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Extremely photogenic Wii Fit Trainer.
reposting the gifs I made:
so I just found this
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Do we have any gifs of Greninja's screen smash? Definitely the cutest one.Extremely photogenic Wii Fit Trainer.
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I know you didn't, I did. They're both equally silly arguments though. And Snake could be cut for reasons such as "too many third parties". Snake has absolutely nothing going for him that Squirtle and Ivysaur don't have as well. And differences you make between the two are completely arbitrary.I never said anything about hair color.
And I don't see the Pokémon Trainer Pokémon as comparable to Snake. If Squirtle and Ivysaur are cut (and mind you, I'm not necessarily convinced they are), it could be for other reasons such as "too many Pokémon," whereas cutting Snake would be dropping an entire franchise.
Ivysaur/Squirtle are not a 1:1 situation with Snake. Not at all.
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So that's "Series 1." It's been said in interviews the plan is to release an Amiibo for every fighter on the roster. In that case, assuming each series has about 14-15 fighters, who do you think will be in "Series 2?"
Maybe we'll see:
- Rosalina & Luma
- Bowser
- Luigi
- Ike
- Diddy Kong
- Toon Link
- Sheik
- ZSS
- Lucario
- Charizard
- Greninja
- Little Mac
- Palutena
- King Dedede
- Pikmin & Olimar
I think they might make us wait for the third-party reps.
It might also be they haven't shown Series 2 yet because unannounced vets or newcomers like Chrom, Shulk and Chorus Men could be mixed in.
Extremely photogenic Wii Fit Trainer.
reposting the gifs I made:
Do we have any gifs of Greninja's screen smash? Definitely the cutest one.
Do we have any gifs of ZSS's screen smash? Definitely the cutest one.
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So that's "Series 1." It's been said in interviews the plan is to release an Amiibo for every fighter on the roster. In that case, assuming each series has about 14-15 fighters, who do you think will be in "Series 2?"
Maybe we'll see:
- Rosalina & Luma
- Bowser
- Luigi
- Ike
- Diddy Kong
- Toon Link
- Sheik
- ZSS
- Lucario
- Charizard
- Greninja
- Little Mac
- Palutena
- King Dedede
- Pikmin & Olimar
I think they might make us wait for the third-party reps.
It might also be they haven't shown Series 2 yet because unannounced vets or newcomers like Chrom, Shulk and Chorus Men could be mixed in.
Again, Squirtle and Ivysaur have absolutely no more bearing on Snake's chances that they do Captain Falcon's or any other character. There's no reason to bring them up in this discussion whatsoever.I know you didn't, I did. They're both equally silly arguments though. And Snake could be cut for reasons such as "too many third parties". Snake has absolutely nothing going for him that Squirtle and Ivysaur don't have as well. And differences you make between the two are completely arbitrary.
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So that's "Series 1." It's been said in interviews the plan is to release an Amiibo for every fighter on the roster. In that case, assuming each series has about 14-15 fighters, who do you think will be in "Series 2?"
Maybe we'll see:
- Rosalina & Luma
- Bowser
- Luigi
- Ike
- Diddy Kong
- Toon Link
- Sheik
- ZSS
- Lucario
- Charizard
- Greninja
- Little Mac
- Palutena
- King Dedede
- Pikmin & Olimar
I think they might make us wait for the third-party reps.
It might also be they haven't shown Series 2 yet because unannounced vets or newcomers like Chrom, Shulk and Chorus Men could be mixed in.
Marth is a day 1 amiibo, rest I'll get eventually
I remember back when I was in middle school, Star Wars toys were popular, and stores didn't seem to have any qualms about stocking action figures of the weird side characters, like the lady with six boobs from Return of the Jedi. Maybe it'll be a similar situation here where they'll just stock them all and if some sell better than others, so be it.Is it confirmed that that is series 1? Seeing them all together makes me wonder what their overall strategy is for the Smash amiibos. Usually, I'd say it would be unwise to put all of the most popular characters in the first series. Most kids and their grandmas will be looking for Mario, Pikachu, Yoshi, etc. But Nintendo needs the first series to do well so stores will be willing to stock future amiibos.
I wonder if there's a good way for them to double dip on certain characters, even within the Smash series? Like, maybe they could put out an electrified Pikachu in series 2 that unlocks an exclusive color scheme or something. Otherwise, I don't think Walmart will be too thrilled about stocking, say, the third series, made up of Ice Climbers, Mr. Game & Watch, and ROB.
Maybe they'll do some of the less popular character Amiibos as store, web, or event exclusives.
But you did, that's what started this all the in the first place. You specifically stated that Snake is in a different situation than those two Pokemon, but he's not. They're both in the same situation. They both could be in, but they're both probably cut. There's absolutely no reason to expect one more over the other. Compare this to Captain Falcon, who is much more likely to be in the game than both of them because of his status as a Smash 64 veteran and because of the F-Zero assist trophy.Again, Squirtle and Ivysaur have absolutely no more bearing on Snake's chances that they do Captain Falcon's or any other character. There's no reason to bring them up in this discussion whatsoever.
Extremely photogenic Wii Fit Trainer.
reposting the gifs I made:
To be quite honest, some of us weren't too pleased with the current build of Smash 4. Hopefully they plan on addressing our issue with too many aerials having immense lag on landing.
The direction I see this game going is:
1) A few characters will have moves that probably don't lag as bad as others do upon landing.
2) Everyone would flock to said characters because they have more freedom to approach.
3) The few characters that have good approaches will be the only ones seen on stream which won't please spectators.
4) The less fans for a game there are, the more likely you won't see the game get support from leagues, teams, sponsors, players, and etc.
I remember back when I was in middle school, Star Wars toys were popular, and stores didn't seem to have any qualms about stocking action figures of the weird side characters, like the lady with six boobs from Return of the Jedi. Maybe it'll be a similar situation here where they'll just stock them all and if some sell better than others, so be it.
I do hope it's not difficult to obtain any given figure.
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So that's "Series 1." It's been said in interviews the plan is to release an Amiibo for every fighter on the roster. In that case, assuming each series has about 14-15 fighters, who do you think will be in "Series 2?"
Maybe we'll see:
- Rosalina & Luma
- Bowser
- Luigi
- Ike
- Diddy Kong
- Toon Link
- Sheik
- ZSS
- Lucario
- Charizard
- Greninja
- Little Mac
- Palutena
- King Dedede
- Pikmin & Olimar
I think they might make us wait for the third-party reps.
It might also be they haven't shown Series 2 yet because unannounced vets or newcomers like Chrom, Shulk and Chorus Men could be mixed in.
Extremely photogenic Wii Fit Trainer.
reposting the gifs I made:
I brought up Squirtle and Ivysaur in response to you. And again, they're really NOT comparable. Squirtle and Ivysaur were designed a certain way. For all we know, in Sakurai's eyes, they might be invalid once you break off Charizard. He might think Charizard works as a character but the other two only work as supplements in a team. It's hard to say what's up there because those three were in such a unique arrangement compared to the rest of the roster. And again, cutting Squirtle and Ivysaur doesn't eliminate an entire franchise and fanbase outright, meaning it's a much easier decision to make.But you did, that's what started this all the in the first place. You specifically stated that Snake is in a different situation than those two Pokemon, but he's not. They're both in the same situation. They both could be in, but they're both probably cut. There's absolutely no reason to expect one more over the other. Compare this to Captain Falcon, who is much more likely to be in the game than both of them because of his status as a Smash 64 veteran and because of the F-Zero assist trophy.
But you did, that's what started this all the in the first place. You specifically stated that Snake is in a different situation than those two Pokemon, but he's not. They're both in the same situation. They both could be in, but they're both probably cut. There's absolutely no reason to expect one more over the other. Compare this to Captain Falcon, who is much more likely to be in the game than both of them because of his status as a Smash 64 veteran and because of the F-Zero assist trophy.
I wonder why Sonic got that brief trailer for his return. Was it just because he was a third party, or was it because he had that game coming out around then?
Day one Amiibo is Kirby.
I mean, just look at him! (>°o°)>
True, but Star Wars toys usually mix in some popular characters with the weird six boobers. Like, they might do a series with Sixboob, Background extra 437, Luke in bass fishing gear, and battle damaged Darth Vader. They always find a way to sneak in some popular ones.
I'd think they'd do that for this too, but they'd probably need a way to differentiate the in-game functionality of "alt color Mario" and regular Mario.
Exactly, but he's made up his mind, so I'm not inclined to try and help him understand.He only said that essentially Snake was his own character in Brawl whereas Charizard, Ivysaur and Squirtle comprised a full unit under the name of Pokemon Trainer.
Really seems like you want to play a semantic game based entirely on my cannot prove or disprove quip.
I hadn't even thought about Ike's screen KO; and now I can't wait to see it.
...When can we reasonably expect to get some video of him before the 3DS version launch?
No you didn't... Go back and look at the conversation. You brought up Squirtle and Ivysaur first. And once again, you're using wild speculation as "evidence" for why Squirtle and Ivysaur can be seen as unlikely to return. And there are tons of fans of the two characters that would be alienated if they were removed. If you can honestly say those things, and then say that Snake isn't in a comparable situation, you're being a huge hypocrite. I'm not saying that the Pokemon directly influence Snakes chances of returning, I'm saying that both Snake and the Pokemon have the same chance of returning (very low). You can speculate both ways to figure out why one might be more likely than the other, but there's no information given to us by Sakurai to make us think so.I brought up Squirtle and Ivysaur in response to you. And again, they're really NOT comparable. Squirtle and Ivysaur were designed a certain way. For all we know, in Sakurai's eyes, they might be invalid once you break off Charizard. He might think Charizard works as a character but the other two only work as supplements in a team. It's hard to say what's up there because those three were in such a unique arrangement compared to the rest of the roster. And again, cutting Squirtle and Ivysaur doesn't eliminate an entire franchise and fanbase outright, meaning it's a much easier decision to make.
But again, this is so completely and utterly irrelevant to Snake... or Captain Falcon... or Falco or Wolf... or R.O.B... Or any of the unannounced vets.
Let's just agree to disagree.
But in the same post, he also said that makes Squirtle and Ivysaur less likely to return than Snake, high is completely ridiculous.He only said that essentially Snake was his own character in Brawl whereas Charizard, Ivysaur and Squirtle comprised a full unit under the name of Pokemon Trainer.
Really seems like you want to play a semantic game based entirely on my cannot prove or disprove quip.
Don't forget that the hypothetical Series 2 could include Captain Falcon, Megaman, Pac-Man, Charizard and Lucario. The entire Smash roster is iconic in some way; I don't think there's going to be much trouble padding out series with popular characters.
Not sure how far you're going back, but I'm referring to you bringing up the Squirtle and Ivysaur logic yesterday.No you didn't... Go back and look at the conversation. You brought up Squirtle and Ivysaur first. And once again, you're using wild speculation as "evidence" for why Squirtle and Ivysaur can be seen as unlikely to return. And there are tons of fans of the two characters that would be alienated if they were removed. If you can honestly say those things, and then say that Snake isn't in a comparable situation, you're being a huge hypocrite. I'm not saying that the Pokemon directly influence Snakes chances of returning, I'm saying that both Snake and the Pokemon have the same chance of returning (very low). You can speculate both ways to figure out why one might be more likely than the other, but there's no information given to us by Sakurai to make us think so.
If you're going around saying Snake could go either way, you can't then turn around and say the Pokemon are most likely gone. They're in the same situation.
Fox and Pit will be my first amiibos. Gotta start with my two favorite Nintendo ip.
But in the same post, he also said that makes Squirtle and Ivysaur less likely to return than Snake, high is completely ridiculous.
I'm talking about the last page. And you're wrong, I'd like to hear one legitimate reason why they're in different situation. You mention how originally being part of a combined character hurts the Pokemons chances. There is no reason to think this, you just made that up. There's never been a character that was cut because it was part of a combined character. You're just assuming that it means something for no reason at all. You could just as easily say "Snake is likely gone because he's a third party character". There's no past cut third party characters to back this up, and in fact Sonic returning suggests the very opposite. Just like ZSS and Charizard returning suggests the opposite for Squirtle and Ivysaur.Not sure how far you're going back, but I'm referring to you bringing up the Squirtle and Ivysaur logic yesterday.
Of course Squirtle and Ivysaur have fans. But if they're gone, Pokémon fans still have other characters. Cut Snake, and MGS fans have nothing.
And again, there's no evidence to suggest Snake is gone. He just hasn't been shown yet. We have literally nothing other than uncertainty.
But where the Pokémon are concerned, apples and oranges. They were originally part of a larger character. That absolutely could affect their standing once split apart. It's not wild speculation. What's wild speculation is saying Snake is gone when there's nothing to indicate such is the case.
They. Are. Not. Comparable.
I'm done having this conversation. You're a nice guy, but this is going in circles. I'm sure someone else will argue with you.
If you don't care, then why did you join the conversation in the first place?I honestly could care less about the argument you two are having. Honestly all the characters brought up in this argument including Ridley have impossible chances of not at least being a trophy.
Ha, those early reactions to Snake are great XDFor your joy, I dug up the first Brawl thread from when all people were hearing were rumours and leaks out of the roundtable
Same here, day one for both, I'm also considering buying a third one, maybe kirby or vilager, not sure.
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Pic of the day. Pac-Man's standard special move, Bonus Fruit. As you charge this move, the bonuses will change, and all of them have different characteristics and movement patterns when thrown. The bonuses cycle in the same order as in the original game, and the charge-up period doubles once you cycle beyond the orange.
You know who we need as an AT?
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The Black Knight from Fire Emblem. He should be a one hit KO, so it'd just be a game of keep away as long as he's out.
Hell, make him a stage boss for Colosseum.
It'd be especially funny if Snake does indeed get announced last, and right before launch, but then they inexplicably omit the "Kept you waiting" line.In the [UNCERTAIN PROBABLITY] event that Snake returns, I hope Sakurai makes him a hype trailer of some kind