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[NeonZ]

Didn't stop Lucas, Ness, Toon Link and Link to have shared FS though.

And yes, it's just a final smash. It's even "tweaked". It's more than I can say to someone like say, Falco or Toon Link.

I can't remember about Toon Link's, but Falco's is tweaked mechanically too, it just doesn't have its own skin, unlike Wolf's. Still, Toon Link also is the character who seems to reuse the most from his counterpart in Brawl.

Also, all of those other characters still reuse animations and attacks from other character too, not only the Final Smash. Wolf doesn't reuse any of Fox's animations aside from the Final Smash, their special attacks are only conceptually similar. It's only the Final Smash that's straight ripped from Fox.

 

[theprodigy]

Actually, I think Sakurai, Master Troll®, will post something extra hype, like a returning veteran, so people will still be talking about it hours later during Sony's press conference.

Yeah that's not gonna work

 

[Boss Doggie]

I can't remember Toon Link's, but Falco's is tweaked mechanically too, it just doesn't have its own skin, unlike Wolf's.

Also, all of those other characters still reuse animations and attacks from other character too, not only the Final Smash. Wolf doesn't reuse any of Fox's animations aside from the Final Smash, their special attacks are only conceptually similar. It's only the Final Smash that's straight ripped from Fox.

TL is the same as Link but with less power more kb I think

And like I said that doesn't make him incomplete. With that said Lucas has unique moves.

 

[Save 'N Quit]

Puffball and Mew clone say no to any Hoenn pokemon.

 

[Troubled Bat]

That video made me laugh so damn much. Lol.

 

[Neiteio]

Swolepert looks amazing. He can't wipe his own ass, and he probably waddles when he walks, but gee whiz, I want him in Smash.

He has a strong silhouette, what Guillermo del Toro once described as the most important feature of good creature design. I love it!

 

[IAmArique]

July. Believe.

Oh, I believe alright. Especially since GameStop is saying that it'll be out the 2nd week of July.

(Kinda hoping it's released on a Sunday since 1) I'm working on Saturday nights and don't get out until after 11 PM, and 2) I'm going to Outer Banks with the family the same week that Smash 4 3DS is supposedly being released and I would love to have it in my hands for the ride there.)

 

[L00P]

Do you guys think they'll include a new non-starter pokemon as a fighter in this game? Zoroark, maybe? I'm just saying that because it was featured in a pokemon movie

 

[Beelzebufo]

Oh, I believe alright. Especially since GameStop is saying that it'll be out the 2nd week of July.

(Kinda hoping it's released on a Sunday since 1) I'm working on Saturday nights and don't get out until after 11 PM, and 2) I'm going to Outer Banks with the family the same week that Smash 4 3DS is supposedly being released and I would love to have it in my hands for the ride there.)

Did they change that soon after? It says the end of the year now.

Do you guys think they'll include a new non-starter pokemon as a fighter in this game? Zoroark, maybe? I'm just saying that because it was featured in a pokemon movie

Nah. I think the unlockable pokemon we'll get are Mewtwo and Jigglypuff. An even six, just like last time!


Also, for what it's worth, my E3 predictions:
1. Direct shows Pacman, Shulk, Ice Climbers, Wario, and Meta Knight
2. Sakurai faces off against the winner of one of the tournaments with Mii, a new character!
3. Mii (and other customizable elements) are covered in the developer roundtable.

We'll also definitely get a release date for the 3DS version, which I want to say will come out at the beginning of august at the latest. I think most (if not all) starting elements for the 3DS version will be revealed, along with the WiiU version's exclusive gameplay mode.

 

[theprodigy]

Do you guys think they'll include a new non-starter pokemon as a fighter in this game? Zoroark, maybe? I'm just saying that because it was featured in a pokemon movie

Doubt it

 

[Troubled Bat]

Ganondorf will be shown.

 

[Anth0ny]

I can't wait for the pac man reveal.

"Is pac man still relevant?"

"No one cares about pac man"

"Does Nintendo think people are going to buy Wii Us because they got Pac Man into Smash bros? LOL"

 

[IntelliHeath]

No new mode
No new stage
No new Item (Including pokeballs, assist trophies, CDs and Stickers but not Collectible Trophies)
No Character revealed.
No new mechanics and no explanation of mechanics.

I'm not sure about that.

I can't wait for the pac man reveal.

"Is pac man still relevant?"

"No one cares about pac man"

"Does Nintendo think people are going to buy Wii Us because they got Pac Man into Smash bros? LOL"

Ugh, I'm not looking forward for those whiners.

 

[KHlover]

I can't wait for the pac man reveal.

"Is pac man still relevant?"

"No one cares about pac man"

"Does Nintendo think people are going to buy Wii Us because they got Pac Man into Smash bros? LOL"

Wait for the reveal? That has been literally any Pacman discussion we've ever had here

Spoiler

#teamGTFOpacman

 

[NeonZ]

Do you guys think they'll include a new non-starter pokemon as a fighter in this game? Zoroark, maybe? I'm just saying that because it was featured in a pokemon movie

Pokemon had a new unique unlockable character in all games so far, (Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, Lucario), so it wouldn't be surprising.

I can't wait for the pac man reveal.

It'll be interesting to see Pacman confirmed. It's one thing to include a Nintendo character like Game & Watch due to its historical value, but licensing a third party character just due to historical importance rather than fanservice seems really odd.

 

[Neiteio]

I bet Sakurai could come up with a sweet Hawlucha moveset.

 

[TheChits]

I can't wait for the pac man reveal.

"Is pac man still relevant?"

"No one cares about pac man"

"Does Nintendo think people are going to buy Wii Us because they got Pac Man into Smash bros? LOL"

I am extremely interested in seeeing how pac man plays.

 

[Kriken]

Ugh, I'm not looking forward for those whiners.

Anth0ny forgot the major complaint:
"They put Pac Man in over Ridley? Fuck you Nintendo, I'm selling my Wii U now"

 

[GamerSoul]

The big problem with Blaziken is his legs.

It looks like he's wearing a 70's disco outfit à la Saturday Night Fever.

But it's Blaziken so it can get away with that. nuff said. And who doesn't like some BeeGees every now and then?

This video is pretty old, but in case anyone hasn't seen it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5825Wu0WjA

I would be screaming like crazy if that happened to me.

that was beautiful lol

 

[Beelzebufo]

Do you think we'll get a last-minute new Gematsu leak Monday, like we did right before the direct?

 

[theprodigy]

Anth0ny forgot the major complaint:
"They put Pac Man in over Ridley? Fuck you Nintendo, I'm selling my Wii U now"

lmao of course

 

[PreyingShark]

I can't wait for the pac man reveal.

"Is pac man still relevant?"

"No one cares about pac man"

"Does Nintendo think people are going to buy Wii Us because they got Pac Man into Smash bros? LOL"

"They're just copying SFxT at this point. What unoriginal losers."

 

[Troubled Bat]

Give me Ms. Pac-Man.

 

[Spinluck]

This video is pretty old, but in case anyone hasn't seen it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5825Wu0WjA

I would be screaming like crazy if that happened to me.

My brother showed me this a while back. So good lol.

 

[Mista Koo]

Someone made this mock up after E3 last year, and I thought it was pretty good:

Especially that .Exe scheme. Though, now that he's part of his Final Smash, I guess that's less likely to happen.

I made these last time:

Although I guess I would make them less samey.

 

[Cody_D165]

No matter what they decide on, after seeing these mockups it's obvious that Mega Man's palette swaps are going to be so, so good.

 

[Caladrius]

I'm not sure about that.

Well, yeah. I'm not one of those idiots that would make a serious bet where the odds were completely stacked against him.

Even as it stands I only win the bet if the picture is

A: A Character or group of characters standing around
B: A zoomed-out view of an old stage (If there's new information about an old stage, I lose)
C: It's a trophy.

 

[FlynnCL]

I would like another Pokemon reveal. Blaziken would be good as... he's just awesome. I don't really have a favourite among grass-type Pokemon, and I wouldn't want one in just because they're grass-type.

There definitely needs to be another Fire Emblem representative--they're always so unique to play because of their focus on fundamentals. Little Mac reminds me of that, too. I'm not so much a fan of Pac-Man making it in, even though I believe he should deserve the recognition. I just don't like his design, and I think Bandai Namco have a plethora of other characters with better move-set potential.

Oh, and gimme another retro representative Sakurai! It's pretty exciting that there's still newcomer reveals to go... I assume another 4-6 including Palutena, but I don't have much idea what to really expect so Sakurai will surprise me no matter.

 

[Neiteio]

Pac-Man is going to be awesome.

Mario, Pac-Man, Sonic and Mega Man in the same game...

Think about it. That's incredible!

Or the arcade alternative:

Mario, Pac-Man, DK and Little Mac.

If you love gaming, you've gotta love Pac-Man in Smash!

 

[Cody_D165]

Pac-Man is going to be awesome.

Mario, Pac-Man, Sonic and Mega Man in the same game...

Think about it. That's incredible!

Or the arcade alternative:

Mario, Pac-Man, DK and Little Mac.

If you love gaming, you've gotta love Pac-Man in Smash!

This is the view I hold. Pac-Man doesn't get the respect he deserves these days.

And come on, if he does get in, you know Sakurai is going to do him justice. Look at Mega Man for Christ's sake! He's perfect!

 

[Save 'N Quit]

I can't wait for the pac man reveal.

"Is pac man still relevant?"

"No one cares about pac man"

"Does Nintendo think people are going to buy Wii Us because they got Pac Man into Smash bros? LOL"

I would rather have X character instead of lame Pac-man

That's going to be my input depending on whether or not they show a playable Ridley.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Well, yeah. I'm not one of those idiots that would make a serious bet where the odds were completely stacked against him.

Even as it stands I only win the bet if the picture is

A: A Character or group of characters standing around
B: A zoomed-out view of an old stage (If there's new information about an old stage, I lose)
C: It's a trophy.

I'm concerned about several things because they could present items or assist trophies that haven't formally announced (like Smash Direct or after Direct pictures) but we already know that they were in the games.

Also what if trophy disconfirmed something important?

 

[Kyzer]

I think Pac Man would be a cool AT

 

[J-Tier]

Mario, Sonic, Megaman and Not-Snake will be incredible.

Spoiler

Not joking though, I think Pac-Man is great. I would be ecstatic to see him stand beside the other three

.

 

[Caladrius]

I'm concerned about several things because they could present items or assist trophies that haven't formally announced (like Smash Direct or after Direct pictures) but we already know that they were in the games.

Also what if trophy disconfirmed something important?

Those would count as old information, unless they said something about how they work

If the trophy deconfirms an important or popular character, I lose. "Important characters" would include major heroes, villains, and recurring characters such as Tingle and Anna (Fire Emblem). If the trophy deconfirms a possible item, I lose.

 

[MrSaturn99]

Swolepert looks amazing. He can't wipe his own ass, and he probably waddles when he walks, but gee whiz, I want him in Smash.

He has a strong silhouette, what Guillermo del Toro once described as the most important feature of good creature design. I love it!

I actually like to think he runs around like Giga Mac. Shit's pretty scary when you think about it.

 

[SuperSah]

So what modes do we think are returning and will 3DS also gain more exclusive modes?

I'd like to see the Homerun Contest return.

Also, I hope the waiting room for online is similar to that of KIU and SSBB.

 

[SliceSabre]

So what modes do we think are returning and will 3DS also gain more exclusive modes?

I'd like to see the Homerun Contest return.

Also, I hope the waiting room for online is similar to that of KIU and SSBB.

Break the Targets and Homerun Contest.

Oh and Coin Launcher if only because I fell absolutely in love with the music that played.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

I'm sure we'll also learn how the two versions connect at E3. I'm wondering if it'll involve the NFC for Wii U.

 

[Neiteio]

I actually like to think he runs around like Giga Mac. Shit's pretty scary when you think about it.

Mega Swampert probably moves like a gorilla, galloping along on his brawny forearms.

Mega Swampert is so cool. <3

 

[OricWindstar]

I made these last time:

Although I guess I would make them less samey.

Man, those look great too! Mega Man just has so much potential, and a lot of it can be achieved with just a simple palette swap.

 

[SuperSah]

Man, how much sense would it be to remake Pirate Ship for 3DS?

The 3D and the art style would blend AMAZINGLY.

What number one stage do you guys want your platform of choice and why?

 

[Tyeforce]

 

[RomanceDawn]

Hey does anyone know what day, time and exactly where the Smash round table and discussion is going to be held? Just want to know, no particular reason why...

 

[MrSaturn99]

Man, how much sense would it be to remake Pirate Ship for 3DS?

The 3D and the art style would blend AMAZINGLY.

What number one stage do you guys want your platform of choice and why?

Something tells me they'll just keep Melee stages to 3DS, but who knows?

Anyway, plz Onett. Either platform is fine.

 

[SuperSah]

Something tells me they'll just keep Melee stages to 3DS, but who knows?

Anyway, plz Onett. Either platform is fine.

That would suck. I think they should mix it up.

Pls, Pirate Ship would work beautifully on 3DS. It's also such a fun stage all round.

 

[Kjellson]

It's a tradition!

 

[Kriken]

It's a tradition!

It'll be more of a tradition when the remake is announced on Tuesday

Spoiler

I can dream ;_;

 

[MrSaturn99]

That would suck. I think they should mix it up.

Pls, Pirate Ship would work beautifully on 3DS. It's also such a fun stage all round.

It's just a theory. I'd love to have it come back, Wii U or 3DS.

 

[SuperSah]

It's just a theory. I'd love to have it come back, Wii U or 3DS.

What makes you feel that way?