Today's music is garbage

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Whites?? WTF. You think being nostalgic for old music is limited to white people? I know just as many older black people that moan about rap and think that only Motown or soul is "real" music.

I understand what you're saying, but you might want to re-think the racial aspect of it. As an aside, I'm a 50 year old white guy that loves finding great new music all the time.

I don't mean to say that's an exclusive domain of old white guys to criticize all music that doesn't sound like the music they liked in college is garbage, but I don't think it's controversial to point out that the largest contingent doing this are older white guys who grew up on what's now "classic rock" and think any music not in that genre and/or made in the past 20 years that isn't from arists who were around prior is shit.
 
Best Ministry is pre Psalm 69. Although a live album, In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up, is IMO the best thing they've done.

Didn't they only have, like, two albums before Psalm 69? And one of them was a synthpop album that the frontman called "an abortion of an album"?
 
Let me reemphasise, I was agreeing with the other poster about growing up in the 90s as a child. There is good stuff but not for me as a kid. I wasn't really into music much at all as a result until my later years in the 2000s.

I didn't know much of any good music from then. The popular shit like spice girls as you mentioned? Or boozing, backstreet boys etc? That was all I knew and yes it was awful but I had nothing else as a child for any frame of reference.
I get it man, 90s pop was terrible as fuck. Actually, I'll even go so far as to agree that the big rap trends like trap and crunk have been a lot better than Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys and NSync. But they were not the whole decade, man. They were just the Justin Bieber and One Direction of back then. Electronic music started getting really good as sampling technology improved, the most gritty elements of rap and rock culture swept out the stupid shit that was running the charts in the 80s, the entire dance culture was born, the alternative rock movement was incredible... it was really awesome. Now there's access to more good music than ever and I love new stuff too, and I get you had to listen to some real bullshit that pales in comparison to what you can easily find these days, but saying "the 90's sucked" when a) you were simply too young when the cool stuff was popular/easy to find in the first half of the decade, and b) after that, you just didn't have the tools we have now for discovering music (Spotify apps and playlists are the shit) - that is really dismissive. Start on this list and work backwards and I guarantee you'll change your mind about how amazing that decade was for music fans.

http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/5923-top-100-albums-of-the-1990s/10/

To be fair the 80s had it's fair share of amazing bands that you had to dig deep for, all of which had a pervasive influence on the following decades alternative scenes: Sonic Youth, Pixies, Joy Division, Kraftwerk, Melvins etc.
Yes! Very, very fair point -- but it all stayed way underground, really. (Well, as far as I know, I was a little kid in the 80s)

I was just comparing what the culture was generally doing in the 80s vs the 90s. Early 90s MTV was absolutely amazing - from there you could move on to Alternative Press, Spin, Flipside, Punk Planet (which I reviewed records for), MRR, etc. It wasn't hard to find the good stuff - it was like, laying around. That's why this film is called 1991: The Year Punk Broke! :) What is the coolest song that even charted in the 80s?

Have enjoyed your posts btw
 
Didn't they only have, like, two albums before Psalm 69? And one of them was a synthpop album that the frontman called "an abortion of an album"?

Five if you include the live album.
With Sympathy (the synthpop album)
Twitch
The Land of Rape and Honey
The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste
In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up (live)
 
Didn't they only have, like, two albums before Psalm 69? And one of them was a synthpop album that the frontman called "an abortion of an album"?

Wikipedia tells me they had four albums before Psalm 69. I think the first one is the synthpop album. Their second album (Twitch) got a lot of play in my frat house back in 1986 when it came out.

Edit: I see somebody beat me to it...
 
I haven't really found any new artists that I like since The Strokes and Franz Ferdinand, really. That was a good 10+ years ago now.
Oh man, there's so much good shit. Here, I made a playlist of 2008-2012 faves. I limited myself to one song by each artist. Ended up with 91 tracks! That's a lot of active, awesome artists making great music. If you like rock, you should check it out.

http://open.spotify.com/user/uncelestial/playlist/1iLt89pfJzrymji6ncICQX

My best of 2013 is here: http://open.spotify.com/user/uncelestial/playlist/0hbf7h6bFLodUW2C3TdKJP

Really, if you wanna get back into discovering new music, get into Spotify. Google Music is the best way to have a library of your favorite music, Spotify is the best was to discover new music - and it's free!
 
I'm a recent convert to TOGETHER Pangaea, I'd put the new Parquet Courts in that territory as well and even if I wasn't as large a fan of their breakthrough as some people the new Orwells is apparently solid.

The Orwells are one of the most disgusting, terrible bands I've ever had the misfortune of seeing.

The new Parquet Corts is v. good though. I would say their an exception, not the rule though.
 
The Orwells are one of the most disgusting, terrible bands I've ever had the misfortune of seeing.
At most I'd give their debut a meh/10 but im willing to give their new LP a shot. It's a sound that has a small barrier between great and terrible for me.

Edit: plus other albums like the new Cloud Nothings are taking cues from that 90's sound.
 
Well the experience of growing up with it certainly always coloured it for me.

I can appreciate that. I grew up in the 80s. I thought everything was shit, until I grew up and found all kinds of awesome music (Birthday Party, Joy Division, Pixies, Sonic Youth etc.)

Branding a whole decade as shit because all you listened to was the radio is cray cray!
 
At most I'd give their debut a meh/10 but im willing to give their new LP a shot. It's a sound that has a small barrier between great and terrible for me.

I saw them like two months ago and watched their pasty, Chris Farley-with-a-wig esque lead singer put his hands down his pants and then proceed to grab onto underage girls in the audience
 
I saw them like two months ago and watched their pasty, Chris Farley-with-a-wig esque lead singer put his hands down his pants and then proceed to grab onto underage girls in the audience

Well that hadn't crossed my radar.


Shit.

Ah well they were just going to tide me over until Spoon's new album drops.
 
At most I'd give their debut a meh/10 but im willing to give their new LP a shot. It's a sound that has a small barrier between great and terrible for me.

Edit: plus other albums like the new Cloud Nothings are taking cues from that 90's sound.

as well as Yuck, Joanna Gruesome, The Cheatahs, Speedy Ortiz all come to mind as others.
 
10s is so far probably the worst decade imo, speaking as someone who focuses on that buried music. But 00s was very close to the best.

Indie and punk rock music is certainly at its worst in a while. Prog has been reduced to a nerd-niche. Jazz is primarily devoted to decades old ideas. "Electronica" is growing fatter but not taller. Pop is middling overall. Techno and Rap are doing alright. I'd say that Metal is the only genre that's really thriving.

It's 2014, grouping genres in specific groups like these is irrelevant because they're are so many sub-genres and overlaps. And even if this wasn't true, what metric could you based this on? Unless you've listened to every album in that genre in every decade, you're really just looking at trends. And really that could be marked down as a criticism of modern day media and hype more than the quality of the music itself.

Ranking music by decade always struck me as baseless pop-culture nostalgia than music criticism. Judging a piece of a media on it's time period alone is a vapid criticism, let alone the entirety of music in that decade.
 
as well as Yuck, Joanna Gruesome, The Cheetahs, Speedy Ortiz all come to mind as others.

Great group of bands there. I was gonna mention Speedy Ortiz and Joanna Gruesome but felt like keeping it to 2014.

I haven't checked out The Cheetahs yet, next on my list for sure.

edit: How the fuck could I forget about Thee Oh Sees, they may have been kicking around for a while but Floating Coffin and Drop are standouts for me.
 
Nah, you're wrong... sorry to have to break it to you. I know music is subjective, but the 90s had some amazing albums that are among the best of all time. Off the top of my head...

Bjork - Homogenic
Radiohead - OK Computer
Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes
Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Squarepusher - Music Is Rotted One Note
The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
Cibo Matto - Viva La Woman
Emiliana Torrini - Love in the Time of Science
Sigur Ros - Ágætis byrjun
The Smashing Pumpkins - Adore
Aphex Twin - The Richard D. James Album
Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children
Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen, We Are Floating in Space

Where the hell is R.E.M. AKA probably one of the most influential and greatest American rock bands in the last...30 years?

SMH at the lack of respect those guys get on the internet when people talk about great 80d/90s rock albums.
 
Yes! Very, very fair point -- but it all stayed way underground, really. (Well, as far as I know, I was a little kid in the 80s)

I was just comparing what the culture was generally doing in the 80s vs the 90s. Early 90s MTV was absolutely amazing - from there you could move on to Alternative Press, Spin, Flipside, Punk Planet (which I reviewed records for), MRR, etc. It wasn't hard to find the good stuff - it was like, laying around. That's why this film is called 1991: The Year Punk Broke! :) What is the coolest song that even charted in the 80s?

Have enjoyed your posts btw

That's a great documentary, man. That's basically ground zero for my musical tastes. :)

Certainly, the alternative scene exploded in the early nineties and had a stranglehold on the mainstream for the better part of the nineties in one form or other, but it all has it's roots in stuff bubbling in the 80s Underground (well, it had it's beginnings even further back with things like the No Wave, Post Punk and, even earlier with bands like The Stooges and MC5, but... forget that for a minute, alright?! XD)

It's funny that you chose 1991 because Sonic Youth are an alternative band that broke the charts in the 80s. Sonic Youth's big breakthrough and arguably quintessential album is Daydream Nation, released in 1988. Google tells me that the single, Teenage Riot, was in the Billboard Top 20 the year of release. It was 20, but still, that's a pretty damn cool song.

Anyway, have some nice rock music for no reason:

Escucha, Kong and Oxbow.
 
You guys are looking at the wrong music. There are a lot of great artists out today. But internet hipsters would see through that and stay attached to the 90s

My central taste are primarily rooted in the 90's, but there has been tons of great that has come out since. Sometimes in the same scenes that haven't died and are still innovating in amazing ways. But even still tons of great new music. I think just want to drop an edgy selfdefining stance and don't really know how to move beyond that external perception to really better the place where they stand.

It's certainly no easy task finding it all, I waste more time than I'd like to admit. It's the one thing I spend more time on than gaf asides from sleeping.
 
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Beyoncé - Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)

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Can anyone think of a worse song that hit #1 on the charts and got non-stop radio play?

I'm trying really hard and I can't. Even Spice Girls is better than this shit.

James Blunt - You're Beautiful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oofSnsGkops

^ I hate this song so much I literally make a fist when I hear it.

It didn't hit #1 or anything, but I'd rather listen to a recording of my family burning to death than ukulele twee shit like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv2UUcXCo9g
 
I can appreciate that. I grew up in the 80s. I thought everything was shit, until I grew up and found all kinds of awesome music (Birthday Party, Joy Division, Pixies, Sonic Youth etc.)

Branding a whole decade as shit because all you listened to was the radio is cray cray!

But it's so easy, don't have to make much of an effort! :D

There are still some good stations like Zane Lowe's stuff on BBC Radio. Heard quite a few good bands from there, and he's always so hype about most good music. This is an example that I heard from his show:

Pale King - An Airing
 
that statement doesn't even make sense. the generalization of "hipsters" are people that usually listen to new music (esp. super obscure bands) and reject a lot of classic stuff....
They don't reject old stuff, at all. In fact, they dress in 90s clothing and listen to 90s music.
 
Where the hell is R.E.M. AKA probably one of the most influential and greatest American rock bands in the last...30 years?

SMH at the lack of respect those guys get on the internet when people talk about great 80d/90s rock albums.

lmao

Sorry, I don't listen to R.E.M. so I can't speak for them being the most influential rock band in the last 30 years.

I just listed albums off the top of my head of stuff I listened to growing up in the 90s. Don't take it personal that I didn't list your favorite band.
 
Hall & Oates set the bar to high, nothing comes close to them B^)

meh music today is decent, got a lot to listen too


everyone go listen to "the majestic" , heard it on american dad and that song was amazing
 
Same here, but they're pretty hit-and-miss. Psalm 69 is great, everything before and after is serviceable-to-bad.

You mean everything before Psalm 69. I remember listening to that cassette the day it came out and being disappointed. "In case you didn't feel like showing up" is one of the best live albums ever.
 
Indie and punk rock music is certainly at its worst in a while.

What's wrong with modern indie? It's certainly the most successful it's ever been, with Arcade Fire, the Decemberists, and Vampire Weekend topping the charts with their albums.
 
Die Antwoord and Chvrches are my current favorite bands, and they are both fairly recent. So I am loving today's music scene!
 
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