Today's music is garbage

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But you are so full of yourself criticizing my "dumb" opinion? Who feel superior here?

If you don't like my opinion just close the thread. I wasn't being serious when I posted the list that offended you. I'm serious telling you music nowadays is centered in money. You should go to sleep.

"I don't like _____ music" is an opinion. The stuff you're saying about how all music is generated these days is a factual (incorrect) statement. You're operating under the premise that all music in the past was created with nothing but pure artistic integrity, and that all current music is purely manufactured by big record labels. Of course there are many instances where this is the case, but you are creating a very narrow viewpoint and lumping entire generations of artists into these categories.

I wasn't offended by your list, I just don't get people like you. As far as I can tell you are only allowing yourself to see what you want to see. And if you're not interested in actually having a discussion then maybe you should leave the thread.
 
Did you see you all the buzz I created on this thread with my narrowed view of music?

That's exactly how nowadays music acts. Just Buzz. Enjoy yourselves. Good night!
 
Every decade is plagued with terrible music. Just that 2000's and 2010's thus far have a much higher ratio of garbage. I used to be able to sit and listen to the radio in the 80's and 90's and be fine as the raito of good to garbage was tolerable. Anymore I can't listen to any station outside of those that play pre-2000's music.
 
Every decade is plagued with terrible music. Just that 2000's and 2010's thus far have a much higher ratio of garbage. I used to be able to sit and listen to the radio in the 80's and 90's and be fine as the raito of good to garbage was tolerable. Anymore I can't listen to any station outside of those that play pre-2000's music.

The first bit is true, although the second part seems more the selection picked for rotation on the radio stations you listen to, than a lack of good music that could be being selected.

Sucks for people who want to tune in to regular radio stations to hear the best recent picks for the type of music they like though. Good radio should be hand curated from among the wealth of music out there, than merely replaying the same promoted songs (which in more recent times can be pretty bad).
 
Though it's certainly subjective, I'd rather listen to that than this shit.


You guys are listing some of the all time ironic/so-bad-it's-good songs. I Don't Want To Miss a Thing is an all time classic for drunken karaoke, alongside the Titanic theme!

To be fair, these songs aren't great, but I don't think they are even in the same league as the shit that is Pitbull featuring KE$HA.

James Blunt - You're Beautiful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oofSnsGkops

^ I hate this song so much I literally make a fist when I hear it.

THIS SHIT THOUGH

THIS COMES CLOSE

Besides god awful Pitbull feat. KE$HA "hits", there's nothing I can't stand more than overplayed, overly lovey dovey soft rock shit.

I go to a gym that blasts this kind of music at all hours of the day. You'd think a gym would play something a little more upbeat, maybe some rock? Dance music? Hip hop? I don't know. While I listen to my own music in my headphones, sometimes the awfulness will creep through...

this

and this

ughhhhhhhhhhh

kill meeeeeeeeeee

every god damn day. multiple times a day. for what feels like the last year.

it was never this bad
 
it was never this bad

It was always this bad.
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The ways of producing music has changed, in a sense that you no longer have to have 4 different people in a room in the classic rock kind of way, and can do everything exactly the way you want to in your garage with a macbook.

So record companies are more wary of financing unproved, traditional rockish kind of bands because it costs so much more than simply distributing something that a guy finished on his computer. Combine that with the fact that rock music simply isn't as popular is it used to be, and you get a reason why there's so much more electronic music nowadays.

But due to better technology, especially the fact that you don't record to tape anymore, it's still much easier to record even ordinary rock music. Good luck getting recognized though, it's also more difficult to get heard since there's simply so much music nowadays. That doesn't really matter to people who just listen to music, it just means there's more music being released.

So, basically more shit to wade through, but there's even more good music to hear. Also, there's less rock music and more electronic music now due to the changes in production that mentioned, but I don't understand why that's a bad thing unless you exclusively listen to rock music and think electronic music isn't 'real music' for some reason. You can just listen to older rock records anyway, since it's easier than it ever has been to dig out old gems.

It's also much easier for more experimental artists to release things since they can cut the middle man, build their own makeshift studio and release their music on the internet. Unless you're a record company executive I don't see why these changes are bad.
 
People who bemoan the state of current music strike me as music's equivalent of hard right social conservatives. "This thing isn't the same as how I remember things being a few decades ago, so I'm going to complain about the fact that things have changed rather than embrace the natural change and progression that occurs as part of any healthy culture."

Rock fans who bemoan the fact that rock music isn't as popular or isn't made the same way as it was in the Seventies. Rock music is supposed to be disruptive, and it's supposed to be morphing into new shapes and forms. The idea that rock music needs to sound like Zeppelin or the Stones is just conservatism, which is the antithesis of rock. If musicians want to stick an electronic beat and a dubstep drop behind their guitar riffs, then fair fucking play to them. I'd rather they do that than try and ape Led Zeppelin IV some more.

Then there are the Blues Fascists like Jack White, who think that the Blues gave us everything, and anything that isn't recorded on a fifty year old slice of analogue tape through a second hand vintage Fender amp is some kind of sacrilege. "Oh it doesn't sound the same as it did in the old days." No shit, modern technology sounds different to vacuum tubes and tape. I'd rather have modern technology, and its ability to give us everything from a new Tim Hecker album to an Infected Mushroom record, than an outdated technology that makes everything sound drier and scratchier than a camel skin blanket.

There is more amazing music being made currently than at any other time in history. Right now I'm listening to Glitch Mob at work. In a bit, I might put on Wild Light by 65daysofstatic, or maybe a bit of God Is An Astronaut. I'll go home and listen to a Steven Wilson solo album, or perhaps put on the Orchestrion album by Pat Metheny. I can listen to Sigur Ros' most recent album, and reminisce about the amazing gig of theirs I saw last year at the Eden project, or I can go for something completely different like Tim Hecker, Warpaint or Cunninlynguists. Chromeo and Daft Punk are lighting up the pop charts with music that is actually well constructed and musical, Tool have got another album on the way, and Aesop Rock is still writing and touring.

If the only thing you have to say about modern music is "Blurgh, it's shit compared to what we used to get in the old days" then may I politely ask you to grow up, and stop acting like music's version of Bill O'Reilley. There is so much great music out there to be discovered that there is no excuse for acting as if stuff like Katy Perry defines all modern music.
 
People who bemoan the state of current music strike me as music's equivalent of hard right social conservatives. "This thing isn't the same as how I remember things being a few decades ago, so I'm going to complain about the fact that things have changed rather than embrace the natural change and progression that occurs as part of any healthy culture."

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If the only thing you have to say about modern music is "Blurgh, it's shit compared to what we used to get in the old days" then may I politely ask you to grow up, and stop acting like music's version of Bill O'Reilley. There is so much great music out there to be discovered that there is no excuse for acting as if stuff like Katy Perry defines all modern music.

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People who bemoan the state of current music strike me as music's equivalent of hard right social conservatives. "This thing isn't the same as how I remember things being a few decades ago, so I'm going to complain about the fact that things have changed rather than embrace the natural change and progression that occurs as part of any healthy culture."

Rock fans who bemoan the fact that rock music isn't as popular or isn't made the same way as it was in the Seventies. Rock music is supposed to be disruptive, and it's supposed to be morphing into new shapes and forms. The idea that rock music needs to sound like Zeppelin or the Stones is just conservatism, which is the antithesis of rock. If musicians want to stick an electronic beat and a dubstep drop behind their guitar riffs, then fair fucking play to them. I'd rather they do that than try and ape Led Zeppelin IV some more.

Then there are the Blues Fascists like Jack White, who think that the Blues gave us everything, and anything that isn't recorded on a fifty year old slice of analogue tape through a second hand vintage Fender amp is some kind of sacrilege. "Oh it doesn't sound the same as it did in the old days." No shit, modern technology sounds different to vacuum tubes and tape. I'd rather have modern technology, and its ability to give us everything from a new Tim Hecker album to an Infected Mushroom record, than an outdated technology that makes everything sound drier and scratchier than a camel skin blanket.

There is more amazing music being made currently than at any other time in history. Right now I'm listening to Glitch Mob at work. In a bit, I might put on Wild Light by 65daysofstatic, or maybe a bit of God Is An Astronaut. I'll go home and listen to a Steven Wilson solo album, or perhaps put on the Orchestrion album by Pat Metheny. I can listen to Sigur Ros' most recent album, and reminisce about the amazing gig of theirs I saw last year at the Eden project, or I can go for something completely different like Tim Hecker, Warpaint or Cunninlynguists. Chromeo and Daft Punk are lighting up the pop charts with music that is actually well constructed and musical, Tool have got another album on the way, and Aesop Rock is still writing and touring.

If the only thing you have to say about modern music is "Blurgh, it's shit compared to what we used to get in the old days" then may I politely ask you to grow up, and stop acting like music's version of Bill O'Reilley. There is so much great music out there to be discovered that there is no excuse for acting as if stuff like Katy Perry defines all modern music.
Good post. (no sarcasm)
 
I don't like those 3 tracks either (at all), but holy shit that is the most ridiculous generalisation I've heard for quite some time.

There is, no doubt, a lot of soulless music made with drum machines, just like there is a lot of soulless music made with guitar, bass, and drums. The fact that it is a machine has absolutely sweet fuck all to do with it. A good musician is going to use whatever tools at their disposal to create the sounds they want. Sometimes it's from a machine, sometimes it's not.

Now, I personally gravitate towards more guitar-driven rock/punk myself, but goddamn, if you've never heard a drum machine used effectively, then I feel sorry for you.




I was using a ridiculous generalization to prove a point. I agree with you, all this machinery making modern music can still be open hearted. As a matter of fact, this song that uses a loop station is one of the most beautiful songs I've heard in years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-o4qK8p-Fc
 
People who bemoan the state of current music strike me as music's equivalent of hard right social conservatives. "This thing isn't the same as how I remember things being a few decades ago, so I'm going to complain about the fact that things have changed rather than embrace the natural change and progression that occurs as part of any healthy culture."

Rock fans who bemoan the fact that rock music isn't as popular or isn't made the same way as it was in the Seventies. Rock music is supposed to be disruptive, and it's supposed to be morphing into new shapes and forms. The idea that rock music needs to sound like Zeppelin or the Stones is just conservatism, which is the antithesis of rock. If musicians want to stick an electronic beat and a dubstep drop behind their guitar riffs, then fair fucking play to them. I'd rather they do that than try and ape Led Zeppelin IV some more.

Then there are the Blues Fascists like Jack White, who think that the Blues gave us everything, and anything that isn't recorded on a fifty year old slice of analogue tape through a second hand vintage Fender amp is some kind of sacrilege. "Oh it doesn't sound the same as it did in the old days." No shit, modern technology sounds different to vacuum tubes and tape. I'd rather have modern technology, and its ability to give us everything from a new Tim Hecker album to an Infected Mushroom record, than an outdated technology that makes everything sound drier and scratchier than a camel skin blanket.

There is more amazing music being made currently than at any other time in history. Right now I'm listening to Glitch Mob at work. In a bit, I might put on Wild Light by 65daysofstatic, or maybe a bit of God Is An Astronaut. I'll go home and listen to a Steven Wilson solo album, or perhaps put on the Orchestrion album by Pat Metheny. I can listen to Sigur Ros' most recent album, and reminisce about the amazing gig of theirs I saw last year at the Eden project, or I can go for something completely different like Tim Hecker, Warpaint or Cunninlynguists. Chromeo and Daft Punk are lighting up the pop charts with music that is actually well constructed and musical, Tool have got another album on the way, and Aesop Rock is still writing and touring.

If the only thing you have to say about modern music is "Blurgh, it's shit compared to what we used to get in the old days" then may I politely ask you to grow up, and stop acting like music's version of Bill O'Reilley. There is so much great music out there to be discovered that there is no excuse for acting as if stuff like Katy Perry defines all modern music.

That's a great analogy, considering misplaced nostalgia is a huge thing among conservatives.

There are bands that do the revival thing to remind you of Led Zeppelin (Wolfmother, Rival Sons, White Denim, The White Stripes) or Black Sabbath (Christian Mistress, The Sword), and that's cool and all, but why constrict yourself to just wanting that same sound and nothing else in your auditory cortex?
 
It is more visible because there are more tools people can use to mainstreaming it. What you don't see here is true musicians are hardly supported by labels.

What are the requirements to be an artist now?
- Zero knowledge in music theory
- Zero knowledge in musical instruments
- Zero knowledge in audio and recording
- Been handsome or pretty
- Naked yourself in front of other people
- Knowledge on dancing in suggestive ways
- Love money to fill your empty life
- being a slut or idiot would work

Profit...

Over 20 years ago it was the same

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0t99WmSCM&feature=kp
 
Fun factoids for the day:

- Katy Perry trained as a gospel singer from the ages of 9-16.

- Lady Gaga started playing piano at age 4, and studied at the Cap21 conservatory after graduating high school.

- Pharell Williams played in marching bands and school bands throughout his childhood, and spent years writing and producing songs for other artists.

Dang, these modern musicians know nothing about music technique or theory.
 
Fun factoids for the day:

- Katy Perry trained as a gospel singer from the ages of 9-16.

- Lady Gaga started playing piano at age 4, and studied at the Cap21 conservatory after graduating high school.

- Pharell Williams played in marching bands and school bands throughout his childhood, and spent years writing and producing songs for other artists.

Dang, these modern musicians know nothing about music technique or theory.

It takes years to master that I-IV-V chord progression.
 
Fun factoids for the day:

- Katy Perry trained as a gospel singer from the ages of 9-16.

- Lady Gaga started playing piano at age 4, and studied at the Cap21 conservatory after graduating high school.

- Pharell Williams played in marching bands and school bands throughout his childhood, and spent years writing and producing songs for other artists.

Dang, these modern musicians know nothing about music technique or theory.

then they should be making noise records.
 
No doubt rock music is hurting these days. Can't think of any huge bands in that genre. Not new ones anyway.

At the same time I got no beef with electronic music. Never have. Maybe it's because of the influence of video games music from the start.

I'm fine with both!

edit: Katy Perry <3
 
Yeah, artists like Prince and Stevie Wonder are so old-hat with their chord substitutions :P

Compared to Classical music they're not anything special. Who the fuck cares anyway, it's still good music. A lot of my favorite music is deliberately primitive and by people who didn't know how to play an instrument 'the proper way'. I don't care if the music is hard to play or not, it's irrelevant to me.
 
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