Screaming Meat
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That isn't the issue. The guy was a complete dick about it.
MGSV: THE PHANTOM PAIN - E3 2014 Trailer (jp) [up: English]
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That isn't the issue. The guy was a complete dick about it.
Would have to buy a PS3 for that, unfortunately. Do you know if this collection is playable without the first game?
Haha.
HOLY SHIT I FIGURED IT OUT!
At the end of the Red Band trailer for MGSV when we see Big Boss shooting 3 or 4 soldiers in the head. Those soldiers are his own! Something must happen where Snake flips and loses it and kills one of his soldiers, the body thats already on the ground at the end of the scene that we see when the camera moves to the right. The other soldiers all gather around and hold him back and when the alarm goes off he shoots them all in the head. You can tell something is not right with him at that moment and the real big red flag is the fact that he shoots them point blank. When has Snake ever shot someone he didn't have too, especially kill them like that.
This is obviously the point when Big Boss finally becomes the villain.
At the end of the Red Band trailer for MGSV when we see Big Boss shooting 3 or 4 soldiers in the head. Those soldiers are his own! Something must happen where Snake flips and loses it and kills one of his soldiers, the body thats already on the ground at the end of the scene that we see when the camera moves to the right. The other soldiers all gather around and hold him back and when the alarm goes off he shoots them all in the head. You can tell something is not right with him at that moment and the real big red flag is the fact that he shoots them point blank. When has Snake ever shot someone he didn't have too, especially kill them like that.
This is obviously the point when Big Boss finally becomes the villain.
Yep, just noticed that - edited my post just as you guys replied.
The HD collection would be fine. From my previous post:
The canon timeline is:
MGS3
Portable Ops
Peace Walker
MGSV: GZ
MGSV: TPP
MG
MG2
MGS
MGS2
MGS4
So ideally you'll want to play anything set before TPP to understand the plot. There are things that lead to happenings in the other games, but they're not directly needed to understand or enjoy TPP. Although you should play them all eventually, it's a great series.
Zambatoh
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Actually he calls himself that nickname in MGS1, if you survive the torture long enough.
He also briefly mentions Afghanistan, implying that is where he got the nickname from to begin with.
Thanks. I found one YouTube that's like 5 hours long, is that about the right length?
Still doesn't explain the zombie like last dude he puts a bullet in. Kojima isn't so lazy as to not make that guy have a reason for doing nothing while under attack. My guess is they are under some sort of mind control and BB knows they are fucked. Even the guys holding him seem mindless in their effort. He figures he just has to put them out of their misery and it probably fucks him up even more so. Putting down a dog situation. A...diamond dog.
Love Deterrence
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I should have done a better job at mashing that circle button, yeah? Good catch!
Spring-Loaded
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FantasticMrFoxdie
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BOOM SHALASHASKA
This was definitely weak in terms of what I expect from an MGS trailer. Its cut weird or something.
I love the music and I liked what I saw from the scenes but I just wish it was done differently. Oh well. Its not like Im not already hyped for the game
I was secretly hoping to hear more of Donna Burke. I love Sins of the Father so much.
I love the music and I liked what I saw from the scenes but I just wish it was done differently. Oh well. Its not like Im not already hyped for the game
I was secretly hoping to hear more of Donna Burke. I love Sins of the Father so much.
I honestly don't remember how long all the cutscenes are but that seems right.
LOL at that last line, nice. But maybe your right and these are his own soldiers being used against him and having to kill some or most his allies plus everyone dying at the end of ground zeroes puts him over the edge.
Love Deterrence
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Kojima is holding interviews right now (according to his Japanese Twitter account), so hopefully we get some new details later on!
The Scollard
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That was such an awesome trailer. I am definitely looking forward to Phantom Pain. Also, is it just me, or does MGS know exactly what to do with it's music to make it have the most awesome effects. I mean, there was Here's to You from Ground Zeroes, Sins of the Father from the Red Band trailer, and now Nuclear, and of course, the entire soundtrack of MGR (I know it's Platinum, but seriously, both series have some of the greatest uses of music in Video Game History).
Also, is BB working with Skull Face. That seems interesting, and I'm looking forward to seeing more of the villain.
And now I'm depressed because I mentioned Skull Face and Ground Zeroes. Man, that game was depressing.
Also, is BB working with Skull Face. That seems interesting, and I'm looking forward to seeing more of the villain.
And now I'm depressed because I mentioned Skull Face and Ground Zeroes. Man, that game was depressing.
Yeah, hopefully the meeting is about how they'll show the public because press only is foolish c:
For those who are wondering what Shalashaska means, it is Russian slang word for the word prison. For example, instead of saying prison, we would say slammer. Shalashaska apparently has that same meaning.
I found it on the internet, so it must be true.
Nice!
With the press you just have to realize nobody knows what they're talking about when it comes to metal gear.
I know the Greg Miller thing came up when he didn't know who Eli was but know one else is any better. Brad Shoemaker and Patrick Klepek thought that Mother Base was the Big Shell. Brad also thought that Punished Snake was a different clone possibly. Jeff Gerstmann thinks that Solid Snake was Big Boss' former code name. He also thinks for some reason that Big Boss games are "less crazy" than anything with Solid Snake.
So my point is just don't pay attention to most things the press have to say when it comes to Metal Gear's story. It's a huge, convulated story that most people don't have time to understand. ( Yeah all my examples were Giant Bomb related I know.)
I know the Greg Miller thing came up when he didn't know who Eli was but know one else is any better. Brad Shoemaker and Patrick Klepek thought that Mother Base was the Big Shell. Brad also thought that Punished Snake was a different clone possibly. Jeff Gerstmann thinks that Solid Snake was Big Boss' former code name. He also thinks for some reason that Big Boss games are "less crazy" than anything with Solid Snake.
So my point is just don't pay attention to most things the press have to say when it comes to Metal Gear's story. It's a huge, convulated story that most people don't have time to understand. ( Yeah all my examples were Giant Bomb related I know.)
Well, that makes sense, but I was hoping the V also stood for virtual. So that it would go in line with the theory that MGS V is all a simulation being played out by someone who is being brainwashed to believe they are the one and only BB (AKA Snake and Bake).
Sub_Level
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Oh I haven't forgotten how much I dislike MGS4, but we will temporarily form a hype train alliance for Phantom Pain.
barneystuta83
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I've played some of the Metal Gear Games that fit the mainline story (except for MGS 4, Peace Walker, and Portable Ops).
I found this series reminded me of some of the details from the games I played and obviously spoilt the others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=778Sr8ePnWc (this is just the first video, there are a number of different parts.
There are lots of similar videos, I found this the best for me. It doesn't claim to be the definitive everything you must know (there will always be nods to big fans of the series), however it covers the main plot points that link the games together.
My opinion? If you can access the games, do so. If you are you are unable to, then it is worth filling in some of the gaps with a series of Youtube videos like this.
plasmawave
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So where does Punished Snake fit into all of this? Did they scrap him?
Love Deterrence
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I think that was just a cover to reveal "V has come to." being connected to Venom! ;-)
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STILLethal
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Maybe it wasnt even a codename, just saying that Snake was punished with everything that happended?
Or Punished is his GZ codename and Venom is his PP codename?
MrS
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Scrapping him was his punishment
Screaming Meat
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ComputerMKII
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But what does the Venom Snake thing even mean? Is it a different person? Why is he not called Big Boss?
CreeperBlocks
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I think the most confusing thing in that trailer is Skull Face wearing the eye patch. And i'm guessing that facility is
I mean the old base was blown sky high and its only safe to assume that's
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Outer Heaven?
Outer Heaven
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Step 1
Read the wikipedia pages for Metal Gear and then Metal Gear 2. Should take you like 10 minutes. Step 2
Watch the original 1998 MGS cutscenes on youtube. Like around 4 hours or so, maybe more. If you have already done this then awesome. Step 3
Buy the HD Collection for 360. Play Sons of Liberty. Then play Snake Eater. Then play Peace Walker. In that order. Optional Step
Watch the MGS4 cutscenes on youtube. This will give added context to the story. Step 4
Buy Ground Zeroes for Xbox One. Play it. Step 5
You are now ready for Phantom Pain.Not an eyepatch. Look closer!
Love Deterrence
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No footage from the trailers this year spoil GZ.
AuthenticM
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Don't play Peace Walker; it's incredibly mediocre. Just watch the cutscenes on Youtube.
You'll already be playing through several Metal Gear games, so you don't want to burn yourself out anyway.
TheLostBigBoss
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I share the same sentiment.
I will never forget, but will look forward for now
(to a degree)
(at least for this thread ;p)
MrS
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His question was about the trailers of this years E3, which is just that one we got. It had 0 GZ footage. I guess you could take from it what you will about the aftermath, but that's something we already knew would happen from the GDC trailer.
NealMcCauley
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Personally I think he might have multiple codenames, one for each area the game takes place in. They could be act titles like in mgs4 and reflect what Snake/Boss is feeling.
CreeperBlocks
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It's a mask, yo! (And yes, the base that becomes Outer Heaven, it seems.)
Wait what?.. ohhhhhhh Now I see it.. I feel dumb now..
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