Part of the value of a fighting game is directly derived from the size of its playerbase. There's no point in learning a game no one else plays.

Tell that to Team EG. They seem to do pretty well out of it.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Yeah, have you seen how much he likes Marvel?

 

[Slamtastic]

He like Mortal Kombat and Injustice, too.

Max likes a lot of fighting games.

And that's awful. Why would you play a fighting game instead of a moba? That's where the real money is.

 

[GuardianE]

Max likes a lot of fighting games.

And that's awful. Why would you play a fighting game instead of a moba? That's where the real money is.

When did I say any of that was awful?

Most of Max's poor opinions are outside of the scope of fighting games.

 

[Kalamari]

It's funny, I think KoF requires much greater skill to play, yet it's players are still considered second class to capcom players. It should be the other way around.

 

[Compbros]

LoL and Dota 2 players laugh at your "big boy" player base.

And frankly, if I had to choose between playing LoL and playing UMvC3... I would pick LoL every time and it's not even close. If SF4 and UMvC3 were the only two fighting games available, I would quit the genre outright.

Dat nerd shit? Lawl my dude, sorry, I've gotta life! Excuse me while I spend 8 hours working on my Marvel 3 movement cuz that game is THE HYPE! Where's the pro-hoes!!?!!?!?

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Have I made my sarcasm apparent enough? Might have went overboard lol.

 

[Slamtastic]

I'm posting as stupidly as I can, and you keep responding.

 

[kirblar]

It's funny, I think KoF requires much greater skill to play, yet it's players are still considered second class to capcom players. It should be the other way around.

It's only because in the US KOF never took off. Its all based on popuation size.

And FGC is lowest class citizen among competitive games - compare to FPS, MOBAs, RTS, TCGs, etc. Complaining about Capcom being super popular is missing the point entirely- rising tides lift all boats.

 

[GuardianE]

I'm posting as stupidly as I can, and you keep responding.

There are people that dumb. I'm not one to assume anything.

 

[Compbros]

SF and Marvel is too niche for me, all about that Smash Bros.

Sm-ash? Oh! That "fighting" game with Nintendo characters? BWAHAHAHAHA. Get with the REAL fighters dude! Who cares what you like and have fun with? It's all about what we, the FGC, perceives as the "good" games!

 

[QisTopTier]

Sm-ash? Oh! That "fighting" game with Nintendo characters? BWAHAHAHAHA. Get with the REAL fighters dude! Who cares what you like and have fun with? It's all about what we, the FGC, perceives as the "good" games!

There is no what the FGC perceives as good games, it's just dumb loud fans of each type speaking up.

A dumb fan of capcom games could say ALL ANIMU GAMES SUCK

A dumb fan of anime games could say SMASH BROS IS TEH KIDDIE

A dumb fan of smash bros could say MARVEL IS DUMB WHO WANTS TO BE COMBO'D OVER AND OVER NO SKILLZ

 

[SloaneRisette]

Lets play Killer Instinct!

I wonder if PersonaGAF is up in flames over that.

 

[Rhapsody]

I wonder if PersonaGAF is up in flames over that.

If you post it there, it probably will be.

 

[GuardianE]

There is no what the FGC perceives as good games, it's just dumb loud fans of each type speaking up.

A dumb fan of capcom games could say ALL ANIMU GAMES SUCK

A dumb fan of anime games could say SMASH BROS IS TEH KIDDIE

A dumb fan of smash bros could say MARVEL IS DUMB WHO WANTS TO BE COMBO'D OVER AND OVER NO SKILLZ

It's just an extrapolation of a typical stream chat.

 

[FSLink]

I'm not a big fan of anime in general but damn if the Persona series isn't fun despite the SENPAI!~ stuff. Also killer soundtrack/battle system/etc.

Too bad P4A2 looks meh. That ugly neon blue interface...x_x

 

[Compbros]

There is no what the FGC perceives as good games, it's just fans of each type speaking up.

Unfortunately I disagree. Sure, every section of the FGC has its own voice and likes/loves their game(s) but the Capcom part has the largest voice. As a person on the outside looking in I'd assume the Capcom games are the best/most fun ones and everything is boring/not good when watching a stream. Can't tell you how much "ResidentSleeper" "boring" and "play on name that says it's terrible (Injustass) " when you watch a stream for a regional/major. It's actually pretty sad.



Edit: Also, all my posts besides this one have been a sarcastic/mocking tone of a certain mentality just in case anyone is taking it seriously.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Too bad P4A2 looks meh. That ugly neon blue interface...x_x

I like its UI. Wonder if I'm in the minority.

 

[SloaneRisette]

I like its UI. Wonder if I'm in the minority.

Sure looks a lot better than P4A's UI, at least to me.

 

[Chindogg]

Unfortunately I disagree. Sure, every section of the FGC has its own voice and likes/loves their game(s) but the Capcom part has the largest voice. As a person on the outside looking in I'd assume the Capcom games are the best/most fun ones and everything is boring/not good when watching a stream. Can't tell you how much "ResidentSleeper" "boring" and "play on name that says it's terrible (Injustass) " when you watch a stream for a regional/major. It's actually pretty sad.



Edit: Also, all my posts besides this one have been a sarcastic/mocking tone of a certain mentality just in case anyone is taking it seriously.

Yet I'm the guy who gets blamed when people get banned for being stupid as fuck.

 

[Rhapsody]

I'm not a big fan of anime in general but damn if the Persona series isn't fun despite the SENPAI!~ stuff. Also killer soundtrack/battle system/etc.

Too bad P4A2 looks meh. That ugly neon blue interface...x_x

Too many clashing colors makes the interface look really weird. I'm not a fan of it either.

Doesn't help that the layout looks cluttered already imo.

 

[Laconic]

I'm not a big fan of anime in general but damn if the Persona series isn't fun despite the SENPAI!~ stuff. Also killer soundtrack/battle system/etc.

Too bad P4A2 looks meh. That ugly neon blue interface...x_x

Too bad Arcsys decided to Seppuku it AND BB:CP with Xrd.

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I am not upset in the slightest at survival of the fittest being at play, here. GGs, GG.

 

[Kalamari]

The P4A2 ui has grown on me, at first it looked pretty outrageous but now it doesn't seem so bad. I'm looking forward to it.

 

[Anne]

Too bad Arcsys decided to Seppuku it AND BB:CP with Xrd.

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I am not upset in the slightest at survival of the fittest being at play, here. GGs, GG.

Them self fulfilling prophecies.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

I wonder if PersonaGAF is up in flames over that.

There are a bunch of people in that thread who were formerly like Max and changed their opinions after they

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grew out of their teens and

gave the game(s) a shot.

 

[QisTopTier]

Unfortunately I disagree. Sure, every section of the FGC has its own voice and likes/loves their game(s) but the Capcom part has the largest voice. As a person on the outside looking in I'd assume the Capcom games are the best/most fun ones and everything is boring/not good when watching a stream. Can't tell you how much "ResidentSleeper" "boring" and "play on name that says it's terrible (Injustass) " when you watch a stream for a regional/major. It's actually pretty sad.



Edit: Also, all my posts besides this one have been a sarcastic/mocking tone of a certain mentality just in case anyone is taking it seriously.

The Capcom side of things might be at the front of it all the most often, but the Capcom part of the FGC doesn't represent the whole FGC. Which is basically what you are saying.

 

[Kumubou]

Sm-ash? Oh! That "fighting" game with Nintendo characters? BWAHAHAHAHA. Get with the REAL fighters dude! Who cares what you like and have fun with? It's all about what we, the FGC, perceives as the "good" games!

Pro-hoes? I only know about Touhous.

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pro-hoes is hard to write, even as a joke. bletch.

Yet I'm the guy who gets blamed when people get banned for being stupid as fuck.

Well, you are the one banning them.

(Who the hell is reading stream chat, anyway?)

 

[Compbros]

The Capcom side of things might be at the front of it all the most often, but the Capcom part of the FGC doesn't represent the whole FGC. Which is basically what you are saying.

I believe it does to the people on the outside looking in. They're the games with the most entrants, they get the most stream time/best slots, and the people that watch fighters seem to hate anything that's not them. I personally know better but a casual viewer more than likely doesn't.

 

[MikeBreezy92]

There are a bunch of people in that thread who were formerly like Max and changed their opinions after they

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grew out of their teens and

gave the game(s) a shot.

I guess I must be an eternal teen because I just cant make myself interested. I'll play MK doe

 

[Riposte]

P4 is boring as hell

I want to try it, particularly because the style of it is so alluring, but P3 bored me to death and I was lukewarm on SMTIV, which is suppose to be much better or something.

 

[QisTopTier]

I want to try it, particularly because the style of it is so alluring, but P3 bored me to death and I was lukewarm on SMTIV, which is suppose to be much better or something.

Try SMT3


Also the people flipping out over not being able to play Ultra for a few hours is pretty hilarious to me.

 

[mbpm1]

Also the people flipping out over not being able to play Ultra for a few hours is pretty hilarious to me.

Tbh I thought the funniest part were the DJ comments out of nowhere

 

[QisTopTier]

DeeJay being shitty is pretty much a Meme here now

I believe it does to the people on the outside looking in. They're the games with the most entrants, they get the most stream time/best slots, and the people that watch fighters seem to hate anything that's not them. I personally know better but a casual viewer more than likely doesn't.

That didn't stop Smash Bros from growing and it didn't stop MK and Injustice from selling.

 

[MikeBreezy92]

Lord knows how people would be if this was a marvel patch

 

[CrazyTank940]

I like its UI. Wonder if I'm in the minority.

I like it too, though with the colors used I can see why people don't.

 

[Ragingnight]

i hate the new p4a colors. holy shit they are bad for me. I liked the yellow much better

 

[Compbros]

DeeJay being shitty is pretty much a Meme here now



That didn't stop Smash Bros from growing and it didn't stop MK and Injustice from selling.

No it didn't. Though MK has massive casual appeal.

 

[Sayah]

Part of the value of a fighting game is directly derived from the size of its playerbase. There's no point in learning a game no one else plays.

I disagree here. A single person to do local play with is enough for me to play fighting games.

If SF4 and UMvC3 were the only two fighting games available, I would quit the genre outright.

I agree here.

Sm-ash? Oh! That "fighting" game with Nintendo characters? BWAHAHAHAHA. Get with the REAL fighters dude! Who cares what you like and have fun with? It's all about what we, the FGC, perceives as the "good" games!

This is light-as-day trolling.

 

[Onemic]

There are a bunch of people in that thread who were formerly like Max and changed their opinions after they

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grew out of their teens and

gave the game(s) a shot.

I used to not see the big deal about P3/P4 because of the exact reasons Max stated. Then I played it....

Don't judge a book by its cover

 

[QisTopTier]

i hate the new p4a colors. holy shit they are bad for me. I liked the yellow much better

But the neon blue-green UI on neon blue-green stages is so easy and clear to read and not stressful on the eyes at all!

 

[Crocodile]

Smash 4's art direction is literally just a upgraded version of Brawl. (Wii U version)

Well this isn't blatantly true. There are actually noteworthy changes to the designs of the characters and the use of color is markedly different amongst other things. Smash 4 blows Brawl away when it comes to art.

You can't say that with 100% certainty. Hell even I am not saying it with 100% certainty.

I also don't understand your use of anecdotal evidence here. Every person I know in real life who I have asked that play fighting games about Skullgirls say it has a shit artstyle (something along the lines of "cartoon porn" comment). Even the people who actually play Skullgirls think it has a terrible artstyle and is one of the areas where they felt it could've been improved on. I absolutely challenge your claim that the amount of people who hate the artstyle versus love the artstyle is practically the same.

You're using anecdotal evidence to fight anecdotal evidence? I'm not sure that's going to get super far

I'm not saying what you're saying is necessarily wrong but I can certainly echo what MM and Discoshark have said in that there are a lot of people who LOVE how the game looks - they may not necessarily be the type of people who frequent FGC events though. Without some way to do some scientific polling, there's no way to actually definitively answer this "challenge" though

Far more damaging to SG were all the delays that pushed it outside the major schedule for that year, and early balance issues certainly didn't help either. Not to mention it was a team based fighter with only eight characters, one of which was a Seth.

More characters would obviously be a boon to the game but given their quality and the budget/manpower constraints (its an indie game of course) I'm not sure sure what options they had. Would making it a strict 1v1 fighter have been absolutely "better"? Even if all 1/2/3 character teams aren't viable, that still leaves for more possible combinations than would be available as a strict 1v1 fighter.

People were absolutely turned away from Skullgirls' artstyle. A lot of folks only heard of the game through the initial criticisms of said artstyle. When people can write diatribe after diatribe about the game based solely on its artstyle, lack of variety in bodytypes or smuttiness, to the point of using it as a crutch for criticizing the game as a whole, it's clearly detrimental to the game.

That said, Skullgirls is Ahad's baby. If he wasn't involved, there's a good chance we wouldn't have Skullgirls to begin with. I'm not sure what Mike_Z was working on before it, but it probably would have been much different than what we have now.

Huh? The bolded is like factually incorrect. People were saying that? Weird.

 

[JDdelphin]

http://youtu.be/WSo0mvDpBRY

Dee Jay looks like lots of fun, if a bit more honest compared to others...

 

[Dahbomb]

You're using anecdotal evidence to fight anecdotal evidence? I'm not sure that's going to get super far

It was a tongue in cheek type thing... I don't put much weight in it hence why I didn't understand that it was brought up to begin with.

 

[Hitokage]

Lets play Killer Instinct!

Eh, I'm an anime fan, and the whole Persona stuff has been lost on me and the bits of the RPG games I've seen did not impress. Max isn't off here! *shrug*

 

[Chavelo]

Lets play Killer Instinct!

First Killer Instinct, then the commentary at VxG, then the dog thing on the furries fighting game, then this shit.

Max confirmed for DSP tier.

 

[Dahbomb]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=829693

I said GOD DAMN at this monitor.

 

[Uraizen]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=829693

I said GOD DAMN at this monitor.

I reeled back in my chair, but then I realized the games I enjoy most like to lock their resolution on PC. It's sexy to the power of "Oh God," but not very practical. =(

 

[Hitokage]

They said unblockables were removed, but here we are getting hit by Grace Chen's.