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Mario Maker Rumor Discussion Thread
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It's a believable concept that's easy to fake. Grab some old Mario graphics, slap a hand with a stylus on top, type in MARIO MAKER, and voila it's an ad for a Mario level editor.
If they tried to fake a new Metroid or something they would have to put together convincing new promo art, a logo, etc.
EightBitNate
Member
Well the person who shopped it could have easily chose to make those different
TheUnknownForce
Member
Alright, so lemme see here.
- Poor Quality Image, used to mask any Photoshopping.
(but it could be that the user zoomed in to see that image from a larger pic or had a terrible camera)
- The source is a dubious website who sourced from 4Chan from a post in FB or something which no longer exists.
(a source has hinted it might be true, and 4Chan has correctly leaked information before, too...and if the FB post was deleted, it could be that the original source has realized what NDA he/she may have just broken or had been ninja'd)
- Generic Logo Font does not really fit with Mario
(but it does fit in part with Mario Paint's)
- The Hand is reused (but it has been reused). It is cutoff at the right moment and is supposedly pixel-perfect to a Google Image of the same hand. (if this can be shown, that might be the biggest argument against this image)
- Odd to have this setup on Thursday and not have it covered up, either
- Also odd that nearly half the banner is just ground (though it could be argued that the point is to advertise Mario Maker to those far away rather than those already in the booth).
Now, here's what works for this image.
+ Lighting and floor fixtures etc. all match the E3 location. We have not sourced this photo to any other E3 booth building photo.
+ The Smash Brothers logo and characters are lined up and shown realistically on the banners. If faked, the faker would have had to not only make the Mario Maker banner but also correctly orient the Smash images, too. Were those images present at E3 2013? (although as mentioned above, the banner does not really match those other three, which is odd, but not implausible...)
+ The idea of Mario Maker is not absurd like other fakes that are around. Also, leaks like these are not new to Nintendo (see NSMBWii a la 2009).
Honestly, unless we have proof of the hand being pixel perfect or find a source image for this photo, it is increasingly likely that this is real. And if it is real, cool. A bona fide Mario level editor would be pretty cool, and from the banner it looks like things are not just traditional Mario elements, too (stacked Goombas, winged SMB Goombas, Hammer Bro leaving pipe, etc). Are coins usually placed like that on bricks? Just remember that this is still Nintendo...it might only stick with original Super Mario Brothers tilesets.
My only concerns are whether this is not the last leak (I hope nothing else leaks for their sake) or if this was one of their major announcements (still a few left for sure I hope). I suspect Wii U eShop. If this is an NFC game, there must be a real good reason for it. And as we see, that is a Wii U stylus; unless the game is cross-platform, Mario Maker is likely a Wii U game and NOT the unannounced 3DS title.
- Poor Quality Image, used to mask any Photoshopping.
(but it could be that the user zoomed in to see that image from a larger pic or had a terrible camera)
- The source is a dubious website who sourced from 4Chan from a post in FB or something which no longer exists.
(a source has hinted it might be true, and 4Chan has correctly leaked information before, too...and if the FB post was deleted, it could be that the original source has realized what NDA he/she may have just broken or had been ninja'd)
- Generic Logo Font does not really fit with Mario
(but it does fit in part with Mario Paint's)
- The Hand is reused (but it has been reused). It is cutoff at the right moment and is supposedly pixel-perfect to a Google Image of the same hand. (if this can be shown, that might be the biggest argument against this image)
- Odd to have this setup on Thursday and not have it covered up, either
- Also odd that nearly half the banner is just ground (though it could be argued that the point is to advertise Mario Maker to those far away rather than those already in the booth).
Now, here's what works for this image.
+ Lighting and floor fixtures etc. all match the E3 location. We have not sourced this photo to any other E3 booth building photo.
+ The Smash Brothers logo and characters are lined up and shown realistically on the banners. If faked, the faker would have had to not only make the Mario Maker banner but also correctly orient the Smash images, too. Were those images present at E3 2013? (although as mentioned above, the banner does not really match those other three, which is odd, but not implausible...)
+ The idea of Mario Maker is not absurd like other fakes that are around. Also, leaks like these are not new to Nintendo (see NSMBWii a la 2009).
Honestly, unless we have proof of the hand being pixel perfect or find a source image for this photo, it is increasingly likely that this is real. And if it is real, cool. A bona fide Mario level editor would be pretty cool, and from the banner it looks like things are not just traditional Mario elements, too (stacked Goombas, winged SMB Goombas, Hammer Bro leaving pipe, etc). Are coins usually placed like that on bricks? Just remember that this is still Nintendo...it might only stick with original Super Mario Brothers tilesets.
My only concerns are whether this is not the last leak (I hope nothing else leaks for their sake) or if this was one of their major announcements (still a few left for sure I hope). I suspect Wii U eShop. If this is an NFC game, there must be a real good reason for it. And as we see, that is a Wii U stylus; unless the game is cross-platform, Mario Maker is likely a Wii U game and NOT the unannounced 3DS title.
The Dutch Slayer
Member
I would reckon this is 100% real that is also why they want a youtube affiliate program because then you can directly share a made level on youtube and download it with a link to the game back to have that level yourself.
If they implement it that way makes perfect sense!
If they implement it that way makes perfect sense!
What if you can shuffle random online levels to see how far you can get one one life? It would be like playing a new game every time.
If levels were like Pushmo/Crashmo levels where you have to be able to finish the level yourself before you can share it, the probability of every level being legit enough to play goes up a huge amount.
If Nintendo allows replays through Miiverse like NES Remix 2 and sharing levels easily, this could be gold.
If levels were like Pushmo/Crashmo levels where you have to be able to finish the level yourself before you can share it, the probability of every level being legit enough to play goes up a huge amount.
If Nintendo allows replays through Miiverse like NES Remix 2 and sharing levels easily, this could be gold.
ramoisdead
Member
Mitsubishi Mario would be the perfect equivalent for bad box art Mega Man. I would buy Mario Maker if it does have that.
Bjoern the Smexy
Member
I believe the picture is real.
I can make out nothing that alludes to photoshopping this picture, aside from the small resolution.
I can make out nothing that alludes to photoshopping this picture, aside from the small resolution.
shinra-bansho
Member
$35 seems a bit excessive, at least based on the concept implied. Yes, it could be anything and could be fake blah blah.
tali'zorah84
Member
This'd be cool as part of a game collection, sequel to Nintendoland perhaps?
I can vouch for this as well. Even have a pic lying around.
EDIT:
I'm thinking it's the other game from here, not convinced the game is Mario Maker though
It would be solid as a digital title for the 3DS or Wii U. Maybe link up the devices so I can create levels on my digital Wii U version and download them on to my 3DS so I can play them on their as well. Add more basic editing features tot he 3DS version as well. I'm also hoping they add support for downloading user created levels or worlds, and votes through Miiverse. I hop there's feature sets for Mario 1 - World. Maybe the Wii U Version can include New Super Mario Bros U features sets, and the ability to mix and match similar to NES Remix.
I sincerely hope this is not the 90 minute discussion game, and I also sincerely doubt it due to the small implications of this game. It would be a great small digital game to add tot their portfolio. I also hope this is not Miyamoto's new IP, unless this is a winder strategy for NFC use. Given the number of years he has been working on a new title, this would be a disappointment (from the probable outcome of what this game would be).
Moreover, Animal Crossing U is pretty much a give at this point, since the Animal Crossing U Plaza ends in December and the team have not been working on a game since mid last year.
I sincerely hope this is not the 90 minute discussion game, and I also sincerely doubt it due to the small implications of this game. It would be a great small digital game to add tot their portfolio. I also hope this is not Miyamoto's new IP, unless this is a winder strategy for NFC use. Given the number of years he has been working on a new title, this would be a disappointment (from the probable outcome of what this game would be).
Moreover, Animal Crossing U is pretty much a give at this point, since the Animal Crossing U Plaza ends in December and the team have not been working on a game since mid last year.
Azure Dream
Member
Not necessarily believing, but they showed off their Nintendo Web Framework last year via a Mario vs Donkey Kong demo. If this was actually a thing, it strikes me as something very similar to what they did with that demo.
Of course, if it's a shop, then it doesn't really matter what it looks like.
Of course, if it's a shop, then it doesn't really matter what it looks like.
FrostuTheNinja
Member
I would completely lose my shit if it was a 3D World level editor. But it won't be. :/
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Deleted member 1235
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I'd be interested, but I'm as unimaginative as all shit. What I'd love is a heavily moderated one, that nintendo themselves looks at the best content that the community votes on and somehow makes a 'nintendo selected' cream of the crop of user content. Because let's face it, some of them are going to be terrible.
Vampirolol
Member
I'm not the biggest fan of editor modes, but I gues that some people are going to make awesome levels.
Yup that's what I thought. It was there before the Pokemon Remakes even. Was surprised to see it the next day still there. Honestly only thing I can think of that Nintendo could spend 90 mins is something with Earthbound for 3DS. Be it a collection or a Mother3DS/Earthbound 2. This Mario game if true is Wii U.
Make levels on Wii U, play them on 3ds too!
Rodney McKay
Member
Yeah, I can see this being true. A small, user content powered Mario Maker. Maybe on e-shop, but I'd imagine they'd put it in retail too, as long as it has enough built in stages for a small 2D Mario game.
The NSMB series has just done nothing for me over the last few years (gameplay-wise and especially aesthetically), so maybe a throwback with user created levels is what I need to get back into 2D Mario games. I will say that if there's some kind of NFC requirement where I need to buy figures or some shit, that would turn me off of the game instantly, but if it was something like scanning another persons NFC object to get their levels, that might be OK.
The NSMB series has just done nothing for me over the last few years (gameplay-wise and especially aesthetically), so maybe a throwback with user created levels is what I need to get back into 2D Mario games. I will say that if there's some kind of NFC requirement where I need to buy figures or some shit, that would turn me off of the game instantly, but if it was something like scanning another persons NFC object to get their levels, that might be OK.
Party Popper
Member
I think those are NFC figures. Could be?
Masked Man
I said wow
I think this is a brilliant idea. It's a great way to promote the sharing of user-generated content.
HUELEN10
Member
so do i. it sounds delicious.
this is a real biggie for me. nintendo's booths usually have a sort of entrance area in the front. there are also side exits, but one heads off into no man's land and the other goes to the sony booth. the back exit heads to the exit of the actual hall (to where the loading trucks are).
if they're trying to get anyone's attention, it would probably be for the giant 'nintendo' sign, rendering something like this useless. and it's a pretty uninspired image with a fairly difficult to read logo to get people into the booth. plus, shouldn't they be using a zelda or smash bros. as the main promotion? why would smash bros. be hidden?
companies do illogical things all the time, but this image is made to look a very specific way, so that we see the mario maker image first and nothing else important.
I hope, if it is real, it allows you to use sprites and physics from all the NES/SNES Mario games.
I would much rather play a user-created level in Super Mario World, or SMB3.
It would be cool if this became a franchise, or started to be included in new Mario games. 3D World seemed perfect for user-created levels.
I would much rather play a user-created level in Super Mario World, or SMB3.
It would be cool if this became a franchise, or started to be included in new Mario games. 3D World seemed perfect for user-created levels.
That wouldn't exactly be my cup of tea (and I certainly wouldn't want it to be the 3DS roundtable game), but I can see how this is long overdue. So it makes sense to promote it. But please have another big unannounced 3DS game ready for this year, Nintendo 
How about some MM 3D?
How about some MM 3D?Azure Dream
Member
20 minute video over a single leaked image that might not even be real, wow.
GameXplain is awesome. And I mean that sincerely.
Regarding "Mario Maker," it's funny how this title has floated around the Internet forever. The image makes it look like it will use assets from SMB1... They're simple and iconic, so it's not surprising, but I'm hoping for a variety of styles, I.E. All-Stars, World, etc. Taken to its extreme, maybe they'd even let us design 3D courses. Unlikely, but it's a nice idea.
This seems like the sort of title they'd exhibit for the press at a roundtable discussion. Perhaps it will be the focal point of the talk for the unnamed 3DS title.
dark_inferno
Member
I think this is real. After the Retro Game Collection this could be the next step for Nintendo. And i dont know if they made different Levels for the Mario games from the Retro Game but if they did that it wouldnt be a surprise if they made a whole game about making Mario levels.
bobbychalkers
Member
This is my guess as well provided that this is legit. Its a game I never knew I wanted.
Storm Kyleis
Member
Yes, every other image was already known. If it's fake, my guess is someone with actual access to the booths took a real photo and photoshopped in the Mario Maker banner. Then he simply took a photo of the photo to blur it out.
What I find rather odd, is that Nintendo is always very secretive about game reveals. The only legitimate leak I remember from the past E3s was this:
You can see through the curtain... but at least there was a curtain. They should try to hide their announcements.
Why would they leave Mario Maker out there in plain sight? And if they really did, why don't we have more photos?
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That's a terrible hand, it's been stretched so look at the size of that thumb! Very un-Nintendolike. I say fake.
casinoman921
Member
If it's real, I could see Nintendo releasing sequels like Mario Maker 2 for SMB2, MM3 for SMB3, etc. Kind of what I expect them to do for the Remix series.
GhostTrick
Banned
If it's real, I just hope it's a 3 to 5 minutes announcement in the Direct and not the 1h long roundtable one
illmatic24
Banned
It sounds cool if it's real. I just hope it's not only in the NES art style. Would be nice to switch between them if possible.