That's a low bar.
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Final Fantasy Type-0 HD coming to PS4/Xbox One (no Vita), Agito coming too (iOS/And)
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That's a low bar.
Evil Monkey DTT
Banned
Couldn't be happier! I wanted to play type-0 for awhile but I never thought it was actually coming happening. And for vita/console, eh I'm personally fine playing the game on my big screen. As long as I get to play it I'm happy.
I doubt anyone would be disappointed with the second options you listed. If they are really remaking the game for PS4 and Xbox1 it can't run on a vita but the original translated would have been fine since that is what people were asking for anyway. An hd remake is completely out of left field.
It appears to have brand new assets so it is much closer to a remake than a remaster.
It's not a port, but its status is probably best explained by someone who has played both games. I believe it's kind of an alternate take/prequel on the subject matter Type-0 tackles.
If you read an earlier post of mine, you'd see how I was a bit disappointed that Type-0 was missing Vita, yet happy it was on PS4. I bought FFX HD on both Vita and PS3. And while having it on a portable with suspend/resume is useful, it felt like such a downgrade going from the PS3 to Vita version in terms of both audio and visual quality.
Now Type-0 was designed as a portable game. So the benefit from going to PS4 on top of a hypothetical Vita version while great, wouldn't be massively so even I would want it. FFXII is a huge and expansive game, and a small screen wouldn't do it justice, nor would I want how far they could enhance the game to be limited, hence why I don't even want a PS3 version. I want it to be made in as much glory as possible without Vita or PS3 hindering it
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
An XBLA/PSN release of Type-O would be really silly.
No way is S-E going to charge $20 or less for this game.
They need a big release because they know that otherwise they'll have absolutely nothing for years.
I expect physical/digital along with an LE of some sort.
A full-on remake would also be kinda absurd. I'm sure TYP0 HD will look and run far better than the PSP version, but it won't get a slew of entirely new assets or anything.
No way is S-E going to charge $20 or less for this game.
They need a big release because they know that otherwise they'll have absolutely nothing for years.
I expect physical/digital along with an LE of some sort.
A full-on remake would also be kinda absurd. I'm sure TYP0 HD will look and run far better than the PSP version, but it won't get a slew of entirely new assets or anything.
Shadow Ranger
Member
Complete lack of info to say right now. If it's a complete remake then this could well take a while. FFX HD a while or more. Which will once again put SE right back in the position of announcing too soon. Hopefully it will actually release fairly soon as a good stop gap before XV...fingers crossed?
Certainly they'd show more at TGS - it's the perfect place. I'm not sure if they have their own events or smaller Japanese events before that where they could also show it, but they could pretty much follow how they showcased the original PSP game way back when.
In a way, I also hope they just skip English VA just to get it out sooner/cheaper (like ToH is going for) but then again since it's a remake they probably want to do it properly. In which case add more monsters, please! Got a bit boring fighting the same looking thing over and over and over. Perfect time to add polish and content.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Oh!
CamHostage
Member
But the opposite is true. Square was absolutely not pretending that Type-0 didn't exist, they were insinuating that it was too important to just release to the rest of the world if it was not going to be a blockbuster as it was in Japan. It's a huge game with massive production values, just dumping it out in a PSP PSN translation or even a Vita upres would not do Square the value. They want to handle this as a massive release, and they are finally doing so, just not in the way people expected.
Pretty much. If anyone could point out an official campaign supporting Type-0 on the same level as #JRPGVita, then I'd like to see it.
It's been a noble effort, as a Vita owner I appreciate it (and am hopeful that some of the gambles like Over My Dead Body and Tales R localizations are profitable,) but that Twitter campaign matters greatly to you because you were inside it. Let's not pretend that this is the only place where Square got the idea that people wanted Type-0. The larger Final Fantasy community was plenty eager to see this 'lost' game come over.
And let's not kid ourselves that Square didn't think of it until rainfall petitions came in. Square Enix says that we're seeing this game due to an "incredible outpouring of fan support", but the real reason we're seeing it is because they looked at the release calendar, looked at the assets available and engine analysis, did a little math, and made it happen.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Nothing wrong with having faith. I hope you folks are right. I just don't believe you are seeing as how it almost never happens. FF is popular, yes, but Type-0 is still kind of a niche game in the series, at least in the U.S. I mean, if FF is so popular to be released on disc, where's Crisis Core HD or any other FF portable game on disc? I think It'd be more realistic to say it would be on disc in the U.S. if it were a collection.
But hey, we're just going in circles like someone earlier said because we don't know. I'm going by what history of the current (PS4/XBO) and past gen has shown us.
But again, would love you to prove me wrong on this.
Edit: If it's a complete remake and not just an HD version, then I'm more inclined to believe a disc version.
Be prepared for Digital River!!
Anyway, retooling/porting from PS3/4 To Vita is apparently easy as pie. Its not the porting(no crystal tools here) that costs, its the marketing.
Of topic:
Hi Kagari, sorry to bug but have you tried the new classes FFXIV?
ArkhamFantasy
Member
My gut says it will be a 40 dollar game physical/digital. Im a little afraid they will take a long time like they did with FFX HD though, this thing needs to come out in the next 6-12 months.
Argh I hope not. Have wanted 12 HD for years and don't want to buy a PS4 now. Don't care about type-0 since I think it's a bad game but Square pls ;_;
Alternatively they could have released the psp game translated on the vita in advance to get people hyped for the remake on the ps4 since I am sure it will take a couple of years to make the hd version. Looking at Shahid twitter tells me something else is going on here. https://twitter.com/shahidkamal/status/476455102933258240 This says it all to me.
Well this doesn't bode well. Kagari can you say if a Vita version was planned at some point?
Shadow Ranger
Member
Sweet!
UberTag
Member
Does that mean we also shouldn't expect much of a release delay?
Because I was expecting an FFX HD treatment and a release in 12-18 months at the absolute earliest.
Granted, not optimizing the game and releasing it on PS4 / Xbone exclusively only to be savaged by the Western media for looking ugly doesn't strike me as a wise decision.
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ArkhamFantasy
Member
It shouldn't need much right? It's a PSP game.
Good.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Not questioning you, but is there a source that confirms this for North American release?
Nice
Femmeworth
Banned
Oh god.
Hey Kagari
What do you mean by this?
That's awesome.
In regards to the Vita announcement, and then de-announcement, was that a genuine error?
Was it planned, then abruptly cancelled? What's the story on this?
What do you mean by this?
That's awesome.
In regards to the Vita announcement, and then de-announcement, was that a genuine error?
Was it planned, then abruptly cancelled? What's the story on this?
LowParry
Member
Good. Goooooood. I want my PS4 library to look hot!
I am the source.
bigbaldwolf86
Banned
Probably means don't expect brand new assets or anything. It'll probably look about as good as the PC emulator makes it look.
Which is pretty nice all things considered.
RedAssedApe
Banned
how long are we looking at for a port? iirc english localization for psp was pretty much done when they cancelled it right? this shouldn't be more than a year out i hope?
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are you asking specifically about a physical release or that its getting released at all? SE and PS Blog already confirmed the latter obviously
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are you asking specifically about a physical release or that its getting released at all? SE and PS Blog already confirmed the latter obviously
So what's with the image in the OP?
It shows much improved character models, textures and effects.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Fair enough. I forgot about your website so this is good news and I'm glad to be wrong. Will be getting this for sure now.
Are there? I thought PS4 had already gone past Vita? Or at least it was pretty close in April or May already.
Also, it doesn't matter what the situation is now. The number of PS4 & Xbone owners will continue grow at a vastly faster rate than Vita's install base. As I said, it's likely that the combined sales of both PS4 & Xbone will be in the range of 25-30 million by the time Type-0 HD releases (which I'm assuming is, at earliest, about a year from now, probably longer) if not even more if they both have an extremely successful Fall/Holiday season.
Xbone doesn't matter in Japan, but even if it's lagging behind PS4 in hardware sales, software is still doing pretty well on it outside Japan, certainly well enough to consider quick & dirty ports when they are already doing it on similar hardware.
And PS4 struggling in Japan is perhaps one of the strongest reasons to do this for PS4 rather than Vita. They need to build up the Japanese install-base of the consoles for FFXV and beyond. The success of FFXV is actually important for the future of Square Enix and console JRPGs in general.
You do know that a big portion of those PSV owners are probably likely future PS4 and/or Xbone owners (if a lot of them don't already own one of them or both) and those Vita campaigns got a lot of support from non-Vita owners?
Most people I know just wanted it localized. Vita was kind assumed as a strong possibility due to the game's past as a PSP game, but they would've been just as happy with a 3DS or PS360 port or, now, with a PS4/XBone remake. The game will be the best it can be on PS4 & Xbone, so I don't see any reason to complain.
Sure, but as I pointed out above, this is clearly also a move from Square Enix to build up the JPRG/FF fanbase on PS4. By releasing Type-0 HD on PS4Bone, they can sell a nice number of copies of Type-0 while giving PS4 sales in Japan a nice little boost that will help FFXV's sales later on. It's a similar reason as to why Konami released MGS:GZ now. MGS5 & FFXV are such huge productions that they need to sell well in all regions. They can't let the anemic Japanese console market get to them, so they need to come up with ways they can help CPR the market until they can release those games.
Type-0 HD isn't releasing tomorrow. This is irrelevant. In a year or 1,5 or however long this will take to make, PS4 & Xbone sales will quite likely be at least 3-4x Vita's sales.
Vita is dead while PS4 & Xbone will be important for Square Enix for the next 5+ years since they are releasing FFXV, KHIII and hopefully a multitude of other games for both platforms within the next few years. That's all the reason they need to put it on PS4Bone instead of Vita.
Shpuld we expect something worse than the FFX(-2) HD PS3 version?
ok you know what, all you people trying to downplay the vita/psp movement for this, time to put up or shut up. Give some examples of this plethora of non jrpgvita and psp ff type 0 movement people pushing Square for localization. Hard examples, not vapor pulled from asses.
This is simple, Square didn't feel the audience was big enough to localize the game so they are pulling their multiplatform strategy. And they get the bonus of saying "Hey look Vita owners, just get a PS4 and you can remote play there you go guys, love us!?" It's not that hard to understand whats going on, but this nonsense of downplaying the Vita/PSP audience who fought tooth and nail for this game or calling them entitled is a bunch of horseshit.
Judge Kagari, coming to a mobile phone near you, 2014.
cj_iwakura
Member
Not very excited. Forcing this to next gen is a dick move.
Well, yeah. A Vita port seemed like the path of least resistance to releasing the game over here, and that's why people defaulted to that possibility. The game released in 2011, has been in localization hell since then, and the Vita represented a glimmer of hope for an eventual Western release.
But now, not only has SE announced that they're actually bringing Type-0 over, they'e also remastering it for the PS4/X1. That's amazing. Who could have possibly expected they'd go that far for this game, when it was never guaranteed they'd ever localize it at all?
Seriously, that counts as "vastly exceeding expectations" in my book.